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1 minute ago, Qwerty said:

One of the things that is confusing me - on the BBC discussion board, several people seem to think this will be a good thing.  They say the "big 6" can go away, with their dirty oil money and referee bias - leaving the remaining teams to participate in a fairer more enjoyable Premier League.  What they don't seem to realise is that without the Big teams playing, the TV companies won't be interested in the Premier League.  And without TV money, the players won't get the wages they want, and will all be desperate to leave (and sit on the bench for Man City etc).  There won't be the money going down to the lower leagues, so teams who are already struggling after Covid will struggle even more.  

 

Also - does anyone understand the "5 teams that can apply each year to the super league"?  If there's no relegation, how can 5 new teams join every year?  

Leagues in countries such as Holland and Scotland have been shut up from big TV deals. They are still functioning. 

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8 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

 

Geoff, do you reckon the PL will come down hard, or bottle it if the clubs decide to pull out before they get involved. 
 

I don’t think it’s too far to deduct enough points to relegate all six, and then bring six teams up, and make them fight for their chance to get back into the PL. 

 

Why should teams get punished for financial struggles, and then teams not for breaking rules in an immoral way? 

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13 minutes ago, bovril said:

I find this hard to believe considering there is relegation in literally every other football league in the world. 

 

But they're not football people, they're not from countries with a big football heritage, they didn't grow up in love with the game.


A lot of them are American, particularly those driving it. In fact, the American influence is absolutely overwhelming in this and they're the masters of commercialising sport. 

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2 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

One of the things that is confusing me - on the BBC discussion board, several people seem to think this will be a good thing.  They say the "big 6" can go away, with their dirty oil money and referee bias - leaving the remaining teams to participate in a fairer more enjoyable Premier League.  What they don't seem to realise is that without the Big teams playing, the TV companies won't be interested in the Premier League.  And without TV money, the players won't get the wages they want, and will all be desperate to leave (and sit on the bench for Man City etc).  There won't be the money going down to the lower leagues, so teams who are already struggling after Covid will struggle even more.  

 

Also - does anyone understand the "5 teams that can apply each year to the super league"?  If there's no relegation, how can 5 new teams join every year?  

Also we can't let this just be about an us and them - rather we have to show solidarity here with the fans of the affected clubs. The overwhelming majority clearly don't want this to happen and are rightly standing up for the future of football. It must be heart breaking right now if you have been a fan of your hometown team all your life watching all this happening. It's been bad enough for us during Covid times not being able to get along to matches, but before they know it their regular league matches could be a thing of the past. 

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13 minutes ago, filbertway said:

And if you were comfortable financially, in that situation would you hand out the unfair redundancies oand toe the company line or would you stand up for what is right?

I'd like to think I'd have a backbone, but I'm not on a multi-million pound contract and could (hopefully) walk into another job on similar pay. Any managers that take a strong stance now will be revered by you and I, but they can't take moral credit to the bank. We're all lovely people hypothetically. If the managers of the top 6 sides have no issues with where the money that lines their pockets comes from already, then I'm damn sure they're not going to rock the boat now.

 

The managers aren't free from criticism, but they are way down the list of people to blame here and it's ridiculous that they're the ones facing the press. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

One of the things that is confusing me - on the BBC discussion board, several people seem to think this will be a good thing.  They say the "big 6" can go away, with their dirty oil money and referee bias - leaving the remaining teams to participate in a fairer more enjoyable Premier League.  What they don't seem to realise is that without the Big teams playing, the TV companies won't be interested in the Premier League.  And without TV money, the players won't get the wages they want, and will all be desperate to leave (and sit on the bench for Man City etc).  There won't be the money going down to the lower leagues, so teams who are already struggling after Covid will struggle even more.  

 

Also - does anyone understand the "5 teams that can apply each year to the super league"?  If there's no relegation, how can 5 new teams join every year?  

There would bw no relegation for the Founding 15 the other 5 places would be up for grabs each year based on some vague notiion of picking the best 5 teams from the rest.

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18 minutes ago, davieG said:

Ipswich Town, Everton, Derby, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Leeds United, Blackburn Rovers & Leicester City have all won the league since Tottenham last did in 1961.. Aston Villa & Nottingham Forest have more European cups than Arsenal, Tottenham & Atheltico Madrid

The Big 6 is obviously about the richest clubs not the current best ones. Arsenal and especially Spurs being founding members is an absolute joke. This hostile take-over has one and only goal: generate money. RM (Perez seems to be the master mind behind it), Barca and the three italian clubs are drowning in debts, especially with COVID, and desperately need the cash. The big six is owned by mega-rich a-holes with neither footballing culture nor love for the game who see there the opportunity to maximize their profit and couldn't care less about anything else.

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This will be end of premier league ! If these clubs allowed to participate in next season what is their motivation ? Be all about Super Dooper League for them as they’ve already qualified for next season . 

Kick them out of premier league now I say so the rest of the clubs can have a great completion with incentive to qualify for Europe ! I doubt those six  plastic teams will last long. 

KICK THEM OUT now . That will put end to it (or them ).

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Fixture list for super league just out

 

Northern Qatar City royals v  BTCharlie Capitols ( k.o 3am Beijing )

Mersey Beat Reds v Giant Cocks (ok 11 pm Abu Dhabi )

Espana Centralistas v Italian mountain Ferrari ( ko 2am Sydney )

cataluna separatists v stars and stripe Red Devils ( Ko Atlanta 7 pm ) 

London gunners v Dolmio specials ( KO 4.o Madrid ) 

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I think its time to talk about ownership. id love some type of rule like the german one, that allows fans to have a 51 percent ownership. while i dont reckon it will get to that, I DO think there needs to be 

A. some type of regulation fan input on ownership to some degree

B. limit on transfer policies, like some salary cap

C. independent regulators as neville mentioned 

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3 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

But they're not football people, they're not from countries with a big football heritage, they didn't grow up in love with the game.


A lot of them are American, particularly those driving it. In fact, the American influence is absolutely overwhelming in this and they're the masters of commercialising sport. 

True, but this comment implies that relegation is some kind of English phenomenon. 

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1 minute ago, trabuch said:

If anyone thinks they would play their strongest side in the PL matches they are deluded. The PL would become a B team/ Reserves competition for them. They would have to be kicked out.

Arsenal and Tottenhams best teams are only mid table now. Their reserves would struggle to stay up. 

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