Gray ??

[Mint23]

Lies, damned lies and statistics 

[UniFox21]

1 minute ago, Mint23 said:

Lies, damned lies and statistics 

What's the difference?

[Col city fan]

2 hours ago, Babylon said:

I've looked at the stats, 5 goals and 5 assists since he signed. It's not good enough, his performances aren't good enough and he needs to offer far more.

Bloody Hell is that all!

Poor return...

[brucey]

So who are our best wingers at the moment? Ricardo > Ghezzal > Albrighton > Gray? Is that about right?

[psychonaut]

Gray completely embodies the phrase ‘flatters to deceive’ 

[Wymsey]

A poor man's Raheem Sterling at the moment.

Glimpses of quality at times, but quite average during others.

[davelcfc100]

First 3 games were excellent. Last 2 games he’s been a bit dog shit. Disappointed but hopefully will come good.

[bpfox]

he will never come good as long as his arse points to the ground.

[Pete Campbell]

Gray has had a decent season so far but needs to keep improving. Him and Ghezzal were abysmal vs Bournemouth though.

[Hanan96]

13 hours ago, Babylon said:

I've looked at the stats, 5 goals and 5 assists since he signed. It's not good enough, his performances aren't good enough and he needs to offer far more.

You only looking for goal and assist without seeing the context. Playing minutes, where did he play, what stage his career is, are important. 

 

Nobody can be messi or ronaldo in 1 year with playing only few minutes, moreover out of position. 

 

He's not offering almost nothing. Hes need to improve, that's right. And he does have the potential. Go on slat everybody, support another club like man City. we don't have that much money to bring 11 star player together. 

[Hanan96]

13 hours ago, MattP said:

To be honest that just shows how data in this sport is so different to others - Gray is offering nothing at the minute and he is nowhere near the level of threat Mahrez carried.

 

Same as these daft buggers that keep bringing up stuff to try and show us Mendy and Ndidi are both better than Kante.

 

Football isn't like baseball or basketball. Far too many multivariants.

He did not offer nothing at the momment. He improved. He pass when its the time to pass, not forcefully dribble or long shot too many times as the season before, and work harder to defend. He's still young and improving, mahrez is 4 years older in peak of his career. 

Its too soon to write him off yet. 

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

I don’t think he’s been decent at all. He’s been his usual inconsistent self the only difference is we currently have no better options so he’s getting the start. I can’t recall anything other than a sporadic burst past a player and a scuffed goal against Southampton. Still unimpressed. 

Edited 19 September 2018 by La-li-lu-le-lo

[Babylon]

3 hours ago, Hanan96 said:

You only looking for goal and assist without seeing the context. Playing minutes, where did he play, what stage his career is, are important.

Oh no I've looked at the context and he's done almost nothing since he joined.

 

[Col city fan]

The stats put up about Gray are interesting and reflect what you see on the pitch. For an attacking player, his final product still is nowhere near good enough.

Puel playing him as a striker is strange too. Nacho is an infinitely better finisher.

[shade]

just to get controversial, I was complaining with my old man last season about how mahrez was hardly doing anything and suddenly seemed unable to beat a man, wouldn't surprise me to see that they both offered a similar amount.

[Lovejoy]

12 hours ago, davelcfc100 said:

First 3 games were excellent. Last 2 games he’s been a bit dog shit. Disappointed but hopefully will come good.

Come on now, you know the rules here. Fixed it for you.

 

#Grayout

[Nod.E]

He'll start on Saturday. 

They'll score early doors against the run of play.

He gets dragged on 60 at 1-0 down.

We win 2-1.

[Sampson]

3 hours ago, shade said:

just to get controversial, I was complaining with my old man last season about how mahrez was hardly doing anything and suddenly seemed unable to beat a man, wouldn't surprise me to see that they both offered a similar amount.

Well, when Gray scores 12 goals this season we can say he offers a similar amount then.

[AjcW]

It's in games like Saturday where he needs to grab his chance, assists and goals etc. I don't expect him to run the show against top 6 sides but I fully expect him to make the difference against bottom six sides!

[Lionheart10]

Strange ,he always seems to have a good game for England!

[Babylon]

8 minutes ago, Lionheart10 said:

Strange ,he always seems to have a good game for England!

Lower level players mostly, just like how he has great games in the cup. He's clearly far too good for lower levels.

[don_danbury]

20 hours ago, brucey said:

So who are our best wingers at the moment? Ricardo > Ghezzal > Albrighton > Gray? Is that about right?

i'd certainly say albrighton is better than him. how he even gets ahead of him is mental. Never got the hype about gray tbh. 

[Stadt]

Stats aren’t the issue, context is always vital with them. One of the biggest issues is that publicly available data is quite basic and don’t mean an awful lot. Behind the scenes analytics are becoming increasingly vital but these are people with access to in-house and external data sources. Most have degrees

in stats and have coached to some

degree, too.

[Foxaholic ME]

22 hours ago, AjcW said:

It's in games like Saturday where he needs to grab his chance, assists and goals etc. I don't expect him to run the show against top 6 sides but I fully expect him to make the difference against bottom six sides!

Bournemouth are 3rd

[cropstonfox]

Hes always looked good against lower level opposition.

He is a decent Championship level winger at best.He will serve us well next year(if we keep puel at the helm)