Stadt Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 34 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said: The media are playing up to their fanbase. Which is big, obsessed but also slightly blinded by thinking they’re a huge club. That squad they had last season is really average. Bielsa worked wonders and his style of play was really effective. I don’t think it’ll work as well against better quality opposition though. They’ve got a few good players but the rest are just workers. Despite all that, I think they’ll stay up and possibly finish mid-table as there is a lot of dross in the league. Edit - they desperately need a striker! Rodrigo can play upfront, wouldn't want to rely on him though if I was a Leeds fan. What might cost them though is that Bielsa is stubborn and his insistence on Bamford is weird because as you know he's just shit. You only have to look at that FA cup against Arsenal the over year though to see that they'll be fine, they're a more developed side now compared to then and they'll batter worse opposition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 Confirmed Premier League fixtures on Sky Sports Sat 12 Sep: Liverpool vs Leeds Utd - 5.30pm Sun 13 Sep: West Brom vs Leicester City - 2pm Sun 13 Sep: Tottenham vs Everton - 4.30pm Mon 14 Sep: Brighton vs Chelsea - 8pm Sat 19 Sep: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace - 5.30pm Sun 20 Sep: Arsenal vs West Ham Utd - 2pm Sun 20 Sep: Chelsea vs Liverpool - 4.30pm Mon 21 Sep: Wolves vs Man City - 8pm Sat 26 Sep: West Brom vs Chelsea - 5.30pm Sun 27 Sep: Fulham vs Aston Villa - 2pm Sun 27 Sep: Man City vs Leicester City - 4.30pm Mon 28 Sep: Liverpool vs Arsenal - 8pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildave3 Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 21 hours ago, DanNDH88 said: If he signs then I’ll lose a lot of love for football really I’d also like to know why this is. Personally I’d love it if he comes to England, hopefully we get to see him play somewhere other than Barca. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 Surprised so many of you think Messi signing is going to trip up Man City on FFP. They've already cheated the system once, and set a legal precedent to run roughshod over UEFA in the process. They can, quite frankly, do what they want at this point. FFP is dead for anyone with the money to hire decent lawyers. I want to see Messi in the Prem from a purely football-based standpoint. Since I have next to no interest in European leagues, La Liga and the El Classico sideshow included, I've actually managed to avoid watching him all these years, except for his underwhelming performances for Argentina. I'd like to see what all the hype is about, and more importantly whether or not he really is capable of carrying a team on his own. I have Juve supporting friends at work here who think Ronaldo joining them has been a mistake and upset their team's balance, but they spanked the league thanks to him by the sounds of it. I guess it depends what the Man City fans' priorities are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 Did Man City really cheat the system? UEFA f ucked up their investigation as judge, prosecutor and jury. Man City are hardly innocent but inconsistencies with their sponsorship income 7 years ago isn’t them ripping up the FFP rulebook. I’d love to see Messi play in England, the problem is I don’t want to see him play for any of the clubs that could afford him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8672081/Premier-League-clubs-WAR-decision-five-substitute-rule-season.html What's this the EU? We vote again and again until we get the result we want? Pretty shocking really, will just give an advantage to the bigger teams, much like it did post lockdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 Interesting to see how Doherty will do at Spurs, never seen him play in a back-four, so wonder how he'll adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 THE 20 PREMIER LEAGUE CLUBS' SPENDING THIS WINDOW Arsenal - £14m Aston Villa - £0 Brighton - £1.4m Burnley - undisclosed figures Chelsea - £140m (Havertz will make it £230m) Crystal Palace - £19.5m Everton - £0 Fulham - £12.9m Leeds United - £18m (Rodrigo will make it £53m) Leicester City - £0 Liverpool - £11.8m Manchester City - £86m Manchester United - £0 Newcastle United - £0 Sheffield United - £18.5m Southampton - £22.9m Tottenham Hotspur - £20m West Bromwich Albion - £9m West Ham United - £15m Wolverhampton Wanderers - £0 *Chelsea and Manchester City combined = £226m (will be £316m with Havertz). *Other 18 clubs = £163m (will be £198m with Rodrigo to Leeds). Burnley's fees are unknown. *Figures correct as of Friday, August 28 at 2pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 BT Sport will kick things off on September 12 by boradcasting the opening game of the season - Fulham v Arsenal at 12.30pm. Sky Sports will follow suit by covering defending champions Liverpool in their evening kick off against Leeds United at 5.30pm. TV coverage will then continue on Sunday 12 September with Leicester City travelling to West Bromwich Albion for a 2.00pm kick off before Tottenham Hotspur face Everton at 4.30pm. Both games on September 12 will be live on Sky Sports, as will Brighton & Hove Albion’s match against Chelsea on Monday 14 September at an 8.00pm. Fans can also stay up to date with the action each weekend as the Premier League’s UK live radio partners, BBC Radio 5 Live and talkSPORT, will be covering the 3:00pm slot on Saturday afternoons. The opening day of the 2020-2021 season will also see 5 Live provide exclusive live commentary of West Ham United vs Newcastle United, with talkSPORT covering Crystal Palace v Southampton. Both Manchester sides will be live on Sky Sports as Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s men face Crystal Palace at home on Saturday September 19 at 5:30pm and Pep Guardiola’s side take on Wolverhampton Wanderers at 8.00pm on Monday 21 September. Details for fixtures from October 24 are yet to be announced as amendments to the schedule will be made due to the Europa League. In addition, games in December have been shifted due to the knock-on effect of the new dates. As it stands, the 2020-2021 season will begin behind closed doors but fans will find themselves in the thick of the action thanks to the UK live television coverage. 2020-2021 SCHEDULE CHANGES Fulham v Arsenal Same date: Saturday 12 September New kick off time: 3:00pm Channel: Live on BT Sport Liverpool v Leeds United Same date: Saturday 12 September New kick off time: 5:30pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City New date: Sunday 13 September New kick off time: 2:00pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Tottenham v Everton New date: Sunday 13 September New kick off time: 4:30pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Everton v West Bromwich Albion Same date: Saturday 19 September New kick off time: 12:30pm Channel: Live on BT Sport Manchester United v Crystal Palace Same date: Saturday 19 September New kick off time: 5:30pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Southampton v Tottenham New date: Sunday 20 September New kick off time: 12:00pm Channel: Live on BT Sport Arsenal v West Ham New date: Sunday 20 September New kick off time: 2:00pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Aston Villa v Sheffield United New date: Sunday 20 September New kick off time: 2:00pm Newcastle United v Brighton & Hove Albion New date: Sunday 20 September New kick off time: 2:00pm Chelsea v Liverpool New date: Sunday 20 September New kick off time: 4:30pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Wolverhampton Wanderers v Manchester City New date: Monday 21 September New kick off time: 8:00pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester United Same date: Saturday 26 September New kick off time: 12:30pm Channel: Live on BT Sport West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea Same date: Saturday 26 September New kick off time: 5:30pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Sheffield United v Leeds United New date: Sunday 27 September New kick off time: 12:00pm Channel: Live on BT Sport Fulham v Aston Villa New date: Sunday 27 September New kick off time: 2:00pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Manchester City v Leicester City New date: Sunday 27 September New kick off time: 4:30pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Liverpool v Arsenal New date: Monday 28 September New kick off time: 8:00pm Channel: Live on Sky Sports Arsenal v Leicester City Original date/time: Saturday 24 October, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Leeds United v Leicester City Original date/time: Saturday 24 October, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Manchester United v Arsenal Original date/time: Saturday 31 October, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Arsenal v Aston Villa Original date/time: Saturday 7 November, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Leicester City v Wolverhampton Wanderers Original date/time: Saturday 7 November, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Arsenal v Wolverhampton Wanderers Original date/time: Saturday 28 November, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Leicester City v Fulham Original date/time: Saturday 28 November, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Sheffield United v Leicester City Original date/time: Saturday 5 December, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Tottenham v Arsenal Original date/time: Saturday 5 December, 3.00pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Arsenal v Burnley New date: Saturday 13 December New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Leicester City v Brighton & Hove Albion New date: Sunday 13 December New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to the Europa League the preceding Thursday Arsenal v Southampton Original date/time: Tuesday 15 December, 7.45pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to Arsenal v Burnley moving to Sunday December 13 Aston Villa v Burnely Original date/time: Tuesday 15 December, 7.45pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to Arsenal v Burnley moving to Sunday December 13 Fulham v Brighton & Hove Albion Original date/time: Tuesday 15 December, 7.45pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to Leicester City v Brighton & Hove Albion moving to Sunday December 13 Leicester City v Everton Original date/time: Tuesday 15 December, 7.45pm New date: TBC New kick off time: TBC - Reason for amendment is due to Leicester City v Brighton & Hove Albion moving to Sunday December 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 12 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Interesting to see how Doherty will do at Spurs, never seen him play in a back-four, so wonder how he'll adapt. He's probably not bothered how he'll do, just wanted to go anywhere to avoid wearing that away shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 33 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8672081/Premier-League-clubs-WAR-decision-five-substitute-rule-season.html What's this the EU? We vote again and again until we get the result we want? Pretty shocking really, will just give an advantage to the bigger teams, much like it did post lockdown. How else are Chelsea going to be able to fit all of their shiny new ££ players on the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 18 minutes ago, Facecloth said: He's probably not bothered how he'll do, just wanted to go anywhere to avoid wearing that away shirt. Rather wear that away shirt than play for Spurs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 Matt Doherty confirmed to Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, OntarioFox said: Surprised so many of you think Messi signing is going to trip up Man City on FFP. They've already cheated the system once, and set a legal precedent to run roughshod over UEFA in the process. They can, quite frankly, do what they want at this point. FFP is dead for anyone with the money to hire decent lawyers. agreed. The way i see it is a hard salary cap on weekly wages. That will encourage competition, academy and be better for alll of football not just the "haves". Limit squad sizes and the ability to hoard /loan out players. Will never happen though. Edited 28 August 2020 by Jattdogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla10 Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 (edited) Messi going to ManC would be weird, for all the money they seem to spend they still feel like an aging squad. Messi wouldn't change that. Has Pep' ever shown he can rebuild a winning squad? Most of the teams he's gone to and succeeded were already largely built (or at least the core was already in place). And that includes ManC, right? I wish our first game was a 3pm Saturday kick off. I hate early-ish Sunday games on the tv. Edited 28 August 2020 by Hoopla10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFox Posted 28 August 2020 Share Posted 28 August 2020 3 hours ago, StanSP said: Matt Doherty confirmed to Spurs. Bizarre. And such a low fee too. Also just seen that Mooy has joined a club in Shanghai, which is a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 2 hours ago, CloudFox said: Bizarre. And such a low fee too. Also just seen that Mooy has joined a club in Shanghai, which is a surprise. Apparently Mooy had a 4m release clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 8 hours ago, davieG said: THE 20 PREMIER LEAGUE CLUBS' SPENDING THIS WINDOW Arsenal - £14m Aston Villa - £0 Brighton - £1.4m Burnley - undisclosed figures Chelsea - £140m (Havertz will make it £230m) Crystal Palace - £19.5m Everton - £0 Fulham - £12.9m Leeds United - £18m (Rodrigo will make it £53m) Leicester City - £0 Liverpool - £11.8m Manchester City - £86m Manchester United - £0 Newcastle United - £0 Sheffield United - £18.5m Southampton - £22.9m Tottenham Hotspur - £20m West Bromwich Albion - £9m West Ham United - £15m Wolverhampton Wanderers - £0 *Chelsea and Manchester City combined = £226m (will be £316m with Havertz). *Other 18 clubs = £163m (will be £198m with Rodrigo to Leeds). Burnley's fees are unknown. *Figures correct as of Friday, August 28 at 2pm. Who have Leeds signed? Costa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 I think Leeds could surprise a few on this forum, but they could equally implode spectacularly. A few times last season Leeds showed they are very suited to a counterattacking style, and I think Bielsa will prepare them well. But a couple injuries, and their already average squad will be terribly exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 1 hour ago, Nicolo Barella said: I think Leeds could surprise a few on this forum, but they could equally implode spectacularly. A few times last season Leeds showed they are very suited to a counterattacking style, and I think Bielsa will prepare them well. But a couple injuries, and their already average squad will be terribly exposed. I think they’ll be solid / lower to mid table. I don’t see them imploding like Fulham did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 According to L'Equipe Brendan Rodgere is the 8th highest paid manager in Europe (£8m). That was before he signed a new deal. He's better paid than Jurgen Klopp and Thomas Tuchel - that's right, he earns more than a CL winner and a CL finalist. Everton are paying Ancelotti £11.5m a year. Unbelievable that both us and Everton are paying our managers elite wages. https://www.90min.com/posts/6372559-the-11-highest-paid-managers-in-european-football?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=CPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightforever Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 1 hour ago, Koke said: According to L'Equipe Brendan Rodgere is the 8th highest paid manager in Europe (£8m). That was before he signed a new deal. He's better paid than Jurgen Klopp and Thomas Tuchel - that's right, he earns more than a CL winner and a CL finalist. Everton are paying Ancelotti £11.5m a year. Unbelievable that both us and Everton are paying our managers elite wages. https://www.90min.com/posts/6372559-the-11-highest-paid-managers-in-european-football?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=CPC Would it be wise to let him go at the end of his contract if he doesn't do anything spectacular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 1 minute ago, Fightforever said: Would it be wise to let him go at the end of his contract if he doesn't do anything spectacular? He won’t reach the end of his contract ......we will either sack him before then or he will leave for a bigger job ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightforever Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: He won’t reach the end of his contract ......we will either sack him before then or he will leave for a bigger job ..... Isn't there a massive buyout if we wanted to sack him? I think the bigger job is the only way he leaves in the next 2 or 3 years. Edited 29 August 2020 by Fightforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 29 August 2020 Share Posted 29 August 2020 4 minutes ago, Fightforever said: Would it be wise to let him go at the end of his contract if he doesn't do anything spectacular? where can he go if he doesn't win with leicester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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