Timothy Castagne

[RowlattsFox]

Small sample size admittedly, well 1 game in fact, but Justin and Barnes worked well together that night. Barnes doesn't need an over lapping full back all the time, he needs space to knock and run. Ricardo on one side where we tend to have more inverted wide men and someome more steady on the left might work well. 

[4everfox]

5 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

We also had a class left back. That's something we don't have right now.

 

People are "bitching and moaning" because we haven't signed a Chilwell replacement. That's the point.

 

If Castagne was as good as he is on the right but on the left then nobody would complain. He'd fill a hole for two years until Thomas is ready.

 

Instead we've signed a right wing back that can occasionally play at left wing back. I struggle to see where he starts in the team. We all saw how much of an utter disaster the 5 at the back spell was last season.

 

If we went and got a specialist left back to replace Chilwell then there wouldn't be a problem whatsoever. 

 

Do you not think it's ridiculous to go and spend 24m on a wing back when we don't currently have any option but to play a flat back 4?

Marc Albrighton was a specialist right winger before we signed him and played him on the left, turned out ok for him. 

[Guest Markyblue]

20 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Yeah thank god we got a third choice right back in for 24m. 

If he is third choice right back, the good news is 1 we are loaded, 2 strength in depth which many people moan about, so all good innit?

[brucey]

I don’t see this guy as the Chilwell replacement, rather more of a Ricardo replacement.
If we don’t sign anyone else this window, Justin will be the Chilwell replacement.

[foxfanazer]

Just now, brucey said:

I don’t see this guy as the Chilwell replacement, rather more of a Ricardo replacement.
If we don’t sign anyone else this window, Justin will be the Chilwell replacement.

Worrying if that's the case

[Pliskin]

I can't see what the issue is. You can either play left back or you can't, and he can.... What is the issue? Just because right peg is stronger than his left? He's an established international player who is flexible. It is a win win. 

[RowlattsFox]

Amazing how much better Chilwell becomes in people's minds when we sign a "replacement"

[lcfcell]

1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

I can't see what the issue is. You can either play left back or you can't, and he can.... What is the issue? Just because right peg is stronger than his left? He's an established international player who is flexible. It is a win win. 

All the tweets i’ve seen from Atalanta fans say he’s comfortable on both sides. plus the people crying have probably never seen him

[honeybradger]

It's done now, not the signing some of us hoped for but no point in complaining now until we see him on the pitch for us.

[Steve Earle]

9 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

That sounds very plausible indeed.

 

Only thing I would say is that you might see Albrighton start as LWB. He played there a few times post lockdown and was pretty good. Or even Albrighton as RWB and Castagne as LWB, etc. With European games we'll have a lot of fixtures, so having two sets of wingbacks plus cover isn't outlandish at all. JJ looked good as a third CB as well with his pace. I could see him playing all three roles over time!

 

As for Ricky P, you couldn't begrudge him a move could you? He's twice the player Maguire or Chilwell will ever be and genuienly should be playing for a team competing for the top trophies. Soyuncu and Ndidi will probably go that way too eventually.

 

 

Thanks @StriderHiryu, as usual you make good points, though I’m afraid I have to disagree with you about Albrighton! A decent 4th/5th choice wide midfield player, but not a wing back for me in a million years.

 

Ricky? Don’t want to lose him, but if he recovers his pre-injury form & fitness, he’s too good for us, isn’t he? He’s the second best RB in our league & surely one of the best half dozen in Europe.

 

Sadly, I think TC’s signing tells us it’s Ricky leaving next summer. On a positive note, it also suggests we can look forward to at least two more seasons of Wilf, Cags & Madders!

[The_77]

7 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

I am not doubting he's a good player, like I say, I'm not unhappy to sign him - having read Fancasts recent report on the potential replacement options for him I thought he appeared the most likely given his contract situation.

 

My gripe is that you've got him not important enough to Atalanta for them to not let him run his contract down, and there are questions about the position he actually fits in most.

 

I think when both of those things are considered, we've paid a bit too much for him.

 

I'll say this once and I'll likely refer back to it when it gets thrown at me again later in the window - I'm aware it's not my money, but getting the most for your money is imperative for a club like us progressing to the top. I personally wouldn't have gone over £12mil.

Look, he’s not the slickest dribbler around but he’s really solid defensively and will help us play with multiple setups, which is perfect as Rodgers loves changing a formation even more than he loves slipping in a humble brag in every interview. 
 

Seems like the fee might be a couple mil too high but I doubt we would want him to go for any less than that if he were our player. 

[StanSP]

Some right drama queens on here these days. Some people just never satisfied. 

[StriderHiryu]

6 minutes ago, Beechey said:

 

More people should watch this video! There are plenty of clips of him playing on the left hand side, crossing it with both left and right feet and attacking the ball and scoring with headers. His delivery and decision making seem better than Chilwell's, though it remains to be seen if he has the same engine as Ben had some of the best sprinting stats in the division. 

 

It will also be interesting to see who we sign next.Perhaps we will still go for an out and out left back if there is good value out there?

[StriderHiryu]

1 minute ago, Steve Earle said:

Thanks @StriderHiryu, as usual you make good points, though I’m afraid I have to disagree with you about Albrighton! A decent 4th/5th choice wide midfield player, but not a wing back for me in a million years.

 

Ricky? Don’t want to lose him, but if he recovers his pre-injury form & fitness, he’s too good for us, isn’t he? He’s the second best RB in our league & surely one of the best half dozen in Europe.

 

Sadly, I think TC’s signing tells us it’s Ricky leaving next summer. On a positive note, it also suggests we can look forward to at least two more seasons of Wilf, Cags & Madders!

Albrighton played RWB during the great escape, and did really well in that position!

 

I would tend to agree with you in that I would have other players there instead of him, but don't be surprised if he plays a few games in that position for us, especially with Ricardo out for the first few months.

[PNM]

Can’t wait for the lad to get an assist in his first game at left back 

 

Okay so that might not happen but give the bloke a chance. 

[Nickbluefox]

5 minutes ago, lcfcell said:

All the tweets i’ve seen from Atalanta fans say he’s comfortable on both sides. plus the people crying have probably never seen him

If he's as good as they say and flexible like JJ then it looks like it could be a great signing 👍

[UHDrive]

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Worrying if that's the case

Looking at previous stats he's played right wing before albeit not often. I cant see the club shelling anymore cash on defence this summer so one would assume that JJ and Castagne will rotate the RB/LB positions when needed with RP being the mainstay RB when fit/not required. Castagne likes to get up the flanks so hopefully he'll gell better with Barnes (who's end productivity needs to increase quite a bit to take the pressure off the midfield). Now a descent RW/Stiker needed and I wouldn't begrudge Dwight M to be frank.

[roblcfc84]

So everyone’s cross because we’ve signed a young(ish) versatile international player, highly rated by the Atalanta fan base, for half the price of the full back we’ve just sold...without any knowledge of how BR plans to use him.

Edited 1 September 2020 by roblcfc84

[Steve Earle]

Just now, StriderHiryu said:

Albrighton played RWB during the great escape, and did really well in that position!

 

I would tend to agree with you in that I would have other players there instead of him, but don't be surprised if he plays a few games in that position for us, especially with Ricardo out for the first few months.

He did, but in the last couple of seasons when he’s played as WB he’s looked like a fish out of water.

 

You may be right though, and if we play WBs (which I still don’t think will be often) I’ll be disappointed, not surprised, if MA gets minutes there. 

[Beechey]

Just now, roblcfc84 said:

So everyone’s cross because we’ve signed a young(ish) versatile international player, highly rated by the Atlanta fan base, for half the price of the full back we’ve just sold...without any knowledge of how BR plans to use him.

It's an outrage! 

Edited 1 September 2020 by Beechey

[mozartfox]

27 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

I'm just relieved it's not Matt Targett we've signed! 

You are not in an exclusive Club with that!  A magazine of bullets missed there.

[dannythefox]

36 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

One, maybe two CBS first!!

 

Yeh be nice but I think we’ll get a winger first, as it stands when everyone’s fit we still have 4 CBS don’t get me wrong I think we could strengthen in that position though. 

[AjcW]

I really doubt they will wait until the 9th to announce this, especially if they have no other signings lined up.

Chelsea announced Thiago Silva with a graphical image and then updated it a day or so later with him holding a t-shirt in a hotel room where he's on holiday.... don't think we will have to wait as long as usual for the 'must be at the training ground' photo op somehow.

[StriderHiryu]

 

Decent goal from the left hand side against Juventus!

 

Admittedly he scores it with his right 

[Raw Dykes]

6 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

We also had a class left back. That's something we don't have right now.

 

People are "bitching and moaning" because we haven't signed a Chilwell replacement. That's the point.

 

If Castagne was as good as he is on the right but on the left then nobody would complain. He'd fill a hole for two years until Thomas is ready.

 

Instead we've signed a right wing back that can occasionally play at left wing back. I struggle to see where he starts in the team. We all saw how much of an utter disaster the 5 at the back spell was last season.

 

If we went and got a specialist left back to replace Chilwell then there wouldn't be a problem whatsoever. 

 

Do you not think it's ridiculous to go and spend 24m on a wing back when we don't currently have any option but to play a flat back 4?

Will you give it a rest?

 

You're making a lot of assumptions.

1 - That because he might be slightly stronger on the right, then he's as good as useless on the left. Could he not be equally good either side?

2 - That he is Chilwell's replacement.

3 - That we don't have any option but to use a flat back 4. The transfer window's open for over a month yet.

4 - That he's no use as a full back.

 

You don't know any of these for sure, but you're acting like they are facts.

 

I expect this signing is clever forward planning. I think he'll be 1st choice on the left for this season, and then switch to the right if/when Ricardo is sold and Thomas nails down LB as his own.

 

I think it's probably wise to reserve judgement until we've seen a new signing play for us at least once or twice. No point writing someone off before it's even officially announced he's our player. I'd call that ridiculous.