STUHILL Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 For the rumoured pittance we are being offered for him, I am swaying to actually keep him as a 4th choice winger... Someone slap me quick!
Bats8711 Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 There can't be a deal close to being agreed, let alone done, if he's starting tonight - right? 1
Jimbo Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 1 minute ago, Bats8711 said: There can't be a deal close to being agreed, let alone done, if he's starting tonight - right? You could have said the same about Maguire 2 years ago. Played just about every friendly (which was probably about 2) and then suddenly disappeared from the squad and 2 days later was gone. There's certainly not much we can take from these pre season games so far, albeit only 1 and half so far. But the team selections for each half of each game are giving nothing away as to who will be in the Premier squad and who won't be. The fact that Ghezzal is in means nothing, he's here for now, it allows Brendan to look at different tactics and formations, utilise him while we're paying him, sod him off if or when a decent offer comes in
Bats8711 Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 Just now, Jimbo said: You could have said the same about Maguire 2 years ago. Played just about every friendly (which was probably about 2) and then suddenly disappeared from the squad and 2 days later was gone. There's certainly not much we can take from these pre season games so far, albeit only 1 and half so far. But the team selections for each half of each game are giving nothing away as to who will be in the Premier squad and who won't be. The fact that Ghezzal is in means nothing, he's here for now, it allows Brendan to look at different tactics and formations, utilise him while we're paying him, sod him off if or when a decent offer comes in I just mean in the thread a couple hours ago somebody posted some twitter "ITK" saying it was a "done deal". If it's really a "done deal", he wouldn't be playing for us. So, it may be very close and probably is - but there's no way it's "done"
Jimbo Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 Just now, Bats8711 said: I just mean in the thread a couple hours ago somebody posted some twitter "ITK" saying it was a "done deal". If it's really a "done deal", he wouldn't be playing for us. So, it may be very close and probably is - but there's no way it's "done" It was even a little close, then he wouldn't be playing. The fact that he is says that there is no deal even close, let alone done 1
TJB-fox Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 **** me this lad is class. Get him in the first eleven for wolves game 1
Dahnsouff Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 9 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: **** me this lad is class. Get him in the first eleven for wolves game **** me your broadband is slow
Dr The Singh Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 Looked good today, his footy wasn't bad either 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 28 July 2021 Posted 28 July 2021 4 hours ago, murphy said: Good. I would genuinely rather keep him and play him in the u23s than be bent over by Besiktas. ....I know how you feel!!! There is however his wage to be paid, his loyalty bonus to factor in. If you say £2.8m in wages and the same again in Loyalty Bonus then their is an out lay of £5.6m less £1.5m in incoming transfer fee equates to (£2.8m + £2.8m - £1.5m = £4.1m) outlay. If we sell: Loyalty Bonus: £2.8m - Wages: £0.00 Transfer Fee £1.5M -------------- £1.3m ---------------- The total cost to us would be £1.3m (should we sell) or if we keep till his contract expired, then the total cost to us would be £4.1m. nb. The wages has been stated at £2.8m and loyalty Bonus is a rough estimate. In both options it is in our interest to sell him, irrespective of the actual value of his Loyalty bonus.
Vardyeagle Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 Besiktas wont pay more than 2.5 - 3 M euros for sure. So either we keep him and pay 4.1 per year or we will get some transfer fee and buy a better right winger
gurru991 Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 6 hours ago, Bats8711 said: I just mean in the thread a couple hours ago somebody posted some twitter "ITK" saying it was a "done deal". If it's really a "done deal", he wouldn't be playing for us. So, it may be very close and probably is - but there's no way it's "done" Twitter "ITK's" are a dime a dozen. Right up there with football pundits.
murphy Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 8 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ....I know how you feel!!! There is however his wage to be paid, his loyalty bonus to factor in. If you say £2.8m in wages and the same again in Loyalty Bonus then their is an out lay of £5.6m less £1.5m in incoming transfer fee equates to (£2.8m + £2.8m - £1.5m = £4.1m) outlay. If we sell: Loyalty Bonus: £2.8m - Wages: £0.00 Transfer Fee £1.5M -------------- £1.3m ---------------- The total cost to us would be £1.3m (should we sell) or if we keep till his contract expired, then the total cost to us would be £4.1m. nb. The wages has been stated at £2.8m and loyalty Bonus is a rough estimate. In both options it is in our interest to sell him, irrespective of the actual value of his Loyalty bonus. Yes, but those figures are peanuts. Besiktas and anyone else for that matter, needs to learn that they don't get to set the fee and we won't just beg for scraps. I would rather keep him as a squad player for that price, I genuinely think he is no worse than Perez and can do things that AP can't. 1 1
drumbeat Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 11 hours ago, Dr The Singh said: Looked good today He did. One of our better set piece takers too (not that that's particularly difficult!) Maybe we should make like American football and bring him on only for corners and free kicks?? Nah, he is a good footballer. Lovely feet... when he gets the ball under control that is. But let's not get carried away, he's best off leaving. For all his obvious skills on the ball, he is too slow for our game and he really doesn't get involved enough.
WigstonWanderer Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 Said it in another thread, but surely he’s a better bet than Perez?
weller54 Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 8 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Said it in another thread, but surely he’s a better bet than Perez? If you dug up Queen Victoria she would be too. 1 1
Steven Posted 29 July 2021 Posted 29 July 2021 1 minute ago, weller54 said: If you dug up Queen Victoria she would be too. She is right footed.
Bergen fox Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 On 29/07/2021 at 09:55, murphy said: Yes, but those figures are peanuts. Besiktas and anyone else for that matter, needs to learn that they don't get to set the fee and we won't just beg for scraps. I would rather keep him as a squad player for that price, I genuinely think he is no worse than Perez and can do things that AP can't. This
An Sionnach Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 Pretty sure Besiktas think we will loan him back to them for the final year of his contract and then they get him for nothing next year. No subsiding his wages though , they pay the full amount.
Deeg67 Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 (edited) The longer this goes on the more I'm convinced Ghezzal is this year's pre-banishment Under - start Albrighton or Perez and anytime you're desperate for a goal, he goes on for the last 20 minutes. Edited 3 August 2021 by Deeg67 1
Nick Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 47 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: The longer this goes on the more I'm convinced Ghezzal is this year's pre-banishment Under - start Albrighton or Perez and anytime you're desperate for a goal, he goes on for the last 20 minutes. Please let this not come true.
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 59 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Pretty sure Besiktas think we will loan him back to them for the final year of his contract and then they get him for nothing next year. No subsiding his wages though , they pay the full amount. I am starting to think he may be our right winger -- especially is the view is to work Sowah/Maswanhise into the role next season.
coolhandfox Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 No chance he get a game here... Rodgers would rather invest time developing Sowah and Maswanhise 1
FoxinNotts Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 12 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: No chance he get a game here... Rodgers would rather invest time developing Sowah and Maswanhise I would tend to agree….but remember when Slimani started the season on the bench…and then came on and played last season… in the Prem… for Brendan 👀 1
Lambert09 Posted 3 August 2021 Posted 3 August 2021 (edited) I think we are being smart. Don’t let him go until we have landed a rm. if we can’t do the right deal, losing 2/3m isnt the end of the world and keeps us with an option. I’d much rather that than see us panic buy Edited 3 August 2021 by Lambert09 1
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