Demarai Gray

[Ric Flair]

If we were offered anywhere north of £15m for him this summer i'd take it.

[danfox76]

Harvey Barnes stats

Soccer player

1. Championship

    

   Year	Matches	Goals	Assists
   2018-19	26	9	6	1	0

   Football League Cup

    

   Year	Matches	Goals	Assists
   2018-19	2	0	1	0	0

    

    

    

   Harvey Barnes Championship league goals and assists versus Demarai Gray

    

    

   Demarai Gray stats

   Soccer player

   Championship

    

   Year	Matches	Goals	Assists
   2015-16	24	1	1	1	0
   2014-15	41	6	1	2	0

   Football League Cup

    

   Year	Matches	Goals	Assists
   2015-16	2	0	0	0	0
   2014-15	1	0	0	0	0

[TheUltimateWinner]

I’ve wanted him to push on for about 3 years now... don’t want to write him off but that statement sort of says it all

[BenTheFox]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

If we were offered anywhere north of £15m for him this summer i'd take it.

£20m for me, otherwise I'd give him one last chance. That chance being the first half of next season. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

This thread is awfully harsh on the guy. He's a positive member of the team otherwise he wouldn't be in the first 11 simple as that. 

 

If he was that bad he wouldn't be a starter and if there was no replacement the formation would change to accommodate another player. 

 

I know Harvey Barnes had better stats but that doesn't make Gray worse.

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This thread is awfully harsh on the guy. He's a positive member of the team otherwise he wouldn't be in the first 11 simple as that. 

 

If he was that bad he wouldn't be a starter and if there was no replacement the formation would change to accommodate another player. 

 

I know Harvey Barnes had better stats but that doesn't make Gray worse.

 

 

Realistically, he's starting because there's no alternative. Mahrez is gone, Albrighton's been injured, Ghezzal hasn't really done much, Barnes hasn't been here for half the season, we can't push Ricardo forwards because Amartey is injured. Him starting says a lot more about our squad and our failure to recruit a good winger in the summer than it does about him.

Edited 24 April 2019 by Guest

[fuchsntf]

33 minutes ago, Guest said:

Realistically, he's starting because there's no alternative. Mahrez is gone, Albrighton's been injured, Ghezzal hasn't really done much, Barnes hasn't been here for half a season, we can't push Ricardo forwards because Amartey is injured. Him starting says a lot more about our squad and our failure to recruit a good winger in the summer than it does about him.

I think it says a lot about our fans...!!

none of you   us can pick a player  !!

And these last few seasons,..we have forgot how to support and encourage our young players!!

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

I think it says a lot about our fans...!!

none of you   us can pick a player  !!

And these last few seasons,..we have forgot how to support and encourage our young players!!

I'm not saying he's a bad player, just that "he's starting therefore he's good" doesn't really add up when you think of who he's actually starting ahead of. I think he's a perfectly adequate squad player but isn't really good enough to be a first choice winger in a team chasing European qualification. 

 

He's been broadly supported and encouraged for the past couple of seasons but people are understandably getting frustrated because he's showing little to no signs of progression or improvement. Yeah he's young but it's not like he's some kid out of the academy experiencing his first steps in football, is it? He made his senior debut five-and-a-half years ago and he's played over 100 games for us. Chilwell and Barnes have made far more progress over the past year than he has over the past three since we signed him.

[Haywood_6]

How long is left on his contract?

[FLAN]

50 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

How long is left on his contract?

Didn’t he sign a new one when Bournemouth were after him?  Probably here to keep James company 

[leicesterseddon]

I’d take £15m but can’t see anyone offering that for him tbh. 

[Dan LCFC]

5 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

I think it says a lot about our fans...!!

none of you   us can pick a player  !!

And these last few seasons,..we have forgot how to support and encourage our young players!!

Happy to revisit this in 9 months.

[Tanya]

7 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This thread is awfully harsh on the guy. He's a positive member of the team otherwise he wouldn't be in the first 11 simple as that. 

 

If he was that bad he wouldn't be a starter and if there was no replacement the formation would change to accommodate another player. 

 

I know Harvey Barnes had better stats but that doesn't make Gray worse.

 

 

I rewatched the West Ham game and the guy was awful. Gave the ball away, misplaced passes, ran into Vardy's space and sometimes didn't run at all. He wasn’t the only one to play poorly but it crystallized my frustration with him. Even when he plays well (Huddersfield I think) he fluffs chances. He is woeful in front of goal. Yes he is young but so is Wilf, Harvey, Madders (who has on the whole been brilliant for us) Chilly and Youri. Those players have thrived and are supported and lauded by the fans. Frankly, it shouldn't take three years to bed in. He is still making so many silly errors. That's why I think we should sell. We should be out in the market aggressively finding his replacement.  Then if we get a decent offer move him and if not, well, I do think Gray is often better off the bench.

 

But yeah.  I would love to be proven wrong but this was Gray's big chance to prove he belongs in the top half of the Prem and so far he has fluffed his lines. 

Edited 24 April 2019 by Tanya

[MelbourneFox88]

I feel for him as I did for Jeff Schlupp. Somewhere in there is potential, but it’s not being tapped in to, and he relies more on spur of the moment choices than a broader understanding of the game around him, leading to not the kind of progression we need from him. 

 

 

[foxinsocks]

2 minutes ago, MelbourneFox88 said:

I feel for him as I did for Jeff Schlupp. Somewhere in there is potential, but it’s not being tapped in to, and he relies more on spur of the moment choices than a broader understanding of the game around him, leading to not the kind of progression we need from him. 

 

 

To develop decision making takes effort. I  have previously described how this is done.  Anyone can do it.  Damari has not.  Maybe its the club maybe its him.  He will not progress intil he addresses this issue.  Schlupp had different issues primarily about deciding where he should specialise 

[danfox76]

9 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This thread is awfully harsh on the guy. He's a positive member of the team otherwise he wouldn't be in the first 11 simple as that. 

 

If he was that bad he wouldn't be a starter and if there was no replacement the formation would change to accommodate another player. 

 

I know Harvey Barnes had better stats but that doesn't make Gray worse.

 

 

but it does mean that Barnes has more affect on a game and Demarai has less affect as far as goals and assists go.. which is the job he's paid very well to do after all.

[fuchsntf]

8 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Happy to revisit this in 9 months.

Perhaps a player moves on,but so long as a young player wears the Foxes badge..he gets my support & encouragement..plus he does well for us,but posters go OTT,because he doesn't shine!! 5 times these last few weeks he's set up damn good scoring chances for a teammate,they have failed to convert,so no assist goes to his credit,and then overlooked by fans,and he isn't alone...Ghezzal or Albright on even Periera..have put it in possible assist,where either Vardy,or another teammate has fluffed the conversion,or the move has fizzled out!!

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[Simoken]

I'm going to stand by Demarai, hes proven his maturity recently after a few dodgy moments in past seasons of doing a 'Riyad' but he has just stuck in and worked hard. Funny how a few goals can change perspective of a fan.

[fuchsntf]

4 minutes ago, Simoken said:

I'm going to stand by Demarai, hes proven his maturity recently after a few dodgy moments in past seasons of doing a 'Riyad' but he has just stuck in and worked hard. Funny how a few goals can change perspective of a fan.

Some fans are impatient,and change their perspective every 1-2 weeks!!

[FoxFossil]

Good coaching can improve players awareness. Stirling is the obvious example under Pep. I'd give him one more year under Brendan and then the argument will be over, one way or another.

[Flappit]

Watch the moment in the West Ham game early on when Vardy heads the ball back to Maddison, who cuts inside and hits a weak-ish left foot shot. Gray tosses his head in frustration that Maddison didn't pass to him (even though he was standing pretty much behind the defence by then) and, more tellingly, doesn't even follow the ball in. Every attacking player in the world knows you follow the ball in, just in case the keeper spills it, but Gray couldn't be bothered or it didn't even occur to him.  Admittedly Maddison could have passed to him earlier in the move but equally Gray could have made more room for Maddison's shot by making a more intelligent run to drag a defender wide instead of straight into the path of Maddison's shot.  He just doesn't have the basics right and shows no sign of wanting to work hard to correct it.  He needs to be loaned out or sold, for me.

[Ric Flair]

17 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This thread is awfully harsh on the guy. He's a positive member of the team otherwise he wouldn't be in the first 11 simple as that. 

 

If he was that bad he wouldn't be a starter and if there was no replacement the formation would change to accommodate another player. 

 

I know Harvey Barnes had better stats but that doesn't make Gray worse.

 

 

8 goals and 5 assists in 3.5 seasons is abysmal for a winger. His days are numbered if he doesn't improve, if you read between the lines it's been made perfectly clear by Rodgers. The same goes for Ghezzal, Albrighton and Barnes. We cannot afford to carry players with very little end product if we want to be a top 6 club.

[gerrytaggart]

Someone mentioned during the Newcastle game that his positioning is very questionable...when we needed width he was drifting in... The commentator said he was marking himself.  Very frustrating. 

[fuchsntf]

14 minutes ago, FoxFossil said:

Good coaching can improve players awareness. Stirling is the obvious example under Pep. I'd give him one more year under Brendan and then the argument will be over, one way or another.

Agree,let's see what the new platform brings..at 23 he's still got time to learn,even more( in football terms)

at 25 we could have a quality high class play..it's too early to give up on him

Edited 25 April 2019 by fuchsntf

[Babylon]

18 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This thread is awfully harsh on the guy. He's a positive member of the team otherwise he wouldn't be in the first 11 simple as that. 

 

If he was that bad he wouldn't be a starter and if there was no replacement the formation would change to accommodate another player. 

 

I know Harvey Barnes had better stats but that doesn't make Gray worse.

 

 

That doesn't make much sense considering that we've had no other real options of late. A manager isn't going to change his entire outlook on how he wants to play because one player isn't quite good enough. He's just going to sign someone else to replace him and has already said he wants a winger. He'll be lucky to be third choice next season, more likely 4th.