lucashm Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 4 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Don’t know why Chelsea didn’t go for someone like Digne to be honest. Because Chilwell is Lampard´s first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 Really can’t bring myself to care about this, he clearly didn’t really care much with the way he shirked every tackle and didn’t appear to be at the games after his injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 21 August 2020 Author Share Posted 21 August 2020 1 hour ago, Paddy. said: I'm gutted. Losing a lad who has come through the academy, an excellent prospect with massive potential, arguably for less than he's worth (IMHO, of course). Not sure what some people are so happy about. I definitely feel a bit gutted about losing him but I feel we also should feel immensely proud of the club for the exact same reasons. The last time we sold an academy product was Schlupp for what would have been a club record fee of £12m had we not sold Kante 6 months earlier. Before that it was 2 local boys in the space of 2 years - Piper for £3m and Heskey for £11m and they were nearly 20 years ago (****ing hell). I agree that we should be getting much more for him but circumstances have conspired against us there and it's something we should learn from - which we almost always do. £50m in the bank, hopefully an experience new left back coming in and a very, very exciting young (local!) prospect up and coming soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 28 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: With this transfer likely done, lets appreciate our recruitment and academy for a moment. Kante - ~£8mill - £35mill Drinkwater - ~ £800k - £30mill Mahrez - ~400k - £60mill Maguire - £12mill - £85mill Chilwell - £0 - £50/60mill. Absolutely brilliant business from us. Agreed but I thought Kante was around £5.5 million, what a bloody steal he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXSE Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 1 minute ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Agreed but I thought Kante was around £5.5 million, what a bloody steal he was. £5.6m (€8m) 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The whole world smiles Posted 21 August 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 21 August 2020 I find it amazing that we have built one of the most expensive and state of the art training grounds ever and Ben Chillwell, a kid from Milton Keynes who first walked into Belvoir Drive as a 14 year old boy has just payed for half of it. To be honest I will remember Ben fondly an academy product who became first choice for England whilst at Leicester and was part of the squad that won the premier league (although only playing Cup matches) he cost the club nothing and leaves for 50 million a great success story for the club and for Ben. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 25 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Messi is one footed ...... maradonna was one footed. ....... there are others ..... They could be one-footed because they are Leo F***ing Messi and Diego F***ing Maradona. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 3 hours ago, Chelve84 said: I got slated last week when I said the club has no money. The club has accepted 30 million less. Hope that tells the story of where we are as a football feeder club currently. fixed it for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 1 hour ago, UHDrive said: Thats idiotic. Top 6 regularly is nowhere near our current model of sqaud depth and talent. Yeah I much prefer your model of spending money we don't have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 Good luck Ben. £50m is probably fair but I was hoping for £60m+. Good at getting up and down the pitch but his final ball is in the Lloyd Dyer mould unfortunately. His inability to use his right foot is also a problem - I've never seen such a one footed player before, but he's 23 and has plenty of room for improvement. A good deal for both sides I'd say, but of all the key players we could potentially lose this summer, Chilwell should theoretically be the easiest to replace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 Surely this can’t be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucashm Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 2 minutes ago, chapero82 said: Surely this can’t be right This dude is a bullshitter, dont worry, however, the Athletic article did mention a fee in the region of 45-50M pounds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hughes Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 I’m hopeful that if the figure is lower than expected we have a few signings in the pipeline which they want to get over the line quickly before they are poached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 I suspect the club might have decided that getting an early decision gives us time to make the signings we want, unlike post-Maguire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Md9 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 All these youth players super frank was bringing through are going straight in the bin now they can buy again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StriderHiryu Posted 21 August 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 21 August 2020 Selling academy products to fund the continued rise of the team is going to be the model for the club going forwards. It might make us feel like the new Southampton, but if we reinvest the money wisely in both Infrastructure and good signings, it will allow the club to continue to grow. Chillwell's replacement will speak volumes as to where we are going as a club. If it's Tagliafico then I don't really think we could do any better as a club - we will replace the outgoing player with a better player (short term) AND have a highly promising player in Thomas that either goes out on loan or starts a number of games next season to take over Chilwell's position long-term. This is exactly what Dortmund and Ajax do year after year and it's one of the few ways to be a sustainable and competitive team without being funded by an Oil state or Oligarch. If it's Lewis, then we are the new Southampton, but I don't think that will be his replacement. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Van Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 Don’t really care tbh. Never felt any affinity towards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 58 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Messi is one footed ...... maradonna was one footed. ....... there are others ..... Long John Silver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 3 hours ago, jeffschlupp said: No, you pay a premium for home grown players. Chilwell is no more home grown than Ake. Chelsea made £160m from Hazard and Morata and weren't allowed to spend it. ...is there something I am missing here!!! Ake has been with a British Club since 2011 and Chilwell has come through our academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristianity77 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 Like others I'm not bothered about him going. He's bang average in my eyes. Was never as good as an in prime Fuchs in that position and last season he was mostly woeful. 50 million is another pants down job on a rival. He won't improve Chelsea anymore than Drinkwater did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffschlupp Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 Just now, sacreblueits442 said: ...is there something I am missing here!!! Ake has been with a British Club since 2011 and Chilwell has come through our academy. Yes - for the Premier League and Champions League an association-trained home grown player is anyone who was registered to an English (or Welsh) club for at least 3 years or successive seasons between the ages of 15 and 21. In the PL and CL you can only name 17 senior non home grown players - in the PL you therefore need 8 home grown players to name a full 25 man squad. In the CL you only need 4 association trained players but also 4 club trained players (e.g. Barnes, Choudhury, Chilwell in our case). If you don't have enough you have to name a smaller squad. As you quite rightly say, Ake was in the Chelsea academy as a kid and thus counts as home-grown to Manchester City in exactly the same way Chilwell counts for Chelsea. The premium in transfers is for HG players, not English ones - clubs like Man City and Wolves among others are always pushing the 17 man non-HG limit so there is extra value when a top, young HG talent comes along. The only other 'premium' you can argue about English fees is that PL clubs are more cash rich than foreign ones and therefore mid-table clubs can charge more than those in say France or Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 I personally think that 50 million is a poor deal Should have held out for a lot more than that or told Chelsea where to go. Feels like with this deal we are becoming a selling club that bends over for bigger clubs, I have never felt that way with any of the other players we have sold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kristianity77 Posted 21 August 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 21 August 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, peach0000 said: I personally think that 50 million is a poor deal Should have held out for a lot more than that or told Chelsea where to go. Feels like with this deal we are becoming a selling club that bends over for bigger clubs, I have never felt that way with any of the other players we have sold. Let's be honest, if we didn't want to sell, then we wouldn't have. He's never worth 50 million in a month of Sundays. If he stayed and started next season like he did the second half of last season you could of seen millions vanish off his value every month. Be honest, when has he ever looked a world beater? Southampton? Who didn't that day! He's England's left back because there isn't really anyone else currently Providing the money gets reinvested wisely, there is only one winner here, and it's not Chelsea. He doesn't improve them one iota. Id be amazed if he doesn't turn into another Drinkwater situation for them. And him leaving doesn't really damage us either, we just have 50 million in the pocket to improve. Edited 21 August 2020 by kristianity77 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 20 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: Selling academy products to fund the continued rise of the team is going to be the model for the club going forwards. It might make us feel like the new Southampton, but if we reinvest the money wisely in both Infrastructure and good signings, it will allow the club to continue to grow. Chillwell's replacement will speak volumes as to where we are going as a club. If it's Tagliafico then I don't really think we could do any better as a club - we will replace the outgoing player with a better player (short term) AND have a highly promising player in Thomas that either goes out on loan or starts a number of games next season to take over Chilwell's position long-term. This is exactly what Dortmund and Ajax do year after year and it's one of the few ways to be a sustainable and competitive team without being funded by an Oil state or Oligarch. If it's Lewis, then we are the new Southampton, but I don't think that will be his replacement. One of my pet hates is how people always refer to Southampton. As you have said Dortmund and Ajax sustain their success on this model. Tottenham are only in the position they are in too, due to selling a few key players to Madrid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilLCFC Posted 21 August 2020 Share Posted 21 August 2020 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: Is it either clubs interest to overstate the fee? Chelsea don’t want to appear to be overpaying and we don’t want to be seen to have a huge wedge in our pockets when it comes to buying targets it could be that both clubs have agreed for the lowest amount to be publicised at this stage This. And if you read the article properly it says they’re paying £50m up front and the rest in instalments - not add ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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