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MrLuke

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He’s clearly doing something right; if I was shite at a job and it was well known, I wouldn’t expect to move on to a potentially better job. He maybe just a yes-man who gives the managers he works for what they want, rather than what they need. Friends in high places and all that.

 

 

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9 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

The problem could be that to get Rodgers, the club had to promise him that he would have free reign to bring in staff as he sees fit.

 

Head of Recruitment should be nothing to do with the manager. It's one thing letting him bring in a coach or assistant that you don't rate but Head of Recruitment should ultimately be a decision left to the highest level.

 

In the modern game I'm a great believer in horses for courses. Gone are the days when a manager ran a club from top to bottom and scouted his own players. I want my manager to be a brilliant tactician and a fantastic man manager, that's it. Recruitment should be a separate department that works alongside the manager but not taking instructions from him. The manager should not be selecting his own Head of Recruitment just like in the workplace that you don't have a say in who the person you work next to is.

 

Get the best manager in you can and independently get the best Head of Recruitment in you can and let them work together without one being boss of the other. 

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28 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

Head of Recruitment should be nothing to do with the manager. It's one thing letting him bring in a coach or assistant that you don't rate but Head of Recruitment should ultimately be a decision left to the highest level.

 

In the modern game I'm a great believer in horses for courses. Gone are the days when a manager ran a club from top to bottom and scouted his own players. I want my manager to be a brilliant tactician and a fantastic man manager, that's it. Recruitment should be a separate department that works alongside the manager but not taking instructions from him. The manager should not be selecting his own Head of Recruitment just like in the workplace that you don't have a say in who the person you work next to is.

 

Get the best manager in you can and independently get the best Head of Recruitment in you can and let them work together without one being boss of the other. 

I'm torn on this, I believe a lot of problems have occurred in recent years between the way managers are expected to work within a football club and by having staff around them that they haven't brought in themselves has caused the demise of many. But at the same time, football is moving on and in the right set up the segregation of duties and who reports to who means it's wise that the club recruit certain staff rather than the manager. Pearson obviously brought all his own staff in bar the Director of Football role, he is old school and it definitely worked in building a great set up here. Since then we haven't achieved anywhere near as much cohesion off the pitch, the more money we have had hasn't resulted in a better set up.

 

I think a common sense approach should be taken where the manager might be asked of his opinion on such staff being appointed but that the decision isn't made by the manager himself.

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37 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

Head of Recruitment should be nothing to do with the manager. It's one thing letting him bring in a coach or assistant that you don't rate but Head of Recruitment should ultimately be a decision left to the highest level.

 

In the modern game I'm a great believer in horses for courses. Gone are the days when a manager ran a club from top to bottom and scouted his own players. I want my manager to be a brilliant tactician and a fantastic man manager, that's it. Recruitment should be a separate department that works alongside the manager but not taking instructions from him. The manager should not be selecting his own Head of Recruitment just like in the workplace that you don't have a say in who the person you work next to is.

 

Get the best manager in you can and independently get the best Head of Recruitment in you can and let them work together without one being boss of the other. 

Next you will have Brendon choosing Leicester's DOF.

Oh I didn't realise he already has, heard him and Rudkin have been mates for 20 odd years! 

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9 minutes ago, Dames said:

Tell you what if his job is to go and find the next Coutinho or Neymar then by all means he can go do it. Just don't give him free reign to go and sign anyone he wants.

Badly want us to sign a Brazilian, David Neres would be unreal or that Wesley at Club Brugge would do.

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6 minutes ago, Dames said:

Tell you what if his job is to go and find the next Coutinho or Neymar then by all means he can go do it. Just don't give him free reign to go and sign anyone he wants.

Anyone with an ounce of football knowledge or common sense would be able to pick out a Neymar, Coutinho or even a Ronaldo or Agueiro from a group of players, the man was hardly an insightful scouting genius for picking out players of such ilk. It's about the picking up of players like Vardy, Marhez and Kante. Looking at the teams he's previously been employed by, namely Sunderland and Celtic, can you point out any such gems to me please? Then, on a rough percentage basis, how many of the players he had purchased for other clubs  have turned out to be unsuccessful and have subsequently had to eventually be resold. If you or someone else is able to supply those figures we would probably have evidence of whether he would or wouldn't be potentially successful at our club.

 

You would like to think that our board would do something like this and, IF Rodgers is actually wanting him to come and those results are stunningly negative, he should then be asked why in his opinion, with those figures before him, he feels he would be successful here as facts are facts.  He should then in no uncertain terms be told that it is not his money and future he's risking and therefore it won't be happening as it makes no viable financial sense whatsoever and this is a business, not a club for friends to employ friends.

 

I'm absolutely for a manager saying that he requires a particular type of player like an attacking or defensive midfielder etc and even give an example. He should also be consulted if and when such suitable candidates are found to get his opinion on which one he may prefer. This method also negates a club of buying too many of one type of player or one that is unsuitable for a manager to fulfil his desired system of play or tactics. An example may be like buying Slimani and Musa when we had a solid number 9 in Vardy when ideally we needed a  specialist number 10. Or, like Everton buying about half a dozen number 10's and still no specialist number 9. Ludicrous. Surely it's about consultation and teamwork. 

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43 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Steve Walsh had a sketchy record at Newcastle lets not forget. I'll judge him on what he does here.

What era was that, I know he's been talked about being up there but I can't remember. Was it under Bobby Robson?

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53 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Badly want us to sign a Brazilian, David Neres would be unreal or that Wesley at Club Brugge would do.

If we signed Neres i'd be over the moon. Watched him live once and it was like Ronaldinho levels of shithousery against defenders! Proper Harlem Globetrotters stuff.

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27 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

It’s a big difference because he’s been bad everywhere he’s been lol 

Was he a disaster for Chelsea? Arnesen saw enough in him after his stint there to take him to Hamburg with him. Rodgers enough to take him around with him. At Sunderland he was basically director of football and in sole charge, he wouldn't be here. People can be promoted above their station, see Walsh at Everton.

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2 hours ago, Gerard said:

 

Head of Recruitment should be nothing to do with the manager. It's one thing letting him bring in a coach or assistant that you don't rate but Head of Recruitment should ultimately be a decision left to the highest level.

 

In the modern game I'm a great believer in horses for courses. Gone are the days when a manager ran a club from top to bottom and scouted his own players. I want my manager to be a brilliant tactician and a fantastic man manager, that's it. Recruitment should be a separate department that works alongside the manager but not taking instructions from him. The manager should not be selecting his own Head of Recruitment just like in the workplace that you don't have a say in who the person you work next to is.

 

Get the best manager in you can and independently get the best Head of Recruitment in you can and let them work together without one being boss of the other. 

That's why accountability should always be with the DOF. Then we can all, in unity, point our finger in one direction. Anything to make our lives easier.

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12 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Hugely naive this is, the warning signs are there and not from his time at Celtic. Hamburg was a huge disaster, then Sunderland even worse. 

 

Put it this way, if he came here and was as bad here as previous then we would have no excuses and only ourselves to blame. There is absolutely no need to take a punt on someone with this poor a record, that's the bottom line. We arent a struggling club, with very little money and a damaged reputation. We have a very ambitious owner, who is one of the best in football and off the field we seem to be operating a bit more savvier after a few years of making some big mistakes. Let's not bury our heads in the sand, if we need a new head of recruitment get someone with a very good track record for where we want to be as a club.

I really respect what you have to say on here mate, but I honestly don't think it is Naive.

 

All he can do is recommend players... it's worth taking a look at the managers he worked under at Sunderland

 

Gus Poyet (Off his trolley)

Dick Advocat (Useless)

Sam Allardyce (Jobs for the boys and a load of cloggers)

David Moyes (Worked with him towards the end of his time at Sunderland... the place was a state)


Who is to say he's not recommended a tonne of gems to that group, and they've just gone off and done their own thing? Those managers are all pretty well known for going off and running the show on their own!

 

 

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