Babylon Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 6 hours ago, UHDrive said: Not regularly no. Which I’m sure as a club we accept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 3 hours ago, kristianity77 said: Let's be honest, if we didn't want to sell, then we wouldn't have. He's never worth 50 million in a month of Sundays. If he stayed and started next season like he did the second half of last season you could of seen millions vanish off his value every month. Be honest, when has he ever looked a world beater? Southampton? Who didn't that day! He's England's left back because there isn't really anyone else currently Providing the money gets reinvested wisely, there is only one winner here, and it's not Chelsea. He doesn't improve them one iota. Id be amazed if he doesn't turn into another Drinkwater situation for them. And him leaving doesn't really damage us either, we just have 50 million in the pocket to improve. As my mate said to me when he hear's people say he's England's left back. "If he was Scottish he'd be their third choice left back". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 3 hours ago, honeybradger said: I dont think you can argue that both dortmund and ajax wouldnt be better off if they kept their star players. Same with spurs and bale/modric. Selling clubs can never challenge consistently at the highest level, there is always a drop off period associated with this model. Im sure if you asked the people running these selling clubs they would much rather hold onto their star players than sell them. You can, because they need to sell to buy. Dortmund would not be in the position they're in if Dembele hadn't enabled them to buy Witsel, Brandt, Hazard, etc. Ajax don't need to sell to buy right at this very moment, but they do need to sell in order to keep their academy as prestigious as it is - if there aren't consistent opportunities for young players, they'll go elsewhere and Ajax will miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkish14 Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 8 hours ago, SmuelMartin said: Hahaha most of it wasn’t critically challenging, I’ve not even really spoke in here. Just people telling me I was wrong without even contacting me. Some people just enjoy being rude don’t they. This is today’s “norm” Sadly with plenty of platforms to do so. challenge people, yes.... but it should be kept respectful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXYTALK Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 Sorry to see him go. But I think it was inevitable, his current injury could be a problem. So 50 million plus add ons is good business. People need to draw a line and move forward. He probably wanted to leave alot earlier than now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc-1992 Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 Was it Chilwell that didn’t want to take throw ins against Millwall because he was receiving abuse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Renard Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 We are a selling club(at the right price), Chelsea know it or else they wouldn't persist with the Chilwell deal. The clubs just above us in the 'pecking order' know they will have to pay more for a Leicester player, maybe it is why Man city seem to stay well clear of any of our players since Mahrez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 I think most of us would have happily accepted £60m on the basis that we replace him with similar quality (and cheaper). With that in mind if the supposed £50m plus addons/instalments is correct and we can secure Tagliafico in return then I think we'll have done fairly well. After selling Maguire last summer for a very publicly known high fee we struggled to buy anyone else without being rinsed as clubs knew we were cash rich; hopefully a deal that appears like we're getting less upfront helps to mitigate that somewhat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 If we were another club, who’d sell a player for £50m and the owners would bank the money, I’d not be happy with this. We’re lucky that we can sell players and be very confident that the money will be put into the transfer budget or be used for the good of the club. I don’t think transfers like this make us a ‘selling club’, because if the price wasn’t right (massively inflated), we wouldn’t sell. This is great business and providing we have a better replacement coming in, even for an equal fee, it’d be good business. The likelihood is we’ll improve our left-back position, having plenty if change left over is a massive bonus. Comparing us to Southampton isn’t fair at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 21 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said: If we were another club, who’d sell a player for £50m and the owners would bank the money, I’d not be happy with this. We’re lucky that we can sell players and be very confident that the money will be put into the transfer budget or be used for the good of the club. I don’t think transfers like this make us a ‘selling club’, because if the price wasn’t right (massively inflated), we wouldn’t sell. This is great business and providing we have a better replacement coming in, even for an equal fee, it’d be good business. The likelihood is we’ll improve our left-back position, having plenty if change left over is a massive bonus. Comparing us to Southampton isn’t fair at all. I think the Southampton comparison comes from the fact we've now sold 3 first team players to them in the last few years. Of course, Southampton sold a few of theirs to Liverpool in one summer so that is worse but I still don't like the idea that a club that we were a direct rival of last season can keep swooping in like this. Fortunately, apart from Kanté, they have so far picked the wrong players! Let's face it Soyuncu or Ric would be much better buys to improve Chelsea's current team than Chilwell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escape2victory Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 Be interesting to see what the add ons are. On the face of it £50m seems a good deal for us, but when you consider United bought Wan-Bissaka last year for £45m with £5m add ons, then £50m for England’s established left back doesn’t seem that good 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_wright Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 37 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said: If we were another club, who’d sell a player for £50m and the owners would bank the money, I’d not be happy with this. We’re lucky that we can sell players and be very confident that the money will be put into the transfer budget or be used for the good of the club. I don’t think transfers like this make us a ‘selling club’, because if the price wasn’t right (massively inflated), we wouldn’t sell. This is great business and providing we have a better replacement coming in, even for an equal fee, it’d be good business. The likelihood is we’ll improve our left-back position, having plenty if change left over is a massive bonus. Comparing us to Southampton isn’t fair at all. Didn’t the owners bank the maguire money? Yet to see anything spent with that! They now have 130m to spend just from 2 sales... I’d be suprised if we spend anything near that this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 2 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: Didn’t the owners bank the maguire money? Yet to see anything spent with that! They now have 130m to spend just from 2 sales... I’d be suprised if we spend anything near that this summer But we have spent a damn lot on a new training ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 Are waiting for him to actually leave before we establish our new scapegoat ... which player will be the most nervous at chillys departure ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue blood Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 £50m with add ons. I suspect Chelsea learnt from man utd. Leave it late and the price will go up and up. With this money + maguire money I fully expect some incomings in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: Are waiting for him to actually leave before we establish our new scapegoat ... which player will be the most nervous at chillys departure ?? Madders!!😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta2014 Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 I hope this is over and done with in the next couple of days so we can move on, plan officially without him. Unlike last pre season when maguire played most friendlies and we have him Man Utd match fit. i also hope it will start our summer transfer activity. Would be a boost going into the first friendly on Wednesday with a new addition. Fingers crossed on chilwell he’s a frustrating player, he’s inconsistent within a game so often. Drives forward really well and a danger with the beating of the full back then 10 mins later he’s cutting back again and giving to soyuncu when no need! A solid left back for us who can improve but fear he doesn’t have a natural footballing brain to improve that someone like tielemans has. all the best too him and I still think his best game was athletico Madrid at home in the quarter final, changed the tempo we played with and we had a right go that night. Cheers Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 20 minutes ago, escape2victory said: Be interesting to see what the add ons are. On the face of it £50m seems a good deal for us, but when you consider United bought Wan-Bissaka last year for £45m with £5m add ons, then £50m for England’s established left back doesn’t seem that good You have to remember the impact of Covid this summer plus the fact that Man Utd are terrible negotiators, as we saw with Maguire. They got ripped off with Wan Bissaka too - he's fast and good at tackling but hopeless at contributing in an attacking sense, as people are now realising. Anyway, it sounds like the add ons for Chilwell are actually further instalments so the final fee for him will probably be nearer £60m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 I keep hearing how he's going to develop into the best left back in the history of left backs but it could just as easily be that he's already peaked and won't improve further. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened to a 23 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 13 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Are waiting for him to actually leave before we establish our new scapegoat ... which player will be the most nervous at chillys departure ?? Maddison. Quite clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtcity Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 If we bag 50m up front then a potential 10m in instalments that will make him the most expensive full back ever signed and the 5th most expensive defender ever signed.... not bad going considering the times we’re currently in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snik-Snok Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 If its £50m, potentially more, I'm happy with that. Between the 2 penalty areas down that left flank, he's probably one of the best there is (apart from when he's controlling the ball out of play for an opposition throw in) . However, when he's at either end of the pitch he's average. Defensively, he's done regularly by anyone with any pace, strength or skill, and is usually awol when defending the far post. Going forward, he either floats the ball aimlessly across (although that may work better with giroud or Abraham), or stops and plays it backwards. Whether or not he'll be missed will depend on who they replace him with. There's some better players out there, but also some worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 21 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: Didn’t the owners bank the maguire money? Yet to see anything spent with that! They now have 130m to spend just from 2 sales... I’d be suprised if we spend anything near that this summer I think the money is still in the club, granted money is now a KP asset. We did spend last summer though. We had a transfer kitty before the Maguire sale, money coming from the club, but if that money stayed in the club and the Tielemens and Justin transfers were funded by the following Maguire sale, that’s understandable. If the rest of the money is in LCFCs accounts then personally I wouldn’t have a problem with that. After the recent (and still ongoing) situation, having spare funds available to cover any kind of costs is a sensible decision. Not that I believe KP would allow us to struggle, but with the new training ground, stadium expansion and wage bill, we could’ve been in trouble. Other clubs ended up in trouble without the huge investments we’ve made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 22 August 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 22 August 2020 As @Babylon and @Ric Flair pointed out recently, we can’t compete with the top six for now on finances alone, we have to sell certain assets in order to remain self sufficient. Unfortunately this is the way we will need to operate until we can afford to start to spend more money. We’re a relatively small club, and what we have achieved thus far is staggering. This is precisely why the owners bought Brendan to the club, because of his philosophy and ability to be flexible. I earlier suggested we were a selling club, but when you think about it we are not. There’s only two players we’ve sold who have significantly affected our squad (in my opinion) and that’s Mahrez and Kante, the latter we managed to replace. We’ve seem to have more recently started replacing players with quality. Cliche saying but Rome wasn’t built in a day, and eventually we will build a team fit to take on the top team. I trust the club know what they’re doing and you’ll probably start a thread about Tagliafico (if he signs) once he’s played his first game being hailed as the next Roberto Carlos. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los dedos Posted 22 August 2020 Share Posted 22 August 2020 Out of interest how many English left backs are regular starters for their team in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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