UniFox21 Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Just now, st albans fox said: Ole trained by the best ....SAF ..... He's actually been incredibly clever and reignited the weird United fans by coming out with lines using "We're Man United" or "The United Way" as weird adjectives which of course the thick bastards love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 10 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: He's actually been incredibly clever and reignited the weird United fans by coming out with lines using "We're Man United" or "The United Way" as weird adjectives which of course the thick bastards love He wasn't that clever the other day - said Lampard hadn't gotten under his skin then went on a weird Benitez "fact" inspired scripted rant about all the decisions he'd kept a note of. Mission accomplished from Frank's point of view, refs will be warier and Solskjaer threw a weird fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 13 penos and 7 chalked off is a disgrace though what team gets that many in one season, I bet most have came in the second half of the season as well as they where shit for the 1st part. corruption at the highest level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFox Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said: 13 penos and 7 chalked off is a disgrace though what team gets that many in one season, I bet most have came in the second half of the season as well as they where shit for the 1st part. corruption at the highest level. That is a lot of pivotal moments that have gone their way... Anyone have a league table of VAR decisions going for/against? Be fascinated to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFox Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 2 minutes ago, CloudFox said: That is a lot of pivotal moments that have gone their way... Anyone have a league table of VAR decisions going for/against? Be fascinated to see it. Found one: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club United way way above the chasing pack there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 2 minutes ago, CloudFox said: Found one: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club United way way above the chasing pack there. Fergievision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Interesting that Liverpool have only had one more favourable decision then us. Must have had some obvious ones overturned against them as they've had a lot of the rub of the green on VAR. I feel sorry for Wolves the most. Could and probably should have beaten us but we were saved by VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 13 minutes ago, CloudFox said: Found one: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club United way way above the chasing pack there. The thing with this is that it whilst it shows how teams have benefited/suffered with VAR existing and does attempt to make an assessment on whether the decision was right or wrong, it can't definitively show who's been on the end of good/bad VAR decisions. It's good it lists out the incidents there but it says that the Nketiah and Bertrand red cards went for us as did Iheanacho's offside goal against Everton. Yet all those decisions were pretty straightforward so it's hardly like we gained an advantage from it, we just didn't gain a disadvantage. You've then got the incidents on there that are highly dubious and should have had a different decision, how are they deciding who or hasn't benefitted? And finally, what about the ones that VAR didn't look at or did and decided to take no action? Basically, the implementation of VAR has been an absolute joke 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 11 hours ago, Facecloth said: But of we can finish 6th, so can Man Utd too, surely? VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 It’s funny, some on Red Cafe still want rid of VAR despite them being the clear beneficiaries of it’s implementation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: It’s funny, some on Red Cafe still want rid of VAR despite them being the clear beneficiaries of it’s implementation Must have a preference for bent reffing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 9 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Must have a preference for bent reffing Might just be what they got accustomed to when they had Fergie as their boss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 I loved the bit when Ole was dismissing the fact that Utd haven't benefitted from VAR by saying "But, but, but Mark Noble should have been sent off when we lost to West Ham". Clown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 What this table does not include are all the clear and obvious brown envelope jobs, such as the Saha peno last week which was not given and not spotted by the Stichyou Park Muppetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 15 hours ago, Goober said: If Bamford is starting for Leeds next season they're finished Just hope they don't do a Villa and spend nearly a £100m on players that have failed to improve the team and in serious danger of relegation. Have no sympathy for Villa on this front, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanolegend1989 Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Man Utd’s 2 ‘against’ decisions were probably 2 of the biggest jokes to even be given in the first place. Abamayang was so far onside it was embarrassing and then Fernandes’ pen given at Spurs was the biggest joke too. So to me these don’t count. Utd havnt had 1 close decision against them imo. With us, out the top of my mind, the only decision from VAR that I felt lucky was Vs Burnley at home. Lucky not to be 2-2. Other then that, every VAR decision we got ‘For’ was not even a question anyway. Nachos was so clear onside it’s hardly us ‘benefiting’ from it. They should sort VAR out by scrapping anything to do with hand balls unless it’s on purpose but none of these silly ones that are accidental. Pens wise not so soft. Too many soft pens like fernandes vs villa or pogba vs Tottenham . And finally offsides, they should give benefit of doubt to attackers imo. Too many good goals ruled out. They should give 5cm ‘daylight’. Every time the lines go up the computer works out how much further the last part of the attackers body is From the defenders. The computer could work out instantly and if it’s less than 5cm it’s a goal. This lee way will make it a matter of fact and not a perception that could be biast. Neto vs Liverpool Pukki vs Tottenham ayew vs Man utd King vs Man City a few examples of goals that should stand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: It’s funny, some on Red Cafe still want rid of VAR despite them being the clear beneficiaries of it’s implementation Which is admirable. Even when it directly benefits us I hate it, part of the problem is fans can’t look at the bigger picture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 33 minutes ago, Stadt said: Which is admirable. Even when it directly benefits us I hate it, part of the problem is fans can’t look at the bigger picture Or perhaps they don’t believe or know they have been a prime beneficiary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Or perhaps they don’t believe or know they have been a prime beneficiary Possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Leeds Fox Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Just now, Facecloth said: Madness Well I hope Bournemouth stay up at their expense now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 16:52, Nalis said: Know its low on priority in this evening's games but Everton v Villa, thoughts? I reckon a draw. Ridiculous. They were so far adrift when he took the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: Madness They want that new manager bounce again maybe nige didn’t want the gig next year and thinks his stock has risen so could get a better job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Just now, Stevosevic said: Ridiculous. They were so far adrift when he took the job. Think you quoted me by mistake. But if you are talking about Pearson then I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 19 July 2020 Share Posted 19 July 2020 Just now, Facecloth said: Madness Snakesssssssssss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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