Foxxed Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 2 hours ago, whoareyaaa said: If you throw Drinkwater, Kante and Mahrez in there we have sold 5 players for almost 250m Drinkwater -> Tielemans, Maddison Kante -> Ndidi Mahrez -> Under Chilwell -> Thomas Maguire -> Cags, Fofana It's incredible really. The only player we haven't adequately replaced (understandably) is Mahrez. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 Chilwell..Must be better than any of you...Nobody knows you....!! Chilwell is a name in English football, he doesn't have to have an Agenda, or go on a crusade to decry or continualyl demean, A Local lad, come good, fairing at his profession far better than the People in this forum,who Show only spite & Snidey left-overs to a young lad who has already Left the club....Its crass and unwarranted.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 49 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Chilwell..Must be better than any of you...Nobody knows you....!! Chilwell is a name in English football, he doesn't have to have an Agenda, or go on a crusade to decry or continualyl demean, A Local lad, come good, fairing at his profession far better than the People in this forum,who Show only spite & Snidey left-overs to a young lad who has already Left the club....Its crass and unwarranted.. It looks like you have used the greater than symbol. I think I get your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Next Year Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 Was a lucky boy tonight would have been a pen to Everton had it not been offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shailen Posted 12 December 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 12 December 2020 Really don't get the hate for Chilwell. He's one of the best full backs in the world and that's something we've developed. His stamina, defensive positioning, speed, aerial ability are all areas he excels in. His crossing in open play was poor at times but ironically his set pieces are fantastic. I do feel last season especially we weren't built for the crossing game as it would just be Vardy in the box with Barnes usually looking for it short and midfielders waiting for it on the edge of the box. It's really why some of the times why his crosses looked aimless whereas at Chelsea they're doing the opposite and it's making him look like a real offensive threat. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 I don't hear Chelsea doing any complaining. They got what they paid for and recognize that Chilwell is one of the best LBs in the PL. They paid a lot for him but it he was still good value for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 He looks like he can pass and cross without nutmegging himself at Chelsea which is surprising. Was he deliberately doing those horrendous spooned crosses for us for the entire team he played here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 21 minutes ago, Always Next Year said: Was a lucky boy tonight would have been a pen to Everton had it not been offside. Calvert-Lewin wouldn’t have been in that position had he been onside so it’s irrelevant really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Feed The Yak!! Posted 13 December 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 13 December 2020 26 minutes ago, shailen said: Really don't get the hate for Chilwell. He's one of the best full backs in the world and that's something we've developed. His stamina, defensive positioning, speed, aerial ability are all areas he excels in. His crossing in open play was poor at times but ironically his set pieces are fantastic. I do feel last season especially we weren't built for the crossing game as it would just be Vardy in the box with Barnes usually looking for it short and midfielders waiting for it on the edge of the box. It's really why some of the times why his crosses looked aimless whereas at Chelsea they're doing the opposite and it's making him look like a real offensive threat. One of the best full backs in the world was by far and away the weakest player in Leicester City's backline? What does that mean for the others then? Is Ricardo better than Cafu? It's fair to say that he received some undue criticism while he was here but we don't need to go the other way with this kind of ridiculous revisionism. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 It’s obvious Chilwell has improved significantly at Chelsea in a way he probably wouldn’t have with us. For us he was very good athletically but weak defensive and frustrating going forwards. Absolutely not a loss given we have Castagne, Thomas and Justin as LB options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 1 hour ago, shailen said: He's one of the best full backs in the world 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 4 hours ago, King of Gipsy Lane said: Kante and Mahrez I’d have back Kante but not Mahrez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Foxed Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 27 minutes ago, gurru991 said: Kante but not Mahrez we'd be top of the league if we had Mahrez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 11 minutes ago, Out Foxed said: we'd be top of the league if we had Mahrez Depends which Mahrez came back . Although admittedly brilliant on his day on others he just don’t give a flying **** and it can be like playing with ten men . That said thy guy was unplayable in our title winning season . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 34 minutes ago, Out Foxed said: we'd be top of the league if we had Mahrez Not the Mahrez I watched play today . I'm not disputing his talent but he is will never be a team player. Man C have him & they aint top of the league !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shailen Posted 13 December 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 13 December 2020 6 hours ago, Feed The Yak!! said: One of the best full backs in the world was by far and away the weakest player in Leicester City's backline? What does that mean for the others then? Is Ricardo better than Cafu? It's fair to say that he received some undue criticism while he was here but we don't need to go the other way with this kind of ridiculous revisionism. Yeah because Chelsea paid £50m for an average full back. You don't pay that kind of money unless you think the player has substantial talent. He's England's no. 1 left back and I'd only go as far to say Robertson and Davies are better than him. Final crosses aside, he's got everything imo. I actually think he was one of our better defenders last season, his side overall was weak defensively as Barnes and Maddison on the left side of midfield weren't as good at getting back as Perez and Tielemans were so he was very exposed with Man City away being the prime example. I like Thomas but I can't get my head round why people think he's going to be way better than Chilwell. He's better at crossing granted, but his defensive positioning, aerial ability, etc. are miles away from where Chilwell was at the same age. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkish14 Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 8 hours ago, shailen said: Really don't get the hate for Chilwell. He's one of the best full backs in the world and that's something we've developed. His stamina, defensive positioning, speed, aerial ability are all areas he excels in. His crossing in open play was poor at times but ironically his set pieces are fantastic. I do feel last season especially we weren't built for the crossing game as it would just be Vardy in the box with Barnes usually looking for it short and midfielders waiting for it on the edge of the box. It's really why some of the times why his crosses looked aimless whereas at Chelsea they're doing the opposite and it's making him look like a real offensive threat. Agree! the hate and detest goes to far. You have acknowledged as many have his form wasn’t great at times so to his crossing. But you as I, have no reason to hate him. But a large portion of our fan base do. id like to know what he has done to “warrant” that dislike? mahrez went and sat in an airport, as such created such a bad vibe that we lost out on potential europa. Not sure how chillwell is disliked more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 9 minutes ago, turkish14 said: Agree! the hate and detest goes to far. You have acknowledged as many have his form wasn’t great at times so to his crossing. But you as I, have no reason to hate him. But a large portion of our fan base do. id like to know what he has done to “warrant” that dislike? mahrez went and sat in an airport, as such created such a bad vibe that we lost out on potential europa. Not sure how chillwell is disliked more. Even during our winning run last season, there were groans whenever Chilwell was announced over the tannoy system from a section of fans at the KP. Its almost as though he was doomed to fail before he started. No wonder he talks about his confidence taking a hit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 7 hours ago, Stadt said: It’s obvious Chilwell has improved significantly at Chelsea in a way he probably wouldn’t have with us. For us he was very good athletically but weak defensive and frustrating going forwards. Absolutely not a loss given we have Castagne, Thomas and Justin as LB options. How footballers seemingly improve or regress so quickly fascinates me. It seems implausible that a player who found it nigh on impossible to pass or cross under numerous managers known for developing young players is mind boggling. It happens though and often quickly, which is what we are seemingly seeing with Chilwell. His final ball, the very thing I thought was a technical flaw that might not ever be improved is now pretty bloody good. I honestly thought he might have webbed feet, his passes and crosses would be like a magnet to empty space in any peculiar shape required not to reach any of our players, yet now he seems to be putting in some balls with accuracy and quality. It begs the question if he was deliberately playing badly for us but that's not really the best preparation for getting a move to a bigger club and going on to become their highest paid player so it must simply be a new challenge and new ideas thats got this missing piece of the puzzle for Chilwell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worth_the_wait Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 1 hour ago, shailen said: I like Thomas but I can't get my head round why people think he's going to be way better than Chilwell. He's better at crossing granted, but his defensive positioning, aerial ability, etc. are miles away from where Chilwell was at the same age. Not sure about the last bit. Ben Chilwell is 4.5 years older than Luke Thomas. They had both broken into the first team by the time they were 19. Thomas has made 18 appearances to date, Chilwell had made 22 appearances by roughly the same age. They both are showing (have shown) plenty of promise, but no way that Luke Thomas is "miles away" at the same age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 (edited) He certainly was not worth the £50m Chelsea spent on him.... to suggest he was one of our better defenders last season is a bit silly, he was responsible for some of the most horrible performances I’ve seen from a Leicester player. Was it Southampton at home? I don’t think he actually found a Leicester shirt with a single pass..... Personally I don’t rate him all that much, his defensive positioning is poor, he often get caught out, particularly by physical players with a bit of pace. He’s playing well for Chelsea yes, but he’s got world class players around him, he’s not even as good as JJ, let alone Timmy or Ricardo in my opinion. He was however excellent and driving us up the pitch, but JJ, Timmy and Ricardo can all do that.... so personally I don’t think we’ve lost as much as we’ve gained now he has gone. But, having said all of that, the fact he is currently playing well does us massive favours, he’s done more leaving the club than he did whilst playing for us, £50m for you young defender developed by us? It will be an attractive proposition for any young player wanting to come to the PL, a new fancy training ground and evidence we improve players will only help us going forward in the window. I mean, look at the window we’ve had, Timmy, lil Wes, under.... all quality players. We’re slowly but surely becoming a power house, just need to sort the consistency out. And Thomas will definitely become a better player. Edited 13 December 2020 by Pliskin 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: How footballers seemingly improve or regress so quickly fascinates me. It seems implausible that a player who found it nigh on impossible to pass or cross under numerous managers known for developing young players is mind boggling. It happens though and often quickly, which is what we are seemingly seeing with Chilwell. His final ball, the very thing I thought was a technical flaw that might not ever be improved is now pretty bloody good. I honestly thought he might have webbed feet, his passes and crosses would be like a magnet to empty space in any peculiar shape required not to reach any of our players, yet now he seems to be putting in some balls with accuracy and quality. It begs the question if he was deliberately playing badly for us but that's not really the best preparation for getting a move to a bigger club and going on to become their highest paid player so it must simply be a new challenge and new ideas thats got this missing piece of the puzzle for Chilwell. It’s not that big a mystery. I think he’s already said in another interview that he lost confidence for a while - and given some of the stick he got that was pretty much inevitable. Obviously don’t know the guy but he seems like someone that a manager needs to to build up and praise rather than criticise to get the best out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 8 hours ago, Feed The Yak!! said: One of the best full backs in the world was by far and away the weakest player in Leicester City's backline? What does that mean for the others then? Is Ricardo better than Cafu? Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Gipsy Lane Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 8 hours ago, gurru991 said: Kante but not Mahrez You can’t know football then mate ! He is possible the greatest talent ever to play for us, tosser for sulking out the door but he is world class on his day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Gipsy Lane Posted 13 December 2020 Share Posted 13 December 2020 6 hours ago, gurru991 said: Not the Mahrez I watched play today . I'm not disputing his talent but he is will never be a team player. Man C have him & they aint top of the league !! Could apply that to every Man City player yesterday, Pep has lost them that’s very obvious they don’t work as hard or press as hard as before and are a shadow of the team 3 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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