Game of Thrones - hide spoilers please.

[Benji]

I'm going to rewatch when it's pitch black with no lights on and brightness on 100 to make sure I didn't miss anything.

[Legend_in_blue]

This is where a plasma TV is required...

[simFox]

22 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

 

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There is still the possibility to pull this around and make sense as to why the NK was there and why his attention was on Bran and Bran alone.  Hopefully we'll get some closure with Bran in the next couple of episodes - a past/future vision, a flashback, warg-ing into someone, something, anything to make sense of why the NK was there. 

 

 

To leave it where it is right now is unacceptable.

 

To the rest of the episode, enjoyable, I thought it was great.  Both dragons are alive and well (and Ghost!) as seen in the episode 4 trailer.

 

 

No they aren't. The dragon at the end was the dead dragon overcome by the army of the dead, brought back to life as a dead dragon. There's only one left

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[Sir Shep]

Seems like most people who’ve wrote a review enjoyed it but were a tad disappointed by the ending and the lack of light. Personally I think it’s looking good now for the last 3 episodes. 

[Legend_in_blue]

2 minutes ago, simFox said:

 

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No they aren't. The dragon at the end was the dead dragon overcome by the army of the dead, brought back to life as a dead dragon. There's only one left

 

https://www.inverse.com/article/55343-game-of-thrones-rhaegal-drogon-viserion-died-how-many-dragons-does-dany-have-left

 

 

[simFox]

9 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

 

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https://www.inverse.com/article/55343-game-of-thrones-rhaegal-drogon-viserion-died-how-many-dragons-does-dany-have-left

 

 

 

that's a bit shit then. Cersei is basically toast..

 

Still got the southern sand vipers to throw their weight in too.

[Babylon]

3 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

The more I've thought about the episode today, the more annoyed I am with that ending.

 

All show and spectacle but lacking in substance.

 

We've waited 8 years for answers, countless theories later, ultimately for nothing.  We're none the wiser.

 

To carry it through in that manner and not address everything that has brought the NK to this point isn't good enough imo.  

 

It's a real shame that the plot, which was spectacular, has progressively worsened as the spectacle itself has improved.

Did they not do that in the last episode though, that might just be it. He wanted to destroy Bran as he's mankind memory... whatever the feck that means. Perhaps that's just it!

[Ashley]

Erm, wow. 

[Costock_Fox]

Half an hour in and not a single tit seen, 1/10.

[Nalis]

Went through just about every audio and screen setting on that one.

 

Was an alright episode.

[ithuriel]

26 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Did they not do that in the last episode though, that might just be it. He wanted to destroy Bran as he's mankind memory... whatever the feck that means. Perhaps that's just it!

My very quick take on things, not having watched the previous seasons last since a 2018 couple of weeks marathon binge watch.

From what I can remember from the series over all, the NK was created as the ultimate weapon against men by the children of the forest under a weirwood tree with dark magic and shoving dragon glass into his heart.

They could not control him, they made peace with men and him and the white walkers were beaten but not destroyed and a wall was built to protect the rest of Westeros from the white walkers.

The NK basically became  a dooms day weapon that destroyed all life and being from the same type of magic, the 3 eyes Ravens also needing weirwood tree's, they had a connection and he wanted to destroy them too since they could see the past and potential futures.

In the end he was destroyed by a Valyrian steel dagger, made by the race of people Dany is descended from, Dragon riders, stabbed in the chest under a weirwood tree, a trap set by Bran and he was the one that gave Arya the dagger if I remember?

 

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[Legend_in_blue]

47 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Did they not do that in the last episode though, that might just be it. He wanted to destroy Bran as he's mankind memory... whatever the feck that means. Perhaps that's just it!

 

I have just watched the how they did the episode behind the scenes video through FB - 40 minutes long.  When they get to the NK scene, which I thought was brilliantly shot, the conclusion they come to is pretty much as you've said.  I think that will be it.  Draw your own conclusions on the Valyrian steel dagger that was used, there was reference to Sam's scene where he read up on it in the citadel and leave it at that.

 

Unfortunately I don't think we'll see this Bran is the Night King theory come to fruition.  For me it was the most convincing theory but I think it's overly complicated for the show writers to pull off and they've decided to go simple.  Perhaps the books, should they ever get finished, will shine a new light on it.  Until then, what we've been served up is as far as it's going and that's that.  

 

 

[RoboFox]

Erm, did the big bad they've spent the last eight seasons building up just get nailed by a sneak attack?

[Captain...]

3 hours ago, ithuriel said:

I really enjoyed it, more deaths would have been better but it was damned good after viewing it a second time, will not spoil it for those that have not seen it yet but shout out to little bear, balls bigger than the whole Arsenal squad

Varys has more balls than the Arsenal squad.

[EnderbyFox]

5 minutes ago, Captain... said:

Varys has more balls than the Arsenal squad.

 

Speaking of Varys, he's gone from being one of the most complex, interesting characters in the show to just some bald chap hanging around in the background that Tyrion occasionally takes the piss out of 

[Captain...]

Share most people’s view that it was a great piece of tv on it’s on but a disappointing and unsatisfying way to tie up a huge part of the plot that has been 8 years in the making. 

 

If this was always the plan then they shouldn’t have spent the last 2 seasons building the NK up as the big bad, giving him a dragon, with an army of millions of undead including giants. It should have been Jon/the Starks battle and the rest of Westeros should have believed it to be snarks and grumpkins. Dany and Cersei battling in the South while Jon and NK duke it out in the North. 

 

GRRM has probably spent the last decade tying himself in bits trying to find a satisfactory ending it’s probably not a surprise that the tv show is going to be disappointing to many.

[urban.spaceman]

My favourite part of the episode:

[EnderbyFox]

What happened to Yohn Royce? He was on my list of predictions for character deaths but it appears he nipped to the shop when the battle began 

 

 

 

[Captain...]

6 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said:

What happened to Yohn Royce? He was on my list of predictions for character deaths but it appears he nipped to the shop when the battle began 

 

 

 

Snap, I had Jamie, Tormund, Gillie and Royce 

[foxfanazer]

4 hours ago, Goober said:

Just watched the last 15 minutes again myself actually. Hundred times better now i've got my head round it a bit and taken my own expectation in terms of plot out of the equation 

You talking about game of thrones or the Leicester v Arsenal game?

[lestajigs]

Absolutely fantastic episode, one thing i didnt understand were has johns dragon gone?

[egg_fried_rice]

I thought that was stupid and worse - a bit boring. No nuance any more and such ridiculous plot armour for the main characters but it's been like that for the past couple of seasons I suppose. The less said about the ludicrous ninja assassin transformation of Arya the better.

 

The lighting was fine, get the settings on your TVs sorted folks!

[Heathrow fox]

Any battle scene that lasts more than 20 mins max does tend to get a bit boring imho.This one seemed to go on for hours.Glad the zombie storyline is now dead and we can concentrate on the nitty gritty.

[deejdeej]

Was the Valyrian steel dagger used by Arya that was given by Bran, the same dagger used by the assassin to kill Bran in series one?

[Goober]

57 minutes ago, egg_fried_rice said:

I thought that was stupid and worse - a bit boring. No nuance any more and such ridiculous plot armour for the main characters but it's been like that for the past couple of seasons I suppose. The less said about the ludicrous ninja assassin transformation of Arya the better.

 

The lighting was fine, get the settings on your TVs sorted folks!

In fairness, how many main characters died at Blackwater, Hardhome, BotB, Watchers on the Wall? Ygritte, Rickon, and Davos’s son? Add to that the battles during War of the 5 Kings etc.

 

i think the situations some characters are able to get themselves out of is far fetched but in terms of big deaths this battle probably had the most major casualties of all. We rarely ever see any big guns dying in battles

 

Brienne should definitely have died though [spoiler/]