Possible 2nd lockdown for Leicester?

[yorkie1999]

10 minutes ago, RobHawk said:

Leicester is the guinea pig for localised lockdowns. 

 

The End

You're probably right. If you were looking for a city to practice on, you would look for a city with the most diverse population with the least amount of trouble between the differing races. Leicester is known for its multiculturalism so it's the obvious place to pick on.

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[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, filbertway said:

There wouldn't be any deaths for another 2 weeks would there? 3/4 weeks to see deaths from infection is about right isn't it. So it'll be interesting to see if there's an increase in deaths between 6th-13th july

On the available data - cases in Leicester peaked around 8th-11th June and again on 17th. So you'd expect to see those manifest now. 

Edited 30 June 2020 by Cardiff_Fox

[filbertway]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

On the available data - cases in Leicester peaked around 8th-11th June. 

Ahh sorry, I thought it was 18th. So we're hitting the 3 week point now. So this week is when we'd expect to see deaths from that then.

 

Talk about bolting the gate after the horse has left

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Maybe but if the case numbers of 10% national cases are correct then fair enough, it’s just late again.

 

For anyone heading on holiday soon, I’ve already heard of an instance where a camp site doesn’t want anyone from Leicester coming.

My parents were meant to be going Sunday for 2 weeks, they reckon they're going to just cancel it now.

[CosbehFox]

Just now, filbertway said:

Ahh sorry, I thought it was 18th. So we're hitting the 3 week point now. So this week is when we'd expect to see deaths from that then.

 

Talk about bolting the gate after the horse has left

 

Edited my post but 17th/18th as well. Hancock announced on 18th there was an outbreak. 

Edited 30 June 2020 by Cardiff_Fox

[davieG]

Leicester has become the new Leper Colony.

[Costock_Fox]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

Leicester has become the new Leper Colony.

It’s like the Craig Levein days all over again.

[filbertway]

Love the thought of people genuinely asking someone "where are you from?". When they hear the reply "lestoh mate" they start trembling in fear like Shaggy and Scooby seeing a gh-gh-gh-ghoooost

 

 

[foxile5]

I'm struggling to understand this. 

 

Am I right in thinking that they've gotten the time frame wrong for lockdown, there are no current deaths, we're guinea pigs and they've still managed to cock up getting out the information and guidance..

 

What is actually happening at the minute?

[Captain...]

13 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

I'm struggling to understand this. 

 

Am I right in thinking that they've gotten the time frame wrong for lockdown, there are no current deaths, we're guinea pigs and they've still managed to cock up getting out the information and guidance..

 

What is actually happening at the minute?

The government are clueless that's been pretty clear.

 

I was kinda on board with them from lockdown starting up until the "stay alert" message now it feels like they don't have a clue.

[WigstonWanderer]

5 hours ago, Manini said:

The red line. The shaded area was previously considered apparently but they’ve decided to just leave it as the red line...

 

Which begs the ****ing question, why would you leave the shaded area on the map?! I genuinely think you’re all just being taken for a load of mugs. It’s like this government get a serious kick out of leaving the general public with loads of ambiguity and confusion - as if we have 4 more years before we can even contemplate doing anything about these absolute ***** in office. 

 

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, Captain... said:

The government are clueless that's been pretty clear.

 

I was kinda on board with them from lockdown starting up until the "stay alert" message now it feels like they don't have a clue.

I actually think they know exactly what they're doing. They've almsot certainly realised quite quickly that logically it makes no sense to try and protect everyone from a disease that is unlikely to affect you unless you're incredibly unhealthy or 75+.

 

So they're kind of doing this "we have a plan, but we're not gonna be dead strict about it" thing. Rather than admit that the economy and the whole nations livelihoods and futures are more important than a small percentage of the population potentially catching a virus that could be fatal for them.

 

I think as long as the NHS isn't close to being overwhelmed they'll continue to act this way. It's a toss up between admitting that you're willing to sacrifice people to help ensure that the country isn't plunged into poverty or looking a bit clueless. I guess they think looking like prats is more forgivable when it comes to the next election.

[Ollie93]

6 minutes ago, Captain... said:

The government are clueless that's been pretty clear.

 

I was kinda on board with them from lockdown starting up until the "stay alert" message now it feels like they don't have a clue.

I've been supporting them for the majority of lockdown, but this is a bit silly imo. From what i've read, the 'spike' in cases was the two weeks leading up to the 26th of June. 41 cases confirmed between 16th June to 26th, which is nothing really. Its silly.

[Trav Le Bleu]

The problem is, and always has been, people not following the rules.

 

Changing the rules won't make any difference.

[stix]

1 hour ago, Costock_Fox said:

Maybe but if the case numbers of 10% national cases are correct then fair enough, it’s just late again.

 

For anyone heading on holiday soon, I’ve already heard of an instance where a camp site doesn’t want anyone from Leicester coming.

Well it’s funny you say that, the owners we are renting from in August are blanking my calls today 😂 

[Legend_in_blue]

944 cases reported in the last two weeks.

 

135 cases per 100 000 people w/e 21 June.

 

How do these figures work?

 

How many people have actually been tested in that time?

 

How does this compare to national figures?

 

And they won't release postcode details on specific areas as its against data protection protocols.

 

It's all very sketchy.

 

Edited 30 June 2020 by Legend_in_blue

[FoxesDeb]

1 hour ago, Costock_Fox said:

Maybe but if the case numbers of 10% national cases are correct then fair enough, it’s just late again.

 

For anyone heading on holiday soon, I’ve already heard of an instance where a camp site doesn’t want anyone from Leicester coming.

Spoke to mine earlier, he's still happy for us to go. If we still wanted to go, obviously 

[RoboFox]

1 hour ago, Costock_Fox said:

For anyone heading on holiday soon, I’ve already heard of an instance where a camp site doesn’t want anyone from Leicester coming.

That's been happening to my family for about 30 years. 

[Spudulike]

50 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The problem is, and always has been, people not following the rules.

 

Changing the rules won't make any difference.

The BBC is suggesting that some communities are not following the rules due to translation difficulties. Does Leicester really have that many unable to speak English? 

[StriderHiryu]

 

 

Has this been posted yet? Explains the situation well, though obviously not to us unimportant people

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

The BBC is suggesting that some communities are not following the rules due to translation difficulties. Does Leicester really have that many unable to speak English? 

Probably a fair number, but I'd suggest that each family would have at least one member fluent enough in English.

[UniFox21]

9 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

 

Has this been posted yet? Explains the situation well, though obviously not to us unimportant people

What are the pillars of data?

[bmt]

10 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

 

Has this been posted yet? Explains the situation well, though obviously not to us unimportant people

What does pillar 2 mean?

 

Just looked:

 

• Pillar 1: swab testing in Public Health England (PHE) labs and NHS hospitals for those with a clinical need, and health and care workers
• Pillar 2: swab testing for the wider population, as set out in government guidance
• Pillar 3: serology testing to show if people have antibodies from having had COVID-19
• Pillar 4: serology and swab testing for national surveillance supported by PHE, ONS, Biobank, universities and other partners to learn more about the prevalence and spread of the virus and for other testing research purposes, for example on the accuracy and ease of use of home testing

Edited 30 June 2020 by bmt

[StriderHiryu]

4 minutes ago, bmt said:

What does pillar 2 mean?

 

Just looked:

 

• Pillar 1: swab testing in Public Health England (PHE) labs and NHS hospitals for those with a clinical need, and health and care workers
• Pillar 2: swab testing for the wider population, as set out in government guidance
• Pillar 3: serology testing to show if people have antibodies from having had COVID-19
• Pillar 4: serology and swab testing for national surveillance supported by PHE, ONS, Biobank, universities and other partners to learn more about the prevalence and spread of the virus and for other testing research purposes, for example on the accuracy and ease of use of home testing

Thanks for that, super useful.

 

What does this mean for us all!? I find it terrifying on a national scale. We see various handpicked, curated statistics, but the real statistics can be hidden from the public like this. The red bars explain the situation perfectly, rates of infection are out of control and the brakes need to be put in place. Hiding this information from the general public makes you wonder what else is being hidden from us. "Don't worry everyone! Go out and buy from Primark and JD Sports, and treat yourself to a pint on Saturday - it's your national duty!" Don't worry about what's really going on.

 

I want the lockdown to end as much as everyone else does - it's depressing to live life like this. But this Government, not for the first time, is putting people's lives at danger. If we get re-opening wrong we are going to end up like the Southern states in the USA, and have even more severe outbreaks.

[stix]

19 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

 

Has this been posted yet? Explains the situation well, though obviously not to us unimportant people

Would be interesting to see Pillar 2 data for other Cities/Counties over the same time period. Would/Should paint a much clearer picture.