Beechey Posted 20 April 2020 Share Posted 20 April 2020 8 minutes ago, Angus Scott said: Why does everyone want to get rid of him? He may go to another club & fulfil his potential & then everybody will be saying we should have kept him. As long as he is not causing problems behind the scenes ( no evidence of that as far as I'm aware) then keep him, he is a good squad member. For some reason everyone seems to be on his back, perhaps if he got some encouragement from the crowd it may help him. There is no doubting that he has more ability than certain other members of our squad, but people think they are marvellous Because he's entering his final year of his contract here. If we don't choose to sell him, we won't get money for him, so what's the point if he plays as little as this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 20 April 2020 Share Posted 20 April 2020 10 minutes ago, Angus Scott said: Why does everyone want to get rid of him? He may go to another club & fulfil his potential & then everybody will be saying we should have kept him. As long as he is not causing problems behind the scenes ( no evidence of that as far as I'm aware) then keep him, he is a good squad member. For some reason everyone seems to be on his back, perhaps if he got some encouragement from the crowd it may help him. There is no doubting that he has more ability than certain other members of our squad, but people think they are marvellous He's played under 4 different managers here and not made the breakthrough. If he doesn't play regularly he's not going to improve. Best for all parties that he moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Scott Posted 20 April 2020 Share Posted 20 April 2020 We don't need the money & after the virus there is no telling that we would get a decent price anyway. Plenty of other players with only 1 year left so are we going to get rid of them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 20 April 2020 Share Posted 20 April 2020 12 minutes ago, Angus Scott said: We don't need the money & after the virus there is no telling that we would get a decent price anyway. Plenty of other players with only 1 year left so are we going to get rid of them too Depends if they have a decent market value and if they’ll be worthy of a squad place next season. Keeping Gray because he ‘might’ fulfil his potential elsewhere would be a poor reason. Agree about the price in the current climate though, who knows what the future holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W88DY Posted 20 April 2020 Share Posted 20 April 2020 The bottom line is that Demarai Gray has not improved as a player over the last 4 years, he has been given the chance to shine on many occasions and not took them really!! Championship player at best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 20 April 2020 Share Posted 20 April 2020 2 hours ago, W88DY said: The bottom line is that Demarai Gray has not improved as a player over the last 4 years, he has been given the chance to shine on many occasions and not took them really!! Championship player at best! Exactly this. We've been waiting 4 years for him to fulfil his potential, every season we've waited for the step up and very little has happened unfortunately. A succession of managers have tried but to no avail. The lad undoubtedly has talent but is so inconsistent, the next level alludes him. If we received a decent offer I'd sell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan LCFC Posted 21 April 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 21 April 2020 Simply sell this summer for about £15mil if we can get it. I think someone will chance it at that price. I'm not scared at all he'll prove us wrong. He's had long enough. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 I can see him going somewhere like West Ham . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshbyBlue Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 Watched Harvey Barnes at Fleetwood in the cup a few years back and thought he was out of his depth. Went on loan to Mk Don's ,Barnsley and West Brom and now a regular starter for us perhaps this is what Gray needed to do.I find gray frustrating got some magic at times but a lazy player also.15mill will be about right sort of money so I would let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddybad Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 17 hours ago, pmcla26 said: July 2021 End of this season then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddybad Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 1 hour ago, AshbyBlue said: Watched Harvey Barnes at Fleetwood in the cup a few years back and thought he was out of his depth. Went on loan to Mk Don's ,Barnsley and West Brom and now a regular starter for us perhaps this is what Gray needed to do.I find gray frustrating got some magic at times but a lazy player also.15mill will be about right sort of money so I would let him go. Maybe a loan in the championship is exactly what was needed a year or two ago, that's a good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 I think when Gray came to us, you could see the talent when he would take a man on and generally use his pace muddled with a little trickery to beat a man, and then would either shoot or pass to someone in a better position. When Mahrez left, a lot of us thought that Gray would soften that blow, but I think Gray has tried to change his game to give us what Mahrez had. He prioritised skill over pace which is not his most valuable asset. So many times he slows the play down, in trying to show off his flamboyance. Even this season, he has looked good at moments where he does things quickly with that run in behind and goal against West ham or the one two with Vardy against Palace which resulted in a goal. Simple football but really effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 39 minutes ago, shailen said: I think when Gray came to us, you could see the talent when he would take a man on and generally use his pace muddled with a little trickery to beat a man, and then would either shoot or pass to someone in a better position. When Mahrez left, a lot of us thought that Gray would soften that blow, but I think Gray has tried to change his game to give us what Mahrez had. He prioritised skill over pace which is not his most valuable asset. So many times he slows the play down, in trying to show off his flamboyance. Even this season, he has looked good at moments where he does things quickly with that run in behind and goal against West ham or the one two with Vardy against Palace which resulted in a goal. Simple football but really effective. Good post. I think he’s a good player, but ultimately I’m not sure Brendan does, so that will be that. I think he gets some unnecessary stick on here. When you look back at a lot of our good play on highlights etc, I was surprised how much involvement Gray had in those moments. I personally would keep him, and give him more game time. Him and Barnes on either side of Vardy, hasn’t been tried enough imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 13:54, dayday said: That would be Gareth Williams, came from Forest, that’s probably why he was crap Like that Wes Morgan chap, we'll never win anythng with an ex Forest player in the team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 2 hours ago, AshbyBlue said: Watched Harvey Barnes at Fleetwood in the cup a few years back and thought he was out of his depth. Went on loan to Mk Don's ,Barnsley and West Brom and now a regular starter for us perhaps this is what Gray needed to do.I find gray frustrating got some magic at times but a lazy player also.15mill will be about right sort of money so I would let him go. It's certainly what we should have done. He should never have spent that 6 months with us on the bench when we won the league. We should have bought him and then shipped him off to Birmingham for the rest of the season. The following season he should have spent it at a top Championship side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W88DY Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 15 hours ago, FoyleFox said: Exactly this. We've been waiting 4 years for him to fulfil his potential, every season we've waited for the step up and very little has happened unfortunately. A succession of managers have tried but to no avail. The lad undoubtedly has talent but is so inconsistent, the next level alludes him. If we received a decent offer I'd sell. I couldn`t agree more !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummieFOX Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 Completely baffled why anyone would want to keep him. Doesn't score, doesn't create, doesn't improve. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 ...watched him in the cup game against Birmingham and he started off ok!! He was making some good runs but no one was looking to find him and he stopped making the runs and started to drifted out of the game. Now he has a decision to make, drop a little to help the midfield or hold position as instructed and hope someone can find him and put him in space.Well no one is finding him with any incisive passes or the opportunity to take a defender on, one on one was not happening. So what should he do!!!! Well he could hold his position and change the way he plays, by playing one touch passes to the midfield and forwards and being on the move, dragging defenders out of position. Attempting to get behind defenses using his technical abilities and quick feet. Basically changing the way he sees the game. We have no idea how he has been coached, with kid gloves or the use of "the big stick". I don't think the previous coaching regimes were a "big stick" advocates and I suspect he has been nurtured, it has not helped him and repeating the same process will only bring the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue ROI Posted 21 April 2020 Share Posted 21 April 2020 (edited) On 20/04/2020 at 20:22, Angus Scott said: Why does everyone want to get rid of him? He may go to another club & fulfil his potential & then everybody will be saying we should have kept him. As long as he is not causing problems behind the scenes ( no evidence of that as far as I'm aware) then keep him, he is a good squad member. For some reason everyone seems to be on his back, perhaps if he got some encouragement from the crowd it may help him. There is no doubting that he has more ability than certain other members of our squad, but people think they are marvellous He might perform better at another club. He hasn't been a consistent performer for us.That's what counts. If he performs well at another club so be it.Much rather that than not playing well with us. If we got another player in who succeeds then happy days. Edited 21 April 2020 by Blue ROI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 22 April 2020 Share Posted 22 April 2020 He isnt intelligent enough full stop. He has raw pace and a small amount of skill, but no brain to deliver the final ball or make good decisions. He can probably do a job Championship or Premier League relegation battle, that's the limit. Just to put it into perspective the lad nearly got his head chopped off by a helicopter rotor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted 22 April 2020 Share Posted 22 April 2020 He's Championship standard and his stats back that up. Not good enough and never will be for our current level. Best for both parties if he moves on - wish him all the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 26 April 2020 Share Posted 26 April 2020 Unfollowed every LCFC player on instagram. Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 26 April 2020 Share Posted 26 April 2020 Just now, Dan LCFC said: Unfollowed every LCFC player on instagram. Hmmm.... R u sure? That’s a very odd thing to do with the season potentially having months to go ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 26 April 2020 Share Posted 26 April 2020 What a guy, his services to entertainment on this shit Sunday night are second to non. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 26 April 2020 Share Posted 26 April 2020 Interesting. Wonder what's been said or done by him or to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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