st albans fox Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Interesting to see how sky (commentary team) and five live (commentary team) are defended by their employers .....making excuses which are simply wrong to justify the non var reversal Neville and savage - I can understand their natural pro yanited bias but surely the bbc five live football corespondent (John Murray) should be big enough to state that it’s just incorrect. Even this morning on talk sport, Brazil is trying to justify it .....but again, he has ingrained yanited bias and is probably still three sheets to the wind ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkie Bennett Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 57 minutes ago, turkish14 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53357841 At least the premier league are admitting they got decisions wrong. however I’d love to know what they will do about it, If anything. Also when bad decisions are made, then questioned more in the media via the managers comments, it rightly gets some response by the premier league. But when managers don’t kick up as much of a fuss, despite bad decisions it doesn’t. Like our De bruyne handball v Man City, which wasn’t given. It pisses me off it’s not automatically raised and highlighted by the PL post match as a mistake. It just gets smoother over and forgotten about. They'll do nothing of course. Fernandes put his studs into Konsa's leg. Definitely a foul and likely a sending-off offence. United benefitted not only from the incorrect penalty decision, but also Fernandes's continued presence on the pitch. Additionally they benefit from his availability for the next three matches. It's always smoothed over that one wrong decision can have consequences beyond the incident itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 1 hour ago, turkish14 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53357841 At least the premier league are admitting they got decisions wrong. however I’d love to know what they will do about it, If anything. Also when bad decisions are made, then questioned more in the media via the managers comments, it rightly gets some response by the premier league. But when managers don’t kick up as much of a fuss, despite bad decisions it doesn’t. Like our De bruyne handball v Man City, which wasn’t given. It pisses me off it’s not automatically raised and highlighted by the PL post match as a mistake. It just gets smoother over and forgotten about. Simple solution, punish refs/var twats that get decisions blatantly wrong. Right now they sit there making decisions with impunity that can cost clubs tens of millions of pounds. Villa were the better team before that non-penalty, it changed the entire game. That could be 3 points that send villa down and send utd to champions league. They've admitted it's wrong but the people who got it so wrong get away with it. It's horseshit. If I **** up my job I'd get punished, and mine certainly wouldn't have ramifications in the millions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 They've also said Kane's decision was incorrect too. Bad day at the (VAR) office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 (edited) In fact it should've been given as a foul on Konsa for Fernandes basically standing on his ankle. Makes it even worse. 3 prime examples why VAR rules are being taken away from us. Edited 10 July 2020 by UniFox21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 The fact that they've admitted that they made three mistakes last night makes me even more angry that they wouldn't admit this mistake: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Fernandes has a red card, let alone a pen!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopy87 Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 With all the decisions that have gone against the likes of us, Sheff Utd and Wolves (the toe at Spurs for Sheff Utd, the 5 minute check for handball at Everton against us, not to mention the countless penalties we should've had, Wolves against us at Molineux) and the ridiculous decisions that the perceived elite get in their favor, you are not convincing me otherwise that match fixing isn't taking place. There's been too many recently and its really starting to kill my love for the game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Even if there isn't corruption, there is some clear favoritism for the certain teams. Prime example was the handballs against Man City, one clear one for us... not given. One clear one for them... given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Would also like to know what part of Fernandes was hurt. Grabs his shin instantly after he trod on Konsa's yet the referee fell for it. So many players across the world do it obviously. Some more than others and some worse than others. He was of course totally fine to take the penalty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sol thewall Bamba Posted 10 July 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 10 July 2020 12 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Even if there isn't corruption, there is some clear favoritism for the certain teams. Prime example was the handballs against Man City, one clear one for us... not given. One clear one for them... given. Favouritism in sporting competition is corruption though. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Favouritism in sporting competition is corruption though. I was literally about to post the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Spurs have been hard done by this season by decisions. They've always been the smallest out of the Sky 'big 6' though so that doesnt surprise me. Man U and Liverpool are by far the biggest benefactors of favourable decisions including games not involving them that might have impact on thwir position , eg , our penalty shout v Brighton and Sheff Utd goal that should have stood v Villa. That Man U penalty is beyond belief, particularly as Villa were doing alright until then so it changed the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 7 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Favouritism in sporting competition is corruption though. Don't disagree! I was trying to say, I don't think its intentional, maybe with the way football has gone, and with all media coverage focusing on the so called 'bigger' sides, refs feel they'd be under more scrutiny if they don't give calls for them? I don't know. Either way it's shit and it stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Lisemore Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 We saw it for years at Old Trafford to be fair, this has been going on for a long time and with more and more money in the game it'll carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Infuriates me how Savage's response to anyone arguing with him when he has no real support of his argument is "it's a game of opinions, everyone's entitled to one". Instead of actually listening to the arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterseddon Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 I remember when people were saying we need VAR to compensate for refereeing bias towards the bigger clubs. A lot of these same people are now complaining that, erm...VAR is biased towards the bigger clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 I don’t think there is corruption as such, but it’s clear that the officials are siding with the big sides to an alarming level. I personally put it down to the the media’s obsession with the big clubs. The refs know that if they give a contentious decision against a big club that the media will talk about it for days. That must subconsciously play on their minds. Prime example is Tuesday night. Sky did nothing else but talk about Arsenal for the entire match and then discussed in great detail two VAR calls (both correct) that went against Arsenal and a potential red card (never in a million years) against Vardy. Meanwhile we have a perfectly good goal disallowed and it’s not even shown as a replay at HT or FT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 Ole is such a fraud. Most managers would get results with their front 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 1 minute ago, leicesterseddon said: I remember when people were saying we need VAR to compensate for refereeing bias towards the bigger clubs. A lot of these same people are now complaining that, erm...VAR is biased towards the bigger clubs. It's the same officials running VAR as were officiating the games prior to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 10 hours ago, oxtonfox said: I think the Everton loss is looking very costly - having seen highlights tonight I think we may regret that. Hoping Mr Hassenheutel will do us a favour when they play United. I think the failing to defend the corner vs Watford in the dying seconds is more costly. Hold on there and those 2 extra points would mean we are still 3 ahead with a better (although ever decreasing goal difference) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMike Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 1 hour ago, snoopy87 said: With all the decisions that have gone against the likes of us, Sheff Utd and Wolves (the toe at Spurs for Sheff Utd, the 5 minute check for handball at Everton against us, not to mention the countless penalties we should've had, Wolves against us at Molineux) and the ridiculous decisions that the perceived elite get in their favor, you are not convincing me otherwise that match fixing isn't taking place. There's been too many recently and its really starting to kill my love for the game. Not sure about us, but Wolves and, most notably, Sheff U have had some abysmal decisions made against them. I'm afraid we can't blame VAR for our slide out of CL places - our dire form since December has seen to that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 To compound it the media will be raving about Fernandes in his next game and telling us how many goals and assists he has - forgetting that the last penalty (at least) wasn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 5 minutes ago, SuperMike said: Not sure about us, but Wolves and, most notably, Sheff U have had some abysmal decisions made against them. I'm afraid we can't blame VAR for our slide out of CL places - our dire form since December has seen to that!! Our biggest pain has been handball decisions being drawn from a hat rather than actually using rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 10 July 2020 Share Posted 10 July 2020 9 minutes ago, FIF said: To compound it the media will be raving about Fernandes in his next game and telling us how many goals and assists he has - forgetting that the last penalty (at least) wasn't one. How many times was he called "clever" for that penalty last night? If that had been a player who is less popular currently they would be labelled as a cheat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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