bfox Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Lindeloff got his arm around samattas neck.. nothing made of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 (edited) If the referee is unsure and/or wants to see an incident again, he should have a right to access a dugout VAR video screen and assess it in his own time there. Not just rely get decisions from external people from some car park office block container that aren't present in the stadium. Edited 9 July 2020 by Wymsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 2 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Does our form stay bad if we get the penalties i've mentioned? No, not for me. Maybe not, the Man City game was the worst with us having two clear penalties turned down and theirs being given. Just have to hope we can go all out in the last four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXSE Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 11 minutes ago, FOXSE said: This used to happen all the time for united in the 90s and 00s. In a tricky game, not getting the breakthrough, given a penalty. Go on to win 3-0 or so and people basically say the first goal didn't really matter.... Yes, it was like this: talk about the subsequent goal and how they 'deserved' the lead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechey Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Villa are so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: It’s not though is it. If there’s an agenda somewhere to fix games in their favour it’s not going to have started in the last few weeks is it. Only here could this even be a discussion 😂 You all sound like this bloke Started years ago when Alex Ferguson used to harass referees. Never seen any other manager do it like him. Edited 9 July 2020 by Fox92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 So you're telling me that the officials on VAR - who are supposed to be professionals of the very highest level - are actually this inept? It honestly can't be possible. Game's ****ed. It's nowhere near a one off incident this either. Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist and it seems absurd to even suggest it, but I'm convinced it's corrupt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Just now, RowlattsFox said: Every club in the league thinks the FA has an agenda against them but it is getting increasingly difficult to not think the referees are biased with decisions, they probably don't even realise they're doing it. That’s a fair comment, to claim there is some sort of deliberate agenda is something very different. Might as well just rename this place the fighting fox and accuse them of taking PEDS while we are at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 6 minutes ago, Paddy. said: Agree. I hate that about modern football, being a cheat is now being 'clever'. There's nothing clever about cheating to win a pen. Agree and disagree at the same time. Your comment should be correct. But when they're all at it and getting away with it, you're a bit naive to not get involved. And that's what I think we are at times. That's not to say we'd get as many given as United, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Goober said: So you're telling me that the officials on VAR - who are supposed to be professionals of the very highest level - are actually this inept? It honestly can't be possible. Game's ****ed. It's nowhere near a one off incident this either. Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist and it seems absurd to even suggest it, but I'm convinced it's corrupt. Yes essentially. Its not the first time this has happened is it, there are bizarre decisions made in every major international tournament and in one league or another in Europe most weeks. Its sad but it just does not work. Edited 9 July 2020 by Manwell Pablo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Just now, FOXSE said: Yes, it was like this: talk about the subsequent goal and how they 'deserved' the lead... Tells you everything you need to know about Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 This is more like a friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 4 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: Every club in the league thinks the FA has an agenda against them but it is getting increasingly difficult to not think the referees are biased with decisions, they probably don't even realise they're doing it. This is probably close to it ....refs are star struck ..... Bruno Fernandes and konsa ..... must be the clogger who has fouled him ...... and the VAR is impotent ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 On 08/07/2020 at 21:14, The Horse's Mouth said: I dont agree with him, but tbf to him he does make some good points. The more clubs continue to expand into pure businesses and are being used in the case of Man City to sportswash an entire country on their human rights issue .etc. it does make you think how far does blind loyalty go are you willing to be a contributing factor in that or turn a blind eye and say i only care about the football. I dont think I personally could ever switch alleigenace though. Say our owners killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people by bombing and starving them to death while killing women for being raped etc etc Would you still want to give them your money and time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 4 minutes ago, Wymsey said: If the referee is unsure and/or wants to see an incident again, he should have a right to access a dugout VAR video screen and assess it in his own time there. Not just rely get decisions from external people from some car park office block container that aren't present in the stadium. I don't understand how Stockley park checking over and over again and subsequently worrying about the on-pitch ref's feelings is any quicker than the on-pitch ref just jogging over to the screen immediately after any penalty decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesfromlondonLCFC Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 united must have VAR in the pay roll man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 'I can understand why it's given'. Absolute bollocks. What is understandable about it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCJ Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 (edited) I am seriously worried if it comes down to the last game of the season. Not even that man united are the better side but just the fact that the amount of bias there is towards them and the ‘big 6’. I can see them getting a dodgy penalty like earlier in the season which cost us. Edited 9 July 2020 by LCFCJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 At least in the olden days a the ref would try amend a refereeing howler by 'evening things up'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Just now, StanSP said: 'I can understand why it's given'. Absolute bollocks. What is understandable about it?! I can understand why it's given. I can understand why they get one given every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onekeithweller Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 3 minutes ago, Nod.E said: Agree and disagree at the same time. Your comment should be correct. But when they're all at it and getting away with it, you're a bit naive to not get involved. And that's what I think we are at times. That's not to say we'd get as many given as United, of course. Moss would have sent Vardy off for that, not given a pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 2 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Yes essentially. Its not the first time this has happened is it, there are bizarre decisions made in every major international tournament and in one league or another in Europe most weeks. Its sad but it just does not work. It's one or the other for me, and both answers are seriously depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Surprised Man Utd aren't 3-0 up after that. No doubt VAR were trying to find out how Pogba didn't touch it or wasn't offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest seanfox778 Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 0-3 Pogba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 Oh that’s a good finish though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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