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13 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.20030502v1 More research suggesting that symptoms are akin to upper respiratory common cold symptoms. The whole self isolation if dry cough and feverish could be missing a lot of actual infected. 

 

Interesting read.

 

I had a bad cold for two days earlier this week, runny nose, temperature up and down Monday/Tuesday.  Now it feels just like a normal cold.  It's very difficult to pin down who has it and who hasn't just by looking at symptoms for the self isolation scenario.

 

Had the shopping order earlier today, ordered the usual pasta and received no pasta.  Not even a pasta substitute.  Got the toilet rolls though - result! lol

 

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5 minutes ago, Izzy said:

 

Don't go there chaps. I can see my retirement villa in Spain disappearing before my eyes :(

It's crazy how it can affect everything... madness

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2 minutes ago, Guesty said:

Just been to do the weekly shop at Beaumont Leys Tesco. No toilet roll, soap, pasta, rice, ice cream and the only baked beans were no added sugar. 

 

A woman running around complaining she doesn't know where anything is as she always gets it delivered but they've run out of slots.

 

Proper wierd.

To be fair it is near the end of the day. Bound to be empty shelves on top of the rush they may have seen earlier in the day. They usually get deliveries around late in the night/early hours etc. I know it's probably inconvenient to go shopping at that time, but that would be the best time to go (if it's a 24/7 store).

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Just now, Leicester_Loyal said:

What do we think will happen to house prices? Anyone think they'll plummet? Was looking to buy in the next 3/4 months, but now I think I'll hold off as they could potentially be a lot more empty houses available and on the market.

Just bought a new build. No idea how this is going to pan out to be honest. 

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8 minutes ago, Guesty said:

Just been to do the weekly shop at Beaumont Leys Tesco. No toilet roll, soap, pasta, rice, ice cream and the only baked beans were no added sugar. 

 

A woman running around complaining she doesn't know where anything is as she always gets it delivered but they've run out of slots.

 

Proper wierd.

Well that's just fvckin unacceptable really

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2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

To be fair it is near the end of the day. Bound to be empty shelves on top of the rush they may have seen earlier in the day. They usually get deliveries around late in the night/early hours etc. I know it's probably inconvenient to go shopping at that time, but that would be the best time to go (if it's a 24/7 store).

I think it's just cause it's such a big store. There are just massive gaps.

 

My mate who works for Coop says they will have enough stock at the depot. He also said Morrisons and Coop haven't been as badly effected. Everyone seems to be going to Asda and Tesco.

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I keep thinking self isolation starts like Renton going cold turkey in Trainspotting, barricading himself in a room with tins of beans, vodka and porn mags. Then leaving the room after a week and it's like walking through an empty London with overturned buses like in 28 Days Later.

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Just now, Leicester_Loyal said:

What do we think will happen to house prices? Anyone think they'll plummet? Was looking to buy in the next 3/4 months, but now I think I'll hold off as they could potentially be a lot more empty houses available and on the market.

Why would house prices plummet, do you think peeps are going to go, bugger me, I'll sell the house and buy toilet rolls?

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4 hours ago, nnfox said:

Closing the tube in London would have major, major economic consequences, it's absolutely vital.  

At some point it might well happen, but what's your number?  How many people have to have the virus for the tube to be closed? In a city with 9 million people? 10? 20? 100? 500?

I think London alone would have to see a few days of 1000+ new cases before they shut the thing down. 

More likely is that people will be encouraged to work from home, walk or ride a bike, follow a different shift pattern to spread people out rather than the traditional rush hours (although the tube always seems horrendous).

 

Don’t forget the London buses either.Packed most times of the day with people who just couldn’t carry on their daily duties without the service.The millions at the bottom are going to get tanked by this.

Im no economic expert but if a fifth of the country ends up off work at different periods,during the next quarter let’s say?Wont that equate to a drop in GDP by something like a catastrophic 5%.Ok loads of different factors and I’m sure someone will point out how way off that is.However even if Jim can still plaster the walls,he might not be able to because Kev the sparks is sick.The brickies can’t lay because the supply chains gone to pot.Replicate this scenario for all jobs the world over.Surely demand is massively going to out stripe supply.What an earth is inflation going to be like?

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11 minutes ago, ithuriel said:

Why would house prices plummet, do you think peeps are going to go, bugger me, I'll sell the house and buy toilet rolls?

Lowering/Stalling population, less money available due to people being off work, unable to pay bills etc. The whole global market has just lost about 10% over night and people have lost thousands in shares alone. I'd have thought the reasonings were pretty obviously tbf!

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'Many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time.' Not my words, but words of Boris Johnson tonight. And what are we discussing - lack of toilet rolls in the supermarkets and a few quid wiped off the price of shares.

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6 minutes ago, String fellow said:

'Many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time.' Not my words, but words of Boris Johnson tonight. And what are we discussing - lack of toilet rolls in the supermarkets and a few quid wiped off the price of shares.

Can we only talk about people dying then, nothing else?

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9 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Lowering/Stalling population, less money available due to people being off work, unable to pay bills etc. The whole global market has just lost about 10% over night and people have lost thousands in shares alone. I'd have thought the reasonings were pretty obviously tbf!

Or a baby boom as everyone find something to do in isolation.........

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25 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

What do we think will happen to house prices? Anyone think they'll plummet? Was looking to buy in the next 3/4 months, but now I think I'll hold off as they could potentially be a lot more empty houses available and on the market.

I am due to complete any day now so they will inevitably crash immediately after that. 

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19 minutes ago, String fellow said:

'Many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time.' Not my words, but words of Boris Johnson tonight. And what are we discussing - lack of toilet rolls in the supermarkets and a few quid wiped off the price of shares.

Hardly

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I've had flu for about 2 weeks not sure if got it but travel to work where people come from all over the UK so who knows I think alot more people have it than they think but most are able to get through it as it's not that much worse than a common flu in a lot of cases is it

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44 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Lowering/Stalling population, less money available due to people being off work, unable to pay bills etc. The whole global market has just lost about 10% over night and people have lost thousands in shares alone. I'd have thought the reasonings were pretty obviously tbf!

Also it’s a supply and demand market, so there might be a few extra bungalows to go around.

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2 hours ago, bovril said:

Is there evidence people do become immune? 

It is too early to say but the theory, based on other viruses and diseases is that immunity will build up over time but there is no certainty. if you take the eradication of small pox for eg, not every single person was vaccinated but enough % of the world's population was so that eventually the disease did not have enough hosts to transfer the disease. Mass infection would eventually theoretically lead to a simialr case with this virus. Ie it would still be prevalent in society but enough people would have some immunity to effectively reduce the spread to minimal levels.

 

This is all we can do until there is either an effective vaccine or effective anti viral medecine.

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37 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Or a baby boom as everyone find something to do in isolation.........

And in China a big increase in those seeking divorce has just been seen so if that follows in the UK after isolation even more houses needed.

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