Meat and 2 veg Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, NewquayFox said: At what point of the transfer window did Drinkwater go to Chelsea? 15 seconds before we signed Silva 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 7 minutes ago, Chrysalis said: Agreed, timing is more important than 20million in my view. If we sell now I would consider it failed strategy. Fancy there is more than transfer strategy involved in every transfer window. Very complex time would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7302565/Transfer-News-Manchester-United-eye-46m-Barcelona-star-Samuel-Umtiti.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 3 minutes ago, NewquayFox said: At what point of the transfer window did Drinkwater go to Chelsea? After the window closed. They had to apply for a few hours’ extension to complete it, but didn’t run into the same issues as Silva due to it being a domestic transfer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, FoxinNotts said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7302565/Transfer-News-Manchester-United-eye-46m-Barcelona-star-Samuel-Umtiti.html Minus the fact a lot of this is bollocks, Prem players are incredibly over inflated in terms of price 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 hour ago, richieboy said: Maguire from reports is losing patience with the club. i assume losing patience with Man U because it seems they have known all along how much Leicester want and keep stalling on the amount and either wont or don't want to pay what Leicester want. If they wont pay then tough he stays. Not sure why he’s losing patience with us. He’s aware of the terms that need to be met for his transfer. The interested parties haven’t met those terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 20 minutes ago, mozartfox said: May be we sign Webster and dump Dunk? Cheaper younger OPTION and like Dunk no better than we have. Waste much less money. Might be tricky Not been seen for a while 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayFox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, brucey said: After the window closed. They had to apply for a few hours’ extension to complete it, but didn’t run into the same issues as Silva due to it being a domestic transfer. Cheers, I knew it was late but not that bloomin late and left us short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutlanderFox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 hour ago, Detroit Blues said: When you do the math it might not make economic sense. Let's assume we sell Maguire late in the window, and do not have time to secure a replacement (and get him up to speed) until next summer: Based on @Xen 80m - 17m = 63m profit. (The £17m is ours to keep) 15% of 63m = 9.45m sell-on fee to Hull 80m - 9.45m = 70.55m into Leicester's coffers. Then let's say the difference in keeping Maguire vs losing him is finishing 6th vs 10th (My personal assumption): Prize Money 6th - £28.5million 10th - £20.9million Difference = £7.6million So £70.55M Reduced by £7.6M in prize money (6th vs 10th place finish) = £62.95M Facility Fee (money earned from # of TV matches) Big 6 clubs host more TV games than other 14 clubs, regardless of what happens in the table, but each additional TV appearance was worth about £1.13M. Let's assume Leicester are on TV 4 more times minimum = £4.5M £62.95M Reduced by £4.5M in Facility Fees (6th vs 10th place finish) = £58.45M Europa League Finishing 6th would qualify us for the group stage: Participation Bonus €2.6 million (Guaranteed) for each 40 teams who play in the group stages Performance Bonus €570,000 for every win & €190,000 for a draw Group Stage Bonus €1 million to group winners and €500,000 for group runnerups At minimum, we'd be looking at £2.3M just for showing up and losing each game of the group stage. At best, we'd make £6.43M for winning the group (and each game). If we continued a run through the Europa League, it would be possible to win up to £20-30M in the competition. But let's just be conservative, and say we won £5M in the Europa League, including the prize money, the ticket sales, the extra merchandise, etc. £58.45M Reduced by £5M in Europa League money = £53.45 So that £53M is what we'd have to spend to replace a premier league, international team quality centerback. Meanwhile, we just wasted a year of having Maddison, Vardy, Tielemans, etc. all under a manager like Brendan Rodgers. I get your logic and like it when someone breaks down their argument like this but I have to disagree with you (except with your last sentence). It’s not all about the finances involved in transfer fees. IF keeping Maguire is the difference between us qualifying for Europa League or not then having European football could be what keeps him and others linked with moves away at the club and makes them believe that they can truly develop here. It would also enable us (with the help of the new training ground and stadium expansion) to attract players of the ilk of Youri Tielemans to the club. It’s one thing having enough money left over from any Maguire deal to buy “a Tielemans and 2 Evans” or whatever but those players actually wanting to come here would be less likely. We all know a big part of Tielemans joining permanently was because he knew from having been inside the club for a period that the ambition was genuine and he could achieve what he wanted to here. Besides Evans also isn’t really worth £3m despite that being what we paid for him. You get a League one defender for that price. It would also be a bad message if we are saying our key players are ready to be cherry picked by the top 6. We’re serious about our ambition so we should not sell him especially at this stage of the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 hour ago, richieboy said: Maguire from reports is losing patience with the club. i assume losing patience with Man U because it seems they have known all along how much Leicester want and keep stalling on the amount and either wont or don't want to pay what Leicester want. If they wont pay then tough he stays. Tyre kickers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 4 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7302565/Transfer-News-Manchester-United-eye-46m-Barcelona-star-Samuel-Umtiti.html The report claims that the United are willing to spend €50m (£46m) on Umtiti, although Barcelona's asking price is €60m (£55m). Sounds familiar! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, Silva Fox said: The report claims that the United are willing to spend €50m (£46m) on Umtiti, although Barcelona's asking price is €60m (£55m). Sounds familiar! I know right! Just pay someone the asking price, you prize plums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwl fox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Dorkingfox said: Man U fans seen in Norway friendly with Maguire shirts??? Well that's never gone wrong for anyone before!! arsenal fan in mahrez shirt - Google Search arsenal fan in mahrez shirt - Google Search Edited 30 July 2019 by nwl fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueharmie Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Play this right and he could be at man city next season and win things. He should stay for now and then next season take that step up . Man United are not that next step and won't be for the considerable future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 48 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: This'll be me if we don't sell Maguire... And if we do... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 The above is just not smug enough. We can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxpleasure Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 8 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: The above is just not smug enough. We can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 2 hours ago, Kegworthfox said: 2 hours ago, joachim1965 said: Cockwomble ??? Could his (the guy with the Utd shirt on before any smart-arses reply!) name not just be Maguire . It's not much of an uncommon name...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanSP Posted 30 July 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 30 July 2019 @Trav Le Bleu @ARM1968 this is smug enough! This could also apply to Top and Rudkin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: Could his (the guy with the Utd shirt on before any smart-arses reply!) name not just be Maguire . It's not much of an uncommon name...! I hope his name is Maguire and Harry goes man city.might want to leave his shirt at home then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 4 minutes ago, StanSP said: Could his (the guy with the Utd shirt on before any smart-arses reply!) name not just be Maguire . It's not much of an uncommon name...! Possible, but he also has a number 5 on his back, so you would think it's a Harry shirt. I hope so anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, WarehamFox said: Travis I know you and you could never look that attractive. Not in a dress. Edited 30 July 2019 by Trav Le Bleu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 6 hours ago, Nod.E said: Could be a load of rubbish but a coworker reckons he has a mate who works in United's medical staff and that he's heard the hold up is how much cash up front we want. Apparently we want £80M with £72M up front. No idea if my coworker is winding me up because he's a United fan, but there you go. He’s winding you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said: This'll be me if we don't sell Maguire... You're going to become Quentin Crisp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 minute ago, Buce said: You're going to become Quentin Crisp? If that's what it takes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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