LVFox Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 I don't see a team having the £80 million + it would probably take to get him, he would fit perfectly into Liverpool's midfield but I don't think they spend that kind of money. Can't really deny the guy deserves Champions League football, but i'd be absolutely gutted to see him go. 1
An Sionnach Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 Youri's problem is he doesn't have the pace to avoid a close press. His idol Zidane and Pirlo had the physical strength to hold off challenges . Youri needs to lay the ball off quickly to be able to move into clear space to make those killer passes. Xavi was always given that space by Barca's superb midfield same with Scholes. He needs a partner in midfield to enable him to do that maybe Soumaré is the guy . If he sticks around maybe we can look forward to seeing that in action. 3
GingerrrFox Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 I’m not confident he will stay but I also don’t think it’s a dead cert he will go. Personally I feel the not qualifying for the Champions League 2 years running is a big thing for him which is why he was so emotional yesterday. The failure of not getting Top 4 again maybe means he wants a bit of time for self reflection. If he signs a new deal it will be more difficult to move away in the future and he could just be assessing his options now after missing out again. 1
Blue ROI Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 Covid might be one thing in our favour here. Clubs around us don't really need him outside of maybe Liverpool and the elite European sides are almost flat broke bar 1 or 2 exceptions. The likes of Barca and Real will have to wait until they balance the books over the next year or 2. If his contract does run down then they could be waiting until then to make him an offer. 3
gerblod Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 3 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Youri's problem is he doesn't have the pace to avoid a close press. His idol Zidane and Pirlo had the physical strength to hold off challenges . Youri needs to lay the ball off quickly to be able to move into clear space to make those killer passes. Xavi was always given that space by Barca's superb midfield same with Scholes. He needs a partner in midfield to enable him to do that maybe Soumaré is the guy . If he sticks around maybe we can look forward to seeing that in action. He appears to thrive on having space and using it - a couple of goals taken on the run are illustrations of that. He does get caught out in possession but usually manages to find room for an 'emergency' pass. I agree that he and N'Didi need another player whose attributes will complement theirs. Several times recently it's been clear that they needed an extra man - especially in the return match against Chelsea when they were being bypassed almost at will. As has been stated, a figure of £80m would be prohibitive in the current financial climate - which would mean he stayed for another season. He stays and others will be less keen to move. This summer will be pivotal for City's short-term (in the short term) progress. It's not essentially about bringing in a bunch of new players as getting players back to fitness and having more capable subs. As for the guys you mentioned - I admired them all (bar Scholes - a little too dirty for my liking). Indeed Zidane gets into my all-time top five. Yet they never chose to play in the Premier. Can't blame them. 1
Popular Post Oxfordfox83 Posted 24 May 2021 Popular Post Posted 24 May 2021 Bloody hell, the absolute state of this thread. 45m?? 70m?? - There is nothing to suggest he wants to go. Waving to fans at the end of a season with no fans is pretty normal. - He clearly actually loves it here - 2 years is plenty: the situation for buyers will be exactly the same next year, where Utd need to replace Pogba, Madrid need to replace Modric, Liverpool need to replace Henderson. - Top, Rudkin and Susan have shown how they do business, which means 100m minimum, which the ESL (bar Man C) can’t afford - It’s literally 2 hours into the off season: maybe give the club a chance to do its business 16
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 24 May 2021 Popular Post Posted 24 May 2021 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: There are lots of possible implications to crashing out the CL again Minimum 45 million quid Possibly failing to attract better players The biggest one of all could be losing Youri He’s our best player and I’m certain will become a world class midfielder I’d be gutted to see him leave The difference in what we earn in the CL and EL is not £45m unless we get through to the knockout stages. We'll earn around £20m for the Europa League and another year in Europe has seen us move up a tier in shirt sponsorship with Adidas which will be worth another £5-10m and there's the obvious new commercial deal with FBS that is significant. CL qualification on top of all this would have been amazing but we often view CL finances from a position where without it we only get the bare minimum which just isn't true. We are chipping away quite nicely. 9
volpeazzurro Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 22 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: I’m not confident he will stay but I also don’t think it’s a dead cert he will go. Personally I feel the not qualifying for the Champions League 2 years running is a big thing for him which is why he was so emotional yesterday. The failure of not getting Top 4 again maybe means he wants a bit of time for self reflection. If he signs a new deal it will be more difficult to move away in the future and he could just be assessing his options now after missing out again. I think that's right and in his circumstances, entirely the right stance to take. There isn't however upon reflection, a need to leave immediately. Of the teams that would want him, be able to afford him at this time, how many would offer him regular weekly football? Youri is in the driving seat. Perhaps an extension with more money for his family and certain clauses may be an option. Whilst we don't like them, from our point of view, another season from him with a clause that releases him if we don't gain Champions League football to a Champions League club would be reasonable and palatable if, in return, he agrees to stay at least another season should we actually attain Champions League football. I can see advantages for both parties there. In the meantime, if we can buy wisely this summer, who knows what heights we could attain?
pkonline Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 If England mess up (as I expect them to), I'll be cheering him on for Belgium in the Euros!
Popular Post Duquesne Whistle Posted 24 May 2021 Popular Post Posted 24 May 2021 3 minutes ago, pkonline said: If England mess up (as I expect them to), I'll be cheering him on for Belgium in the Euros! After the treatment Vardy received at the hands of the national team, I just don't feel a lot of affinity towards the England team at all anymore. Youri lifting it would be brilliant 5
KFS Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 Notably one of the only players who hasn’t posted a ‘we messed up but we go again’ message on social media. Maybe that really hurt him yesterday. 2
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 2 minutes ago, KFS said: Notably one of the only players who hasn’t posted a ‘we messed up but we go again’ message on social media. Maybe that really hurt him yesterday. Tielemans is a cool, level headed chap. He plays football seemingly without a lot of pressure on his shoulders and does it superbly He’ll know he’s a CL player. I think yesterday would have hurt him and I think he’ll really reflect on where he goes from here
filbertway Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 I genuinely think Youri has been the difference between 5th and scrapping for 8th/9th place. He's an unbelievable talent and between him and Kel, they've managed to take a team that harboured no real attacking intent for 3 months and pick up enough points to stick around the top 4. As well as helping us on the cup run. Without those 2 we could easily have finished below Leeds and flopped out of the FA Cup against Brighton in the 5th round. He should be comfortably our highest paid player and club captain. 4
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 24 May 2021 Popular Post Posted 24 May 2021 9 minutes ago, KFS said: Notably one of the only players who hasn’t posted a ‘we messed up but we go again’ message on social media. Maybe that really hurt him yesterday. Wouldn’t read too much into it, he never really posts on social media 7 posts on Instagram this season: 1 about a management company 1 about Belgium getting to semi of Nations League 1 about us qualifying for Europa knockouts 1 about New Year 1 about Stopping Abuse 2 about FA Cup win 4 1
splinterdream Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 1 hour ago, LVocey said: I don't see a team having the £80 million + it would probably take to get him, he would fit perfectly into Liverpool's midfield but I don't think they spend that kind of money. Can't really deny the guy deserves Champions League football, but i'd be absolutely gutted to see him go. I think he'd go for less unless he signs a new contract, I'd say £65m this season and what we paid for him next season as we'd have to recoup our fee. If a CL team comes in and offers that and he wants to go I think we'll negotiate but settle around that figure unfortunately 1
ARTY_FOX Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, happy85 said: Clearly you wasn’t at Wembley I was actually. Had a great day. Edited 24 May 2021 by ARTY_FOX 1
ARTY_FOX Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: No one else broke away from the group and did a solo lap of honour on either day at Wembley, YT did two! At first I made a joke of it to my son saying that youri is doing an Esteban (with his post goal bow v qpr) .........when he did the second lap I really took note. to see him to similar today (yes i know kasper was also solo applauding the fans at that point) has definitely raised my concerns. To hear Brendan say that he can reassure the fans that ‘for himself’ he isn’t leaving raises more concerns that we will lose a player we don’t want to. Didn't seem like a 'goodbye' wave to me at the time but then I was in absolute awe of the bloke. I did note a few of the players run to sections on their own, it just wasn't always very long before others piled in on the glory.
MGLCFC Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 He's had a bad experience at Monaco and he may feel a move to another big club may be a gamble. At Leicester he shines, gets into the national team and most importantly enjoys his football. The grass isn't always greener, Youri.
RoboFox Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 It's not a question of if, it's when... But I don't see him leaving this summer. Seems to be a bit of a panic over nothing. He'll have ambitions to play in the Champions League but everyone can see the trajectory we're on. He seems like a level-headed bloke. Although we need to add to the squad, stat. The existing team need to know we're serious about progressing and building the side around our best players. 1
Nod.E Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 1 hour ago, Oxfordfox83 said: Bloody hell, the absolute state of this thread. 45m?? 70m?? - There is nothing to suggest he wants to go. Waving to fans at the end of a season with no fans is pretty normal. - He clearly actually loves it here - 2 years is plenty: the situation for buyers will be exactly the same next year, where Utd need to replace Pogba, Madrid need to replace Modric, Liverpool need to replace Henderson. - Top, Rudkin and Susan have shown how they do business, which means 100m minimum, which the ESL (bar Man C) can’t afford - It’s literally 2 hours into the off season: maybe give the club a chance to do its business The inferiority complex of our fan base is really beginning to p*ss me off. 3
pkonline Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 Tielemans comes across as very intelligent and mature. He's already had a lot of games behind him, but also off the pitch he's got a young family. He isn't someone who sits on social media, or comes across as sitting on fifa and having parties, like others his age. I suspect he'll balance what is right for his family with his personal ambitions.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nod.E said: The inferiority complex of our fan base is really beginning to p*ss me off. How on earth is it ‘inferior’ to suggest Tielemans would probably want to play for Barcelona or Bayern?? Look at the big names we’ve sold over recent years: Mahrez... league winner and CL finalist Maguire... CL and Europa final Kante... say nothing more Brylcreem boy... CL finalist and CL next season All of these players have left to improve their lot, and they have done It’s football Edited 24 May 2021 by Col city fan
Nod.E Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: How on earth is it ‘inferior’ to suggest Tielemans would probably want to play for Barcelona or Bayern?? Look at the big names we’ve sold over recent years: Mahrez... league winner and CL finalist Maguire... CL and Europa final Kante... say nothing more Brylcreem boy... CL finalist and CL next season It’s football Yeah maybe he'll go at some point. But only at a price and time that works for us. It's more the 'at least we tried' crowd that are annoying me to be honest. Might as well tell me 'it's only a game'.
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 1 hour ago, Oxfordfox83 said: Bloody hell, the absolute state of this thread. 45m?? 70m?? - There is nothing to suggest he wants to go. Waving to fans at the end of a season with no fans is pretty normal. - He clearly actually loves it here - 2 years is plenty: the situation for buyers will be exactly the same next year, where Utd need to replace Pogba, Madrid need to replace Modric, Liverpool need to replace Henderson. - Top, Rudkin and Susan have shown how they do business, which means 100m minimum, which the ESL (bar Man C) can’t afford - It’s literally 2 hours into the off season: maybe give the club a chance to do its business The situation for buyers next year would be that we would have to except a significantly below market value fee or risk losing him for free the following summer, like the position we suspect Tarkowski might be in now. From the club’s perspective it makes sense to either extend for a couple of years or cash in now - fortunately no one is likely to meet our valuation now but if he doesn’t want to extend it puts us in a difficult position.
dannythefox Posted 24 May 2021 Posted 24 May 2021 4 hours ago, lcfc cowboys said: Shut up because he is not in photos does not mean he is going . You just keeping riding your horses son.
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