South Shire Fox Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 4 hours ago, pmcla26 said: It’s not missing that part out though, yes he’s won the league at Chelsea and a Europa League as well - but after that title winning season he shown himself as the best defensive midfielder of his generation. He could’ve gone to Juventus, Real, Barca... a club with prestige, not Chelsea, and cemented himself as a legend within the game. He’s not even been Chelsea’s best midfielder this season, the point I’m trying to make from the beginning in booing him is as his greed in summer 2016 has led to his career being quite underwhelming for what it could’ve and should’ve been. You can call it bitterness or maybe it’s just not respecting a decision that was made as he should’ve been so much more? I wouldn’t have cared if he’d gone to one of the aforementioned teams that summer, would’ve been quite nice for a Leicester player to go on to be a superstar but he’s not really done it since 2017 has he? Ey? The guy would literally walk into every starting 11 in the world, hes one of the best dm midfielders there is. Its only because he plays with world class players for France and is played out of position for Chelsea to fit into their style that he doesnt stand out as much as he did imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddybad Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, foxile5 said: Oh yeah no doubt. But they'd have been interested the year after. It was highly disappointing. And all this 'humble' stuff really serves to highlight that action as highly unhumble. It's a job. He isn't a City fan. If you got offered more money to work in a company with more prestige that would likely see you win other awards you'd jump at it, the same as any of us. Edited 30 April 2020 by Toddybad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 4 hours ago, foxile5 said: There wasn't 'literally nothing' he could achieve. He literally could've helped us into our first champions league campaign which would've been his first too. He literally couldn't have achieved that and could've have done that with Chelsea that year. If Kante had stayed we would have won the Champions League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 19 minutes ago, Toddybad said: It's a job. He isn't a City fan. If you got offered more money to work in a company with more prestige that would likely see you win other awards you'd jump at it, the same as any of us. You're precisely right. It just isn't humble to have a mercenary attitude. I entirely understand his moving. It just isn't in keeping with the humble narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 For the record I harbor no ill will towards N'Golo. One of the best I've ever seen on a pitch. And I've seen some players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddybad Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 1 hour ago, foxile5 said: You're precisely right. It just isn't humble to have a mercenary attitude. I entirely understand his moving. It just isn't in keeping with the humble narrative. That isn't mercenary. Think you're running out of road with your argument tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 Kante was only ever using us as a stepping stone, lucky to have got the year we did from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 8 hours ago, Toddybad said: Ok, there's an argument to be had about 1/2 years dependent on what offers he had, but my point really was that I don't think it's unfair for him to feel he wasted part of his career. it could be argued that his first year at Man City was wasted as he hardly ever played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody2028 Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 2 hours ago, pmcla26 said: Not even been Chelsea’s best midfielder this year ... Hasn’t been played in the right position since they won the league (no coincidence in that?) and pretty sure he’s been injured for a good part of that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 30 April 2020 Share Posted 30 April 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Toddybad said: It's a job. He isn't a City fan. If you got offered more money to work in a company with more prestige that would likely see you win other awards you'd jump at it, the same as any of us. Absolutely. 5 hours ago, foxile5 said: You're precisely right. It just isn't humble to have a mercenary attitude. I entirely understand his moving. It just isn't in keeping with the humble narrative. I suspect that any mercenary attitudes were those of agents involved. Edited 30 April 2020 by FoyleFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 1 May 2020 Share Posted 1 May 2020 5 hours ago, foxile5 said: You're precisely right. It just isn't humble to have a mercenary attitude. I entirely understand his moving. It just isn't in keeping with the humble narrative. ...I really do not believe you understand the reason why he left, or your comprehension for his decision, is based solely on anger and retribution!!!! Your understanding has been debated and you have not accepted any reasoning that satisfies your prejudgement. The only answer is that you have an agenda and no amount of debate or reasoning will move you from the position you hold. Should any player choose to leave this team, then I am disappointed, like many others on here but I would not boo any player on their return, just hope they have a poor game and we show them what they had left behind. You have to accept, some players are so career orientated, that they are always looking to progress their career, sometime to the detriment,of the suitability of the next move.Some players stay at a club, with family and stability come satisfaction and the understanding of what is a balance for their life and career. Kante's move was a question for him, he had his reason and departed unexpectedly. Could he have helped us to go any further in the Champions League, the answer is no, could he have elevated us in the league, perhaps, but things went very bad very quickly after the league triumph. We had him for a season and he helped us to achieve the improbable, it sounds like you would rather he had not come to us, and then you would not have to suffer the loss of his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 1 May 2020 Share Posted 1 May 2020 4 hours ago, pmcla26 said: Or maybe he’s just not as good as he used to be? ...you just won't let it go, will you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 3 May 2020 Share Posted 3 May 2020 Imagine we sell Gray and bring in Lingard. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so annoyed by a transfer speculation story. I’d be gutted if we signed him. Everything that’s wrong about football in a crap little package 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 3 May 2020 Share Posted 3 May 2020 On 30/04/2020 at 15:18, ealingfox said: He wasted 1 year at best. Playing in the Champions League with us was not a waste of his career even if the awful league season was a waste of his time. Allegedly nobody came in for him in the summer if 2016 anyway. That and the fact that some may have thought they could just roll us over and buy him on the cheap. That could have sent out the wrong signal for our future. We got a reasonable fee in the end. It was about what was best for the club not the player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 3 May 2020 Share Posted 3 May 2020 We have surpassed Demarai simple as that he’s not a bad player but nowhere near the level we are now wouldn’t look bad at a team like Southampton or Bournemouth. If we get 10-15m I think that’s a fair price 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPalace.com Posted 3 May 2020 Share Posted 3 May 2020 24 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: We have surpassed Demarai simple as that he’s not a bad player but nowhere near the level we are now wouldn’t look bad at a team like Southampton or Bournemouth. If we get 10-15m I think that’s a fair price He worth £20 milllion at least ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod hero Posted 3 May 2020 Share Posted 3 May 2020 1 minute ago, FoxyPalace.com said: He worth £20 milllion at least ! Not in the Post Rona Market I don’t think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPalace.com Posted 3 May 2020 Share Posted 3 May 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mod hero said: Not in the Post Rona Market I don’t think Clubs will be spending still, we shall see Edited 3 May 2020 by FoxyPalace.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 4 May 2020 Share Posted 4 May 2020 20 hours ago, FoxyPalace.com said: He worth £20 milllion at least ! He's not. He really isn't. Perez is barely worth £20 million. There are a dime a dozen wingers like Gray. Each club in the PL has one, some have two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 4 May 2020 Share Posted 4 May 2020 15 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said: He's not. He really isn't. Perez is barely worth £20 million. There are a dime a dozen wingers like Gray. Each club in the PL has one, some have two. Maddison - this season - 28 apps, 6 goals 3 assists - cost £23m, current value £70-100m (according to CIES) Perez - this season - 25 apps, 7 goals 4 assists - cost £30m, current value ?? Perez is well worth £30m imo. Gray - last 5 seasons combined - 125 apps, 9 goals 7 assists - cost £6m, current value ?? Given he’s got one year left on his contract, we’d be lucky to get £10m, we might get back what we paid for him though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Farley Posted 4 May 2020 Share Posted 4 May 2020 5 minutes ago, brucey said: Maddison - this season - 28 apps, 6 goals 3 assists - cost £23m, current value £70-100m (according to CIES) Perez - this season - 25 apps, 7 goals 4 assists - cost £30m, current value ?? Perez is well worth £30m imo. Gray - last 5 seasons combined - 125 apps, 9 goals 7 assists - cost £6m, current value ?? Given he’s got one year left on his contract, we’d be lucky to get £10m, we might get back what we paid for him though. And to think there were rumours Bournemouth wanted to spend £25m on him a few seasons back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain King Posted 4 May 2020 Share Posted 4 May 2020 7 minutes ago, brucey said: Maddison - this season - 28 apps, 6 goals 3 assists - cost £23m, current value £70-100m (according to CIES) Perez - this season - 25 apps, 7 goals 4 assists - cost £30m, current value ?? Perez is well worth £30m imo. Gray - last 5 seasons combined - 125 apps, 9 goals 7 assists - cost £6m, current value ?? Given he’s got one year left on his contract, we’d be lucky to get £10m, we might get back what we paid for him though. Thought he cost £3m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 4 May 2020 Share Posted 4 May 2020 1 hour ago, Bob Farley said: And to think there were rumours Bournemouth wanted to spend £25m on him a few seasons back. ...the price will be there abouts!!! Our frustration is not the same as the market outside of our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody2028 Posted 4 May 2020 Share Posted 4 May 2020 1 hour ago, Bob Farley said: And to think there were rumours Bournemouth wanted to spend £25m on him a few seasons back. That was before they scouted him then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 5 May 2020 Share Posted 5 May 2020 Kante isn't a holding midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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