Popular Post chapero82 Posted 1 April Popular Post Share Posted 1 April 17 minutes ago, Babylon said: How many on here we’re saying push the boat out, spend more money when going for top 4. They were screaming at the club to gamble… and now the club are idiots for doing so. Few clearly never considered the implications. Relegation could have been easily avoided but they kept blind faith in a man that could not turn it around. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 56 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: What do you want him to say, we are **** all go home? Yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daggers Posted 1 April Popular Post Share Posted 1 April 1 hour ago, StanSP said: Don't the biggest companies in the world take out loans? Yes, successful companies. Successful companies like Thames Water, for example. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 1 hour ago, chapero82 said: Relegation could have been easily avoided but they kept blind faith in a man that could not turn it around. Great, you have no idea if it would have made a difference though. We were still shit when he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 1 hour ago, inckley fox said: Normally you'd say 'thank god they weren't being paid seven figure sums to look after our finances', but on this occasion it barely made any difference. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of what seemed like the vast majority on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: Great, you have no idea if it would have made a difference though. We were still shit when he went. We had a chance to sack him and get in Emeri before Villa got him. He would have got us ticking I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 7 minutes ago, Babylon said: Great, you have no idea if it would have made a difference though. We were still shit when he went. In fairness the point for game Smith got us would have seen us mid to lower bottom of the league. We were too far gone in reality to pay that terrible brand of football to escape relegation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April (edited) 6 hours ago, StanSP said: Just a standard statement isn't it. I reckon we do have a lot of money but just can't spend it. It doesn't say any different to any other statement they may have 'written' for the programme at any other point in the past without any financial punishment hanging over us. Its a lazy paragraph in the match programme, as if match attending fans are all that need to be pleased and it will fool those who have a soft touch for him. It addresses people who might be concerned the club would go into admin or something, I dont have that concern anyway, I know KP wouldnt let that happen, but it doesnt address or even acknowledge the shambolic management of the club. Edited 1 April by Chrysalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambiasso Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April If he gave that much of a damn he would have been at the game instead of playing golf with his mates. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April On 31/03/2024 at 12:09, Number 6 said: … I think the mistake here is to not have good football people in places to ensure good running of the club. He doesn't need to be all over the details of LCFC goings on if there are good people in place to do that. There aren’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 3 minutes ago, 5waller5 said: There aren’t Agreed. Last summer was the time for the shake up and we missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 2 hours ago, Babylon said: I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of what seemed like the vast majority on here. I'm not sure whether that's hypocrisy, or just a case of people expressing opinions about things that they can't possibly be appropriately informed on. They don't have a clue what's likely to come out in next year's accounts, nor the ins and outs of the behind the scenes conversations, so they take a viewpoint which suits the very limited picture that they're getting of things. I.e. let's invest in this team because as far as I know the money's there / let's change the boss because as far as I know the money's there / let's not sell Barnes or Youri or Maddison / let's forget about FFP because nobody ever does anything about it anyway. It's a similar principal to someone like Junior Lewis not being good enough at PL level. Clearly that's down to a manager who had worked with him for years, saw things that we didn't in training and, based on that wealth of information, should have known better - rather than to the fans who heartily cheered his debut and wondered for a minute whether we'd uncovered another bargain. You could hardly say 'well, you silly sods said he was alright' when he turned out to be rubbish, because they didn't have the same information in front of them as the manager, and they weren't amply reimbursed as experts contracted to deal with those matters. So you heard nothing more, nothing less than you'd expect to hear from them when (a) Junior Lewis had a good game and (b) he ended up being awful. It's not really hypocrisy, and it's not always negative either, because clearly a lot of the support for KP and their sound financial management in the past has also been a consequence of us not seeing the full picture. If these fans were paid to be on top of that sort of information, it'd make sense to be annoyed with them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April On 31/03/2024 at 12:09, Number 6 said: Not to mention on the business side their duty free had to go through a global pandemic where there was no travel. He's had to contend with things which Vichai didn't. I think the mistake here is to not have good football people in places to ensure good running of the club. He doesn't need to be all over the details of LCFC goings on if there are good people in place to do that. I think I disagree, I think its important an owner has enough interest he is still sticking his nose in and making sure the club is run well, achieves its goals etc. An owner should be attending games regularly as an example as well. When you go down the road of "leaving it to others", it allows situations like "I have faith in my people" (when they doing a bad job) and for rots to set in whilst the disinterest continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 4 hours ago, Babylon said: Great, you have no idea if it would have made a difference though. We were still shit when he went. Are you saying we shouldn’t have sacked him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April Considering all that has happened over the last couple of weeks it's poor that he wasn't in his seat at the Norwich game today. If he had something important already pencilled in then fair enough. If not then it smacks of not having the balls to face his customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April 1 hour ago, l444ry said: Considering all that has happened over the last couple of weeks it's poor that he wasn't in his seat at the Norwich game today. If he had something important already pencilled in then fair enough. If not then it smacks of not having the balls to face his customers. Few days before his late father's birthday, so wouldn't surprise me if there was a family function or occasion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April It’ll be written by the Comms Director. He might potentially have had to sign it off (although maybe not for a run of the mill programme note) but don’t get worked up kidding yourselves that Top sat down and typed that all out. Same with the abomination of a statement at the end of last season. Not his words. That said, I’m sure on that one he had to give hard approval so absolutely his fault looking at that, thinking it was a good plan and signing it off. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 1 April Share Posted 1 April (edited) 9 hours ago, Babylon said: I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of what seemed like the vast majority on here. Hmmm, the call for a signing was to help out with central defence at the time. We signed Ryan Bennett out of a bargain bin. It was hardly break the bank stuff needed to get us over the line. Unlike the summer of spending to come post FA Cup victory Edited 1 April by CosbehFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyfox Posted 2 April Share Posted 2 April 3 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: It’ll be written by the Comms Director. He might potentially have had to sign it off (although maybe not for a run of the mill programme note) but don’t get worked up kidding yourselves that Top sat down and typed that all out. Same with the abomination of a statement at the end of last season. Not his words. That said, I’m sure on that one he had to give hard approval so absolutely his fault looking at that, thinking it was a good plan and signing it off. We need an owner who actually gives a shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 2 April Share Posted 2 April 12 hours ago, chapero82 said: We had a chance to sack him and get in Emeri before Villa got him. He would have got us ticking I think we didn’t though. Fans wanted him but Emeri was never accepting anything that wasn’t a big project with an open cheque book. He wanted his people in the club and the ability to grow the club to challenge. We were already in hot water with FFP, there’s no way he would have joined in our situation. He has a history of being picky with his projects, he turned down newcastle just the season before and that was with all their new cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 2 April Share Posted 2 April 13 hours ago, Babylon said: Great, you have no idea if it would have made a difference though. We were still shit when he went. Because they put another 'shit' manager in charge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 11 April Share Posted 11 April Twins on the way for Top and his wife! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersfox Posted 11 April Share Posted 11 April 5 minutes ago, Hales said: Twins on the way for Top and his wife! Final straw for me tbf. Get this ovum splitter out of my club!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Filbert Posted 11 April Share Posted 11 April Top shagger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john ridley Posted 11 April Share Posted 11 April Blimey didn't hang around ,pity he's not that decisive running a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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