Nicolo Barella Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Barnes is great, but I think his big issue right now is he isn't the kind of winger that can bring a striker into a game, he's the kind of winger that needs a striker to bring him into the game. If he was playing for Wolves I think he would be having a much better season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lambert09 Posted 29 June 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 29 June 2020 (edited) Wow can’t beleive what I’m reading. Barnes had completely turned the corner before lockdown and was showing what he could do. He is just simply in preseason mode, nothing more to it. If youre writing people off based on a few games after a pandemic than you really need to give your head a wobble. Edited 29 June 2020 by Lambert09 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said: Barnes is great, but I think his big issue right now is he isn't the kind of winger that can bring a striker into a game, he's the kind of winger that needs a striker to bring him into the game. If he was playing for Wolves I think he would be having a much better season. Thats our biggest problem...All our individual players would have a better season,playing for Wolves or Another team...At present they just cant bring it together In a Leicester shirt for the Last Part of this season... we foxes fans are cursed...We should all agree to Split up,and become A.Villa,Forest,Derby,or Wolves fans... Edited 29 June 2020 by fuchsntf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 9 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Thats our biggest problem...All our individual players would have a better season,playing for Wolves or Another team...At present they just cant bring it together In a Leicester shirt for the Last Part of this season... we foxes fans are cursed...We should all agree to Split up,and become A.Villa,Forest,Derby,or Wolves fans... Lol. I just meant Jimenez would be better for Barnes than Vardy is. Barnes has managed to get quite a few assists for Vardy and played him in nicely several times but a forward that could pass back to him as he cuts inside would unlock more of his ability I feel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 (edited) I think he's got potential but he looks way behind someone like Todd Cantwell who's younger than him in his development. And I cant see Cantwell ever becoming more than a good mid-table winger who'll get 2 or 3 England caps a la Leon Osman or Andros Townsend or someone. I think Barnes could become a mid-table Premier League winger but he's missing too many attributes to push on from there. Edited 29 June 2020 by Sampson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Barnes, can be a key player when at his best, can drive a game. But he does seem to have a lot of games as well where you forget he is on the pitch. But because of his capability he should be a player we prioritise for giving the ball to. When he gets it, he needs that drive to beat his man, he had that earlier in the season but now seems to play a safe pass more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 I love Barnes but it's fairly clear to see his first touch is his real weakness. I know some of his finishing has been poor in the last year or so but he's proven at all other levels that actually his finishing is pretty impressive. The step up to the Prem gives players less time on the ball and I think he's suffered a lack of composure and confidence at times but that will improve. He really needs to work on his first touch and awareness, they are the two things that i'm worried could continue to expose him but that said I still think he is destined to be an above average player at this level without much improvement. I am desperate for him to kick on and be a superstar though and that's where the progression is still needed. His first touch yesterday was grotesque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 I think he'll thrive next season once Chilwell has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Just now, Blue and white said: I think he'll thrive next season once Chilwell has moved on. They certainly don't seem to be in sync together. I know Villa were garbage when we beat them 4-0 before the pandemic suspended football but he was scintillating with Justin behind him. Both worked in unison either overlapping or one cutting inside and drawing the opposition out but with Chilwell they both seem to struggle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Just now, Ric Flair said: They certainly don't seem to be in sync together. I know Villa were garbage when we beat them 4-0 before the pandemic suspended football but he was scintillating with Justin behind him. Both worked in unison either overlapping or one cutting inside and drawing the opposition out but with Chilwell they both seem to struggle. I've said it a few times already but this makes it even more bizarre that we aren't trying him from the right, with Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Harsh to write him off. Sure his first touch and shooting can be poor but he still makes stuff happen, moreso than all our other players except our right back. Alternatives are Perez who is not a winger, Gray who has a good 30 minutes every season and Albrighton who seems programmed to cross, even if 1 in 1000 actually manages to get to someone. This is still his first full Prem season in a side where the players and coaching staff are struggling for confidence and don't know what the **** they're doing. If Barnes really is not good enough then we need at least 3 new winger signings this Summer, minimum 100m spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 5 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: I've said it a few times already but this makes it even more bizarre that we aren't trying him from the right, with Justin. Barnes is not a right midfielder, tried a few times this season and he's been pulled at half time. He's spent his whole career on the left apart from the loan at MK Don's. He may be right footed but look at Mahrez his natural position is on the right despite being left footed it's the same for Barnes on the other side. As for Justin he also seems more comfortable on the left, can see why Luton had him there now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Pre season should just be him stood with a ball firing machine smashing footballs at him to control. Lob a tennis ball in the machine each time he miscontrols it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 5 minutes ago, Mark said: Barnes is not a right midfielder, tried a few times this season and he's been pulled at half time. He's spent his whole career on the left apart from the loan at MK Don's. He may be right footed but look at Mahrez his natural position is on the right despite being left footed it's the same for Barnes on the other side. Generally I would agree, as he likes to cut in and shoot although I can't remember too many times he has been successful with that for us but there is no harm switching sides mid-game to see how it goes. Mahrez had the touch and control to get it on his favoured foot, Barnes doesn't. So many of his chances to shoot or cross fall on his left and its atrocious at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post matty98 Posted 29 June 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 29 June 2020 There's nothing wrong with Barnes' first touch. It's purely down to confidence. Before the 3 month break when he had hit his stride he was quality. Are people really so quick to forget? I remember people saying the same things about Vardy and his first touch during his first season in the premier league. Look how that turned out. Barnes will be a quality player for us, I have no doubt. He just needs to play with confidence and maybe even a bit of arrogance. He has all the ability. He's fast, good with both feet, can cross, shoot, dribble and link up play well. Just give him time and support. It's his first full season in the premier league and he's racked up some very good stats. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 9 minutes ago, matty98 said: There's nothing wrong with Barnes' first touch. It's purely down to confidence. Before the 3 month break when he had hit his stride he was quality. Are people really so quick to forget? I remember people saying the same things about Vardy and his first touch during his first season in the premier league. Look how that turned out. Barnes will be a quality player for us, I have no doubt. He just needs to play with confidence and maybe even a bit of arrogance. He has all the ability. He's fast, good with both feet, can cross, shoot, dribble and link up play well. Just give him time and support. It's his first full season in the premier league and he's racked up some very good stats. Exactly! Strong too - good build on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 I can’t remember him miscontrolling the ball before the suspension. In fact he was our best player and the only one scoring. Perez doesn’t even get into positions where his touch could let him down, he just drifts through games until he’s subbed. I think confidence player is a rubbish phrase but I think Barnes is one of the clearest examples I’ve ever seen. When the whole team is abject and bereft of confidence singling out our only lively player is daft. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 29 June 2020 Share Posted 29 June 2020 Agree that confidence has affected him. I also thinks that he hasn't been attempting to bring the ball back when he gets into the corners and playing those triangles. Its like hes reverted to try and skip his way into the box more often and failing. It doesnt help obviously if the support players aren't around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dmayne7 Posted 4 July 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 4 July 2020 What's that for the season; 6 goals and 8 assists? Not bad for somebody who can't control a football... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 4 July 2020 Share Posted 4 July 2020 1 minute ago, dmayne7 said: What's that for the season; 6 goals and 8 assists? Not bad for somebody who can't control a football... Very good. Impact sub today in the perfect situation. That 2nd assist was perfectly timed with Vardy's run too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Posted 4 July 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 4 July 2020 Always makes things happen even when he's quiet or struggling in a match, he sees things and his timing of passes is usually spot on. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 4 July 2020 Share Posted 4 July 2020 4 minutes ago, StanSP said: Very good. Impact sub today in the perfect situation. That 2nd assist was perfectly timed with Vardy's run too. Maddison would have passed a second late or hit it too far to the left of the field allowing therefore the defender to catchup. Barnes is quality but he just could not play with Chilwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty98 Posted 4 July 2020 Share Posted 4 July 2020 Never in doubt, the lad is destined for big things. Next season he'll get 20 goal contributions easily. Thought he was fantastic in the free role, makes it hard to mark him out of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 4 July 2020 Share Posted 4 July 2020 Superb, basically single handedly stopped us getting penned in and two good assists to boot. More of that please Harvey lad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 4 July 2020 Share Posted 4 July 2020 Barnes is the real deal, reminds of Bale when he was breaking through. Be nice if he could kick on like Bale did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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