Captain... Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 A more balanced opinion piece on Vardy's achievements and discretions: http://www.thefootballramble.com/latest/entry/well-this-is-awkward I don't think it is fair to put him in the same bracket as Tyson Fury who said something pretty unpleasant, not because he was angry or drunk or in the heat of the moment, but because he genuinely believes it. It is a fair point to make the distinction between celebrating someone's achievements, and agreeing with their personal opinions and choices, having said that I still can't listen to the Lost Prophets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 The problem for me though if we're comparing who we're allowed to admire - - there is no proof that JV meant any harm by saying what he did. I personally had no idea that the term used was offensive until it was all over the papers, and I'd assume he didn't know either - Fury publicly condemned gay people and those that choose to have abortions. That is proof that his views are what you might call unpalatable, or if not his actual views then he is willing to say offensive things to get in the limelight. - Ian Watkins did rape children. Arguably the most disgusting thing a human being can possibly do, not even remotely comparable to saying something offensive in public or private If I were a total outsider, I'd say - Vardy's outburst was stupid yet forgivable, especially seeing as he immediately apologised, met up with the man in question and paid into a charity of his choice by way of apology. Offence: 1/10 - Fury: Would probably never have respect for him as a person, but can still appreciate his achievements. Offence: 3/10 - Ian Watkins: death penalty. Would ideally never hear about him again. Offence: 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycombe Fox Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/vb.365076723656400/584055495091854/?type=2&theater You've gotta fight...for your right...to VARDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 Glenn Hoddle got (rightly) hounded out of management for making astoundingly stupid comments yet Fury's still going strong despite making even worse ones (imo) and a few no-marks are choosing to focus their energy on the world's most popular sport's man of the moment despite his transgressions being fewer and despite his attempts to atone for them. We all know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/vb.365076723656400/584055495091854/?type=2&theater You've gotta fight...for your right...to VARDY Outstanding! How long till "Jamie Vardy" is commonly used as rhyming slang for party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 The problem for me though if we're comparing who we're allowed to admire - - there is no proof that JV meant any harm by saying what he did. I personally had no idea that the term used was offensive until it was all over the papers, and I'd assume he didn't know either - Fury publicly condemned gay people and those that choose to have abortions. That is proof that his views are what you might call unpalatable, or if not his actual views then he is willing to say offensive things to get in the limelight. - Ian Watkins did rape children. Arguably the most disgusting thing a human being can possibly do, not even remotely comparable to saying something offensive in public or private If I were a total outsider, I'd say - Vardy's outburst was stupid yet forgivable, especially seeing as he immediately apologised, met up with the man in question and paid into a charity of his choice by way of apology. Offence: 1/10 - Fury: Would probably never have respect for him as a person, but can still appreciate his achievements. Offence: 3/10 - Ian Watkins: death penalty. Would ideally never hear about him again. Offence: 10/10 Of course, I would probably push Fury up a couple to a 5, but all of that is subjective, which is why I can understand why Jonathon Liew would be a bit more sensitive to Vardy's comments, in the same way a devout Christian might think Fury's views are less offensive. (I hope nobody disagrees with your Watkin's rating, other than to push it to 11) It's just interesting what someone has to do for their achievements to be totally overshadowed by their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliall Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 Outstanding! How long till "Jamie Vardy" is commonly used as rhyming slang for party? Introduce it at the Foxestalk Christmas Jamie vardy...see I'm already doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 The problem for me though if we're comparing who we're allowed to admire - - there is no proof that JV meant any harm by saying what he did. I personally had no idea that the term used was offensive until it was all over the papers, and I'd assume he didn't know either - Fury publicly condemned gay people and those that choose to have abortions. That is proof that his views are what you might call unpalatable, or if not his actual views then he is willing to say offensive things to get in the limelight. - Ian Watkins did rape children. Arguably the most disgusting thing a human being can possibly do, not even remotely comparable to saying something offensive in public or private If I were a total outsider, I'd say - Vardy's outburst was stupid yet forgivable, especially seeing as he immediately apologised, met up with the man in question and paid into a charity of his choice by way of apology. Offence: 1/10 - Fury: Would probably never have respect for him as a person, but can still appreciate his achievements. Offence: 3/10 - Ian Watkins: death penalty. Would ideally never hear about him again. Offence: 10/10 Excellent post, fully agree with it. Vardy was stupid and his behaviour shouldn't be condoned but he has tried to make amends and not hide behind excuses like banter or whatever. I think the club handled the issue very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 Fury's comments are premeditated, and obviously more offensive. There's plenty of English sportsmen (and probably women) who've done far worse than Vardy has. It's a non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 Here if anyone wants to pile in, he is getting a lot of flak, and not undeserved, he seems like a typical self promoting journalist bringing it all up again to get a load of attention which he now has: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanliewjournalist/posts/1282684545127511 He hasn't helped himself with some of his comments: Jonathan Liew Wow, it's like a Lynx advert, but with all the hot women replaced by bellends. It has been done to death on here, but I agree with him all racists should be shunned, but this is one of those cases where people forget what real racism is and using a nasty word in an argument does not make someone a racist, racism is believing one race/creed/colour to be inferior. What a complete and utter tit this so called journalist has lost all credibility with this bullshit it's like a vendetta against Jamie Vardy this bloke is the lowest of the low in journalism and also to boot is a Utd fan who worships Roy Keane !! Says it all really !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 1 December 2015 Share Posted 1 December 2015 Blimey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Diego Costa has £28m release clause that Atletico Madrid may activate. In which case, Vardy is definitely worth £30m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 2 December 2015 Author Share Posted 2 December 2015 Nah to us he's priceless. No one else around like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox766 Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 This has probabaly already been posted but after looking around the intenet I find it funny that now vardy is doing very well other clubs are saying that they could of signed him. Well guess what you didn't and thought he wasn't good enough. They were all wrong and are now jealous of the fact they could of had him. Vardy is our's so they can all just fùck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Diego Costa has £28m release clause that Atletico Madrid may activate. In which case, Vardy is definitely worth £30m. Why would Chelsea have put in such a clause for a player who was one of the best in Europe when they signed him? Is this a clause that is only activated in his 2nd/3rd season? Seems bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Why would Chelsea have put in such a clause for a player who was one of the best in Europe when they signed him? Is this a clause that is only activated in his 2nd/3rd season? Seems bizarre. Probably Costa's agent put it in, he had a release clause at Atletico Madrid, although it appears that his release clause at Atletico was £32m so it is bizarre that his release clause at Chelsea is less than that. It is probably all press speculation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Probably Costa's agent put it in, he had a release clause at Atletico Madrid, although it appears that his release clause at Atletico was £32m so it is bizarre that his release clause at Chelsea is less than that. It is probably all press speculation anyway. Yeah you'd not put a release clause in for less or similar to what you've paid for a player when a) you're a top club and b) the player you're signing is very sought after at the time. Fair enough if the release clause was say £50 million but even that seems odd for a relatively young player (birth certificate wise not looks wise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 I've never seen a striker play for us that had such pace and great ability on the ball (shooting accuracy) than Vardy. Will be difficult to replace imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Why would Chelsea have put in such a clause for a player who was one of the best in Europe when they signed him? Is this a clause that is only activated in his 2nd/3rd season? Seems bizarre. Does seem odd. Pretty sure there will be some stipulations like Only if you have a ginger haired player in your u14 team. And if you do you can have costa for 28 mill. Clever way for Costa to either get a move if things go stale or an offer of a bigger contract if someone comes in with an offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Yeah you'd not put a release clause in for less or similar to what you've paid for a player when a) you're a top club and b) the player you're signing is very sought after at the time. Fair enough if the release clause was say £50 million but even that seems odd for a relatively young player (birth certificate wise not looks wise)He's 27 isn't he? Not that young.My point is that Vardy is 28 and while Costa has been on the big stage longer, but Vardy has been superior to him in the PL. So if Costa is worth £28-£32m then Vardy is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 He's 27 isn't he? Not that young. My point is that Vardy is 28 and while Costa has been on the big stage longer, but Vardy has been superior to him in the PL. So if Costa is worth £28-£32m then Vardy is too. He was 25 when they signed him though and paid about £30+ million for him so why would there be a clause for less or a similar amount for a player with many years ahead of him? Seems odd. But back to your point, if he is worth £30 million then right now you'd have to say Vardy is as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 If I was owner of a so called top club, I wouldn't be asking my staff to go after Vardy at all costs, maybe offer a cheeky sum, thats all. I love what Vardy has done, and the hights he as reached, but he has a 1/3 of a season,thats all in an enviroment he grew into.Many of these top clubs already have their team infrastructure in place, I dont know if a player at Vardys age , after this season, could further their 2-4 season outlook. Plus could they guarrantee him immediate automatic 1st team selection. Playing at Leicester from a top 8-4 position, being part of era-building,or going to a traditional famous club crimping out a chance to become 1st choice.No doubt he would be financialy rewarded, but maybe for only 2 seasons not 3-5 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 2 December 2015 Share Posted 2 December 2015 Diego Costa has £28m release clause that Atletico Madrid may activate. In which case, Vardy is definitely worth £30m. I'd look to get rid ASAP. He's trouble that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandFox Posted 3 December 2015 Share Posted 3 December 2015 Next Level. https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/672426190796398592 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gregs Posted 3 December 2015 Share Posted 3 December 2015 Just shows massive transfer fees like Costa's are soon forgotten ,when they aren't putting the work and desire in anymore! Vardys playing ever game like its his last,!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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