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The VAR thread

By DJ Barry Hammond, in Leicester City Forum

What are your thoughts on VAR?  

679 members have voted

  1. 1. What are your thoughts on VAR?

    • Love it, all for it, fantastic introduction to football
      109
    • Hate it, games gone
      236
    • Somewhere in between
      334

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sacreblueits442

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4 minutes ago, FantasticMrFox&Son said:

And Fred pushes Azpilicueta into Williams, and Azpilicueta is punished ??

These guys are just being exposed as incompetent, or worse, bent.

... bent!! 

I am sure the refs had a meeting and decided to close ranks. Not viewing the monitor is beyond belief, a total abdication of their duties, it would be interesting if we could get rid of this lot and draft in foreign referees who will take the opportunity to review a call and not shrug their shoulder saying "it's not my decision"....! 

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Phube

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12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Tonight has shown how the var (there are three I think) are still incapable of giving correct decisions - so what’s the point in having it ??


Still run by the same refs making bad calls on the pitch.

As much as every moans about the “armpit offsides” at least it’s performed by impartial analysts not incompetent refs!

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oadby.fox

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I totally agree, it’s being used in a totally arbitrary and inconsistent manner.

 

They are getting things wrong or making inconsistent calls that pretty much everyone else can see. The refs are supposed to individuals who have spent a large chunk of their lives officiating games, people who have trained solely to ref games and who once working in the prem, are considered to be the “cream of the crop”.

 

If anything, the introduction of VAR has only served to highlight just how poor the refereeing standards are in this country. The narrative of blame has often shifted to the technology and has worked as a smokescreen for just how inept some of these bozos are. I still don’t know why the refs on the pitch aren’t using the monitors for themselves and god knows what the video assistants are actually getting up to. Part of me thinks they are just falling asleep at the monitor after too many pints.

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Fox92

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It’s not VAR that is the issue, it’s the referees. If referees are shit, and some really are, why would giving them a screen make them any better? They’ll still make shit decisions but sit behind VAR doing it.

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FantasticMrFox&Son

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A "top" PL referee will earn around £80,000 a YEAR.

A YEAR.

Football is awash with money.

UEFA under Blatter and Platini, CORRUPT.

FIFA and World Cup Allocation, Qatar, CORRUPT.

Agents, CORRUPT.

So you think ref's will settle for less than half a week's wages IN A YEAR ??

The SPORT IS CORRUPT from top to top and the bottom are teams like Bury, left to rot.

 

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yorkie1999

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13 minutes ago, oadby.fox said:

I totally agree, it’s being used in a totally arbitrary and inconsistent manner.

 

They are getting things wrong or making inconsistent calls that pretty much everyone else can see. The refs are supposed to individuals who have spent a large chunk of their lives officiating games, people who have trained solely to ref games and who once working in the prem, are considered to be the “cream of the crop”.

 

If anything, the introduction of VAR has only served to highlight just how poor the refereeing standards are in this country. The narrative of blame has often shifted to the technology and has worked as a smokescreen for just how inept some of these bozos are. I still don’t know why the refs on the pitch aren’t using the monitors for themselves and god knows what the video assistants are actually getting up to. Part of me thinks they are just falling asleep at the monitor after too many pints.

Thing is, it’s very easy to sit in front of a monitor 100 miles away from a game, it’s a bit different when there’s 22 players and 30-40000 fans calling you a willy puller and you have to make a decision in a split second, not sticking up for refs like, but someone’s got to officiate the game.

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worth_the_wait

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On 16/02/2020 at 22:04, pleatout said:

Arms/hands dont count.  Head, torso and legs.  Only parts of the body that you can play the ball with.  It's always been like that from sunday league to world cup final.

 

It hasn't always been like that.

For the first 100 or so years, the rule book used to just talk about the player being nearer the opponents goal line etc.

It's only been in the last few years with camera angles and arificial lines drawn across the pitch, that they started to refine it to parts of the body.

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ozleicester

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On 15/02/2020 at 05:37, Super_horns said:

It's all pot luck really - as it was before !

Just now we get the flow of the game ruined and eternal pundit bullshit post game

 

 

7 hours ago, st albans fox said:

We need VAR to decide if this thread should be merged with the other one .......

 

the decision is ............

 

 

 

we need a third and will be best of three !

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Aus Fox

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I’ve said for a long time, if this is ever going to work we need to have trained professional running the VAR not referees, but people trained in the laws of the game, who understand context and are confident in over ruling referees.

Trained professionals who focus all of their professional learning on reviewing incidents that have come up this season, working with former professionals who understand moments in the game and how situations transpire.

We then have this small group on VAR every week. The same 10 people in the box for every game. People who have scheduled time together to meet and peer review each other’s performance and understanding.

The only way to get consistency. And at the end of the day good decision or bad that’s all we as supporters want consistency!

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David Hankey

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I wonder just how "independent" these VAR officials are. Every Club in the EPL has fallen foul of their "decisions" this season and all it has lead to is anger and dissatisfaction. How can we be sure these people haven't a deep seated vendetta against a particular Club, something that may have happened years ago, we can't. I suppose the fact is that we're all in the same boat and to some extent that makes it a level playing field but it certainly isn't good for the game.

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jmono84

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Tbh by Maguire it makes sense, he was clattered to start with and you could argue he thought the player was going to fall on him so would stick your leg out to prevent. I haven’t seen the Son red but I feel Maguire has a solid enough reason for what happened there.

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Sly

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The fact that people are questioning if referees are subsidising their wage with “Illegal” additional payments, purely illustrates we have an officiating problem. 
 

I personally don’t believe officials are doing this. It’s just highlighting the issues that we have. 

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AKCJ

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2 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

So Maguire kicking someone is not a red card and Fred pushing Azpilicueta into someone is a foul by Azpilicueta?? 

No.

 

Azpilicueta was barely touched. He then went and put two arms into Williams' back to shove him to the floor. Absolutely blatant foul.

 

Maguire's "kick" was an instinct because he thought the lad was going to fall on him. Not a red card. Common sense prevailed. 

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davieG

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11 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Personally thought VAR got everything right tonight.

 

15 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

So Maguire kicking someone is not a red card and Fred pushing Azpilicueta into someone is a foul by Azpilicueta?? 

 

10 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

No.

 

Azpilicueta was barely touched. He then went and put two arms into Williams' back to shove him to the floor. Absolutely blatant foul.

 

Maguire's "kick" was an instinct because he thought the lad was going to fall on him. Not a red card. Common sense prevailed. 

.......and that sums up the difficulties with refereeing/VAR

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