deep blue Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 2 hours ago, SheppyFox said: He has to start games, same with Iborra. Can't help thinking that this is the way to go, and start to evolve a system around them. It's a desperate way to do it, but how else are we going to get away from the 4-4-2 that increasingly doesn't fit with our current squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 We keep signing players who lead the the line well, but ask them to play in a supporting role. Its so frustrating. Plain and simply the only player who can fill the gap adequately between midfield and attack, in a 442 is shinji. If the system stays the same it has to be shinji and Vardy/ Slimani/ Iheanacho or it won't work. I always hear that it's Vardy who is the player that makes this system work. It's not, It's shinji. Shinji had a bad game yesterday and no surprises the system didn't work. It sounds like I'm a shinji fan boy but it's not the case, just an observation. I personally think we need to change the shape as both Slimani and Iheanacho would improve the team, Shakey just has to be brave enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 He'll probably end up activating his own buy back clause himself at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 The fact that the King Iheanancho partnership--a partnership with King threading through beatiful little balls towards Nacho's incredible footballing brain--has failed to materialise must be one of football's greatest mysteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 If I were the owners I'd be furious about our constant waste of money. According to transfermarket.com we've spent £157.45m in the last two years and only Maguire and Ndidi are first team regulars. It's absolutely criminal, we'd have been better off having a self enforced transfer embargo since we won the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 4 minutes ago, Gerard said: If I were the owners I'd be furious about our constant waste of money. According to transfermarket.com we've spent £157.45m in the last two years and only Maguire and Ndidi are first team regulars. It's absolutely criminal, we'd have been better off having a self enforced transfer embargo since we won the title. What's frustrating is that: Zieler Simpson Maguire Dragovic Chilwell Ndidi Iborra Mendy Musa Slimani Iheanacho Should really be a good enough side to beat Huddersfield and Bournemouth if they were coached and organised correctly instead of being shoehorned in to a terrible, undirected 4411 hoof ball system of "everyone back and kick it to Vardy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 3 hours ago, Lambert09 said: We keep signing players who lead the the line well, but ask them to play in a supporting role. Its so frustrating. Plain and simply the only player who can fill the gap adequately between midfield and attack, in a 442 is shinji. If the system stays the same it has to be shinji and Vardy/ Slimani/ Iheanacho or it won't work. I always hear that it's Vardy who is the player that makes this system work. It's not, It's shinji. Shinji had a bad game yesterday and no surprises the system didn't work. It sounds like I'm a shinji fan boy but it's not the case, just an observation. I personally think we need to change the shape as both Slimani and Iheanacho would improve the team, Shakey just has to be brave enough. This is because we don't have a box to box midfielder that can bring the ball forward and create chances. In a physical game he's just too lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 6 hours ago, foxinsocks said: . U r right..... a text book lesson in how to get low value from the window Are we going back to the pretence that LCFC exists to make money instead of to win football matches? Also players tend to be cheaper earlier in transfer windows Look at MCFC, got their business done early and its showing. Team glued together prior to first EPL game. Ask any manager, they will say, business should be done as early as possible for best season preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 1 hour ago, Gerard said: If I were the owners I'd be furious about our constant waste of money. According to transfermarket.com we've spent £157.45m in the last two years and only Maguire and Ndidi are first team regulars. It's absolutely criminal, we'd have been better off having a self enforced transfer embargo since we won the title. Well Mendy was loaned out when he could have stayed and be in the first team. A lot of the other signings didnt suit our system and we have employed a manager who wants to hoof ball, owners or DoF decision for the manager. The answer isnt to cripple the transfers by enforcing sales before purchases, its to make the scout system work better with the management team so we signing players suitable for what the manager wants. A lot of that spending has also been on forwards where our problem has been getting the ball to the forwards, not the forwards themselves. Something isnt sitting right in how we deciding on players to buy, as if the owners or DoF are picking players and telling the manager to get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamba's Babes Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 Doesn't suit our system. Pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 13 minutes ago, Bamba's Babes said: Doesn't suit our system. Pointless What system, I don't see one effective at present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Graham Pearson Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 4 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: What system, I don't see one effective at present? The ol' Hoof 'n' Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuchingKante Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 At the moment all of our signings are looking shite due to the awful football we're playing. How can they play well when we can't string 3 passes together in the midfield? Tactics are so, so wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 1 October 2017 Share Posted 1 October 2017 3 hours ago, Chrysalis said: Are we going back to the pretence that LCFC exists to make money instead of to win football matches? Also players tend to be cheaper earlier in transfer windows Look at MCFC, got their business done early and its showing. Team glued together prior to first EPL game. Ask any manager, they will say, business should be done as early as possible for best season preparations. You do realise that with the best will in the world, it isn't always going to be possible though, right? It's not like Leicester control the markets, there are other teams involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovejoy Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 We've been had . That first touch is genuinely alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee7 Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 He amazes me! With the ball at times he can go past 2/3 players and leave them for dead but without the ball he closes down so slowly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 I miss the days of signing underwhelming players and them turning out to be great. its the opposite these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 And Foxes talk we're worried about the buy back clause fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 Iheanacho will flop here. I'm absolutely sure of it. I take no pleasure in saying that but to me it looks like Slimani all over again, a forward who clearly does have some strengths, but nothing that really fits in with how we'll play. I expect this to be another signing where we end up questioning if the recruitment and management ever actually talk to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 On 10/1/2017 at 18:15, Gerard said: If I were the owners I'd be furious about our constant waste of money. According to transfermarket.com we've spent £157.45m in the last two years and only Maguire and Ndidi are first team regulars. It's absolutely criminal, we'd have been better off having a self enforced transfer embargo since we won the title. It's a disgrace. Considering what relative peanuts we built that title winning side on too. ****ing pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishOxide Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 40 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Iheanacho will flop here. I'm absolutely sure of it. I take no pleasure in saying that but to me it looks like Slimani all over again, a forward who clearly does have some strengths, but nothing that really fits in with how we'll play. I expect this to be another signing where we end up questioning if the recruitment and management ever actually talk to each other. If Guardiola wanted a buy back clause so bad then this kid has talent. Our recruitment is good IMO. It's our coaching staff which seems to be letting us down. Our attackers don't spend enough time in the attacking third to be judged fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblcfc84 Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 Started two games - so let's give him a chance. Looked confused as to where he should be playing, come deep or play further forward. Ultimately we either played it short across the back or played it long to Vardy, so he saw little of the ball. He needs time and a clear role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 Another promising young player that will be added to the flop list, because they don't fit our system and we didn't seem to do any homework on if he would fit our "philosophy" of hoofing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertfox2 Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 Needs to play and score against Leeds. Very low on confidence but hasn't really had any chances to score. Once he scores one sure he will come good. Although he's probably thinking being a striker at Man City was a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 17 October 2017 Share Posted 17 October 2017 Another who is short on matches and confidence- constantly over ran the ball, even on a couple of runs which came off for him. he doesn’t work in our 4-4-1-1. He could work in a 3-5-2 with a free role up top. whoever is here as a striker will find it hard whilst vardy is fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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