Brighton - Post Match Thread - 0-0.

[Sunbury Fox]

To all those saying we still have a good cushion, it's sobering to think that only Bournemouth and Villa stand in the way of Wolves being 3 points behind us by early Saturday pm.

 

38 points from the first 16 games, 17 in the 15 since says it all really.

[foxes_rule1978]

8 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

To all those saying we still have a good cushion, it's sobering to think that only Bournemouth and Villa stand in the way of Wolves being 3 points behind us by early Saturday pm.

 

38 points from the first 16 games, 17 in the 15 since says it all really.

17 in last 15 is relegation stuff 

[Jattdogg]

Two games we should have won and in reality it's 4 points dropped.

 

It's not all doom and gloom but we need to get 2 or 3 wins in a row or champs league places could go down to the wire.

 

I honestly think we just need to bang in some goals and everything will snap back into place.

 

Vardy needs a goal more than a horny 18 year old needs to wank.

[Chrysalis]

This is very worrying, even after a break we havent shaken off the 2020 form problem.

 

Gary Linekar even tweeted this is the worst he has seen us play under Rodgers, and I am sure he would have thought twice before posting it.

 

So I assume the first half was really bad (I missed it).

 

I started watching at about 60 mins, and possession wise we were ok, but the same problem as before, we are really lacking in the final 3rd.  In the earlier part of the season we were so clinical.

[foxes_rule1978]

11 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

This is very worrying, even after a break we havent shaken off the 2020 form problem.

 

Gary Linekar even tweeted this is the worst he has seen us play under Rodgers, and I am sure he would have thought twice before posting it.

 

So I assume the first half was really bad (I missed it).

 

I started watching at about 60 mins, and possession wise we were ok, but the same problem as before, we are really lacking in the final 3rd.  In the earlier part of the season we were so clinical.

It was Puelball again 

[foxes_rule1978]

We have been fortunate that the teams below us are hardly winning either. Can’t trust that that will continue though.

[ozleicester]

On the good side, i decided not to get up at 2am for what sounds like a terrible match.

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, Cecchini1976 said:

It’s like pre season, really hard to judge anything, both teams were shocking, movement , first touch, passing. It’s shocking and all games have been the same since the restart. And I think the target is the FA cup, 5th will

qualify for the CL so not really an issue,’if we draw every game we will

be in the CL. I think the season has restated to early, honestly feel for the players 

..I really think you are missing the big picture!!!

  Why are you deluding yourself regarding the performances, we are not saving ourselves for the F A Cup, we are poor because we are poor!!!

[Tom12345]

I got laughed at, but I have said it for a while - see my last post:

 

 

 

Anyway, hope the boys will pick it up.

Edited 23 June 2020 by Tom12345

[Gerard]

4 hours ago, Walkers said:

The people who are saying we're still 6/8/9pts clear of 5th, theres no reason to worry... are the same people who were saying it's okay that Ranieri had us 17th because we weren't in the relegation zone yet. We were only going one way then and the points difference we have now is only going to get smaller. Wake up

 

You can't educate pork

 

I remember a few were cheering on the likes of Wolves/Tottenham/Man Utd etc against Liverpool and Man City because:

 

1) they didn't like Liverpool

2) they wanted Wolves to get the last CL spot

3) more concerned about finishing second than finishing 5th

 

Some people are just morons with no idea what's going on.

[lee7]

Mendy and Ndidi are the same type of player. If you have no one in central midfield with an eye for a pass then it's obvious creativity will be lacking. 

 

Maddison is much more effective in the final 3rd. I heard him saying he considers himself a number 8 and likes picking the ball up deeper but in my opinion he is wasted in that position. 

He comes alive around the oppositions penalty box and looks most dangerous when he is on the front foot looking to get someone in behind. 

 

We miss Ricardo and the options he offers when attacking too. It is a shame that neither Justin or Chilwell seem capable pf whipping in 3/4 dangerous crosses in a match. 

 

None of the players can be criticised for lacking effort. We just lack creativity massively. 

[Nod.E]

I've only gotten to page 6.

 

Yes it was poor. No I don't understand why we started N'didi and Mendy either. Why Gray still gets starts is beyond me.

 

But the reaction is a bit much.

 

I think two things are working against us at the moment:

 

1 - While all teams won't be as fit as before lockdown, this will hamper us disproportionately as we can't really play our pressing game. It'll be interesting to see if Liverpool improve on their showing vs. Everton as they may have the same issue. Mind you when you've got the likes of Mané and Salah, you can win without turning up anyway.

 

2 - Our young lack of underbelly coming back to bite us again. I saw Maddison flailing his arms around, huffing and puffing, almost kicking the ball away in frustration when the half time whistle was blown. He and I'm sure others are clearly in a strange head space. You might rightly point out they should get on with it considering the money they're paid and you'd have a decent point. I do just think that some of our young pros might not be dealing with this change from a mental standpoint as well as others.

 

All of that said, Mendy and N'didi is always going to produce a boring match. I like both players but you can't start with both of them on the pitch if you want to score goals.

 

Hopefully we'll get Praet and Perez involved, and get Harvey firing again sooner rather than later.

 

Not panicking yet. One positive is that we're not conceding. We can either pick our form up or win a couple of games we don't deserve and even that may well be enough. Both scenarios perfectly plausible.

 

One thing's for sure, surely Brendan won't field that 11 again this season.

[jim5000]

5 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

It's not just that Mason doesn't give the handball, the fact that it isn't even checked by VAR is totally astonishing. 

 

What's odd about the handball is that it there is clearly hand contact but it accidental, however his hand was not in a natural position and the handball prevented the ball from dropping at Barnes feet who would have had a clear shot at goal from 6 yards outs.

 

Given the Brighton penalty was given for a coming together, not a direct 'foul', and was soft, it doesn't seem equal that the handball wasn't given.

 

 

[honeybradger]

5 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Wtf were you watching?😂 Gray had very little influence on the game. It was a standard performance for him when he starts. He’s only effective as a sub.

Only player who gave a **** that game and he might be out the door. Depressing honestly that him chasing lamptey to stop them scoring is probably the highlight of the game.

[spacemunky]

Gray proves again he's sh*t when he's given a start.

 

Why wasn't Praet brought on?

 

Madders seems to have the skill to make a difference, but certainly didn't show it today.

 

Ricky being out is an even bigger problem than imagined.

[Dan]

6 hours ago, LCFCSOULBOY said:

Makes me laugh thinking back to a few months ago when people were comparing this sh*t house to the title winning side. This side has no where near the strength or courage

Ridiculous isn't it. It's a disgrace how disrespected that side still is and quite telling how many fans of not only us, but plenty of neutrals totally underestimate the ability to hold your nerve.

[Dan]

6 hours ago, Kasey Keller said:

https://www.facebook.com/662684748/posts/10159202860719749/?d=n

That's cheered me right up  

[RowlattsFox]

Can't believe we only made the 3 subs yesterday. Brighton changed changed most of their midfield in one go mid second half and gave them new energy. We didn't try anything, could have gone 3 at the back, tried Albrighton at right wing back etc problem when we start with 2 strikers is that our plan B is to take one of them off. 

 

Bizarre from Rodgers all round yesterday. 

[Cecchini1976]

6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..I really think you are missing the big picture!!!

  Why are you deluding yourself regarding the performances, we are not saving ourselves for the F A Cup, we are poor because we are poor!!!

Well in my 43 years of being a leicester fan, this is only the second time we have had an excellent chance of champions league football, so wouldn’t say we are poor, depends on your expectations. And most teams have been poor since the restart as players are clearly not match fit, but maybe you are comparing us playing to empty stadiums as the same as full and being fully sharp to not being sharp? 
 

anyway i hope we stay poor if it means we are challenging the big 6 every year 

[st albans fox]

4 hours ago, spacemunky said:

Gray proves again he's sh*t when he's given a start.

 

Why wasn't Praet brought on?

 

Madders seems to have the skill to make a difference, but certainly didn't show it today.

 

Ricky being out is an even bigger problem than imagined.

He’s probably not as fit as we would like .... if we were three up then you might have seen him. Be interesting to see if he starts on Sunday ...he has to get some match fitness from somewhere......

 

still can’t get my head around Brendan’s tactics first half.  And even then, why persist well into the second with the same line up, even though you’ve tweaked tactically ???

 

the only positive is that later in the game, we were clearly the fitter side, even having used two less subs.  but only giving yourself twenty minutes to try to win against a well organised physical side happy with a point is weird.

 

and finally, corners ......we just played two of the tallest sides in the world ......and we persisted in sticking standard corners into the mixer ......no short ones like we’ve seen earlier in the season ....... whilst Watford do have some issues defending set pieces, we are not a tall side and it just seems such a waste of time ...... 

[jmono84]

The lower teams have sussed us by playing deep which completely nullifies Vardy and most if not all of our wingers, it makes them cross into the box which is exactly what the opposition wants us to do, obviously the fullbacks will try and stop the crosses but if it gets in I’m sure they’re very confident they won’t concede.

We haven’t got the technical quality up top to break teams like this, we have direct quick wingers and forwards but they need space to run into and they haven’t got that ability to play one twos in tight spaces. I think Maddison and Tielemans are very suited to this but it must be difficult for them finding their front men in good positions because the pass will have to be perfect and they know this.

For me we need to sign at least a quality striker who can genuinely challenge Vards and at least one quality winger if we somehow manage to stay in the top 4 and have ambitions to stay there in the future.

[Nicolo Barella]

I think subbing Iheanacho off was the wrong decision. He seemed to be the only one able to actually pass forwards at times, had good close control, got involved decently in the build up. What we missed in the last 20 minutes was something to connect play inwards and Iheanacho had that imo.

 

In a game where Vardy isn't seeing anything of the ball, perhaps it's best to take him off instead? We struggle to get it up to him when the opposition stifles our build up, perhaps Iheanacho would have been able to drop a bit deeper and pull Perez and Barnes into play. I know it seems counterproductive to take off our best goal threat, but there's no point in having him there if we can't get the ball to him.

 

Their fullback Lamptey was brilliant.

Edited 24 June 2020 by Nicolo Barella

[Gamble92]

9 hours ago, Twitcher said:

Joking aside some are a lot better than others. Sky favouring the traditional big boys. At least the players don't hear anything 

It sounds like the FIFA crowds to me. Especially the West Ham chants last night

[Nicolo Barella]

That weird 4-4-2 might actually have a future though, if we play Praet along Ndidi. The Mendy-Ndidi midfield just wasn't able enough to get the ball forward, maybe Praet could have made the difference.

[Guest ttfn]

11 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said:

I think subbing Iheanacho off was the wrong decision. He seemed to be the only one able to actually pass forwards at times, had good close control, got involved decently in the build up. What we missed in the last 20 minutes was something to connect play inwards and Iheanacho had that imo.

 

In a game where Vardy isn't seeing anything of the ball, perhaps it's best to take him off instead? We struggle to get it up to him when the opposition stifles our build up, perhaps Iheanacho would have been able to drop a bit deeper and pull Perez and Barnes into play. I know it seems counterproductive to take off our best goal threat, but there's no point in having him there if we can't get the ball to him.

 

Their fullback Lamptey was been brilliant.

Rodgers has the fans on his side. As 2 of the last 3 managers have found, the quickest way to lose the crowd is to take off Vardy no matter how much sense it might make.