King Power Out

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, Great Boos Up said:

Still love the idea of lots of Cambodia flags for those that still go. Keeps the back the lads happy and the KP faithful quiet while sending a massive FU to Top.

It's this or one of Tom Hopper

Edited 7 April by Gamble92

[AKCJ]

5 hours ago, The Doctor said:

oh that's fine then, give them the keys to the city and an honorary degree from the unis for their service

 

Me and the boys off to get our sausage roll t-shirts.

[OntarioFox]

Because I'm a sad bastard, I've just gone through every season in our history for the sake of pinpointing just how bad this year is, and barring us somehow winning 5/5 there are only two comparable years in terms of league finish - 90-91, when Tony James kept us up on a sheer technicality (there were 2 relegation places instead of 3 that year due to the league restructure) and of course 07-08, when we went down on the final day with 52 points. I'm discounting the League One season which is objectively our worst league finish ever, not least because next season could very easily eclipse it and then some.

 

That 90-91 season is our worst ever, with a points tally of 50 in the second tier - in the era of 3 points for a win - and a bottom 3 finish. We currently have 41 points with 5 games to spare, and the absolute maximum we can get is 56. We need to find 3 wins from somewhere to ensure this is not our worst EVER points return at this level, whether we survive or not.

 

Why am I posting this in the King Power Out thread? Should be obvious really - this is only the third time in our 142 year history that we've been in this position with five games left, and on both occasions we finished in the bottom three. It's not normal however much the 'we were in League One once' weirdos like to dismiss it as some sort of return to normality.

 

The only difference this time is that, if our record low points tally is broken, it's very possibly going to be due to the points deduction our ownership led us to through their mismanagement. That's never happened in our 142 year history in any position, but Top Rudkin and co. led us here.

 

Part of me is torn - on one hand, if we go down within that six-point margin, the finger SHOULD be pointed entirely at the ownership for bringing the deduction upon us. On the other hand, there are enough morons already crying foul about selective justice that it might galvanise them and have the opposite effect, serving to insulate them from further criticism (a kind of 'oh they took the punishment, how unfair, now we rebuild with Top' rewriting history kind of thing). I absolutely would not put it past the ownership to at least try that false narrative rather than falling on their sword and selling the club as they damn well should.

 

If we somehow fail to pull three or more points from our remaining games, it's a moot point anyway - deduction or not, it's our worst season ever. At this point though, I think if relegation has to happen it needs to be within that six point deduction. As godawful as this squad and management have been, it gives people someone else to blame - a kind of 'oh it's not Top, it's the players, it's the managers, they would have gone down even without the deduction' while wilfully glossing over who was responsible for bringing them all to the club in the first place. No thanks. There should be nowhere for Top, Rudkin, KP and their sycophants to hide for what they've done to our club.

 

*Sigh* ... bring on Swansea I guess.

Edited 9 April by OntarioFox

[Pliskin]

55 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

Because I'm a sad bastard, I've just gone through every season in our history for the sake of pinpointing just how bad this year is, and barring us somehow winning 5/5 there are only two comparable years in terms of league finish - 90-91, when Tony James kept us up on a sheer technicality (there were 2 relegation places instead of 3 that year due to the league restructure) and of course 07-08, when we went down on the final day with 52 points. I'm discounting the League One season which is objectively our worst league finish ever, not least because next season could very easily eclipse it and then some.

 

That 90-91 season is our worst ever, with a points tally of 50 in the second tier - in the era of 3 points for a win - and a bottom 3 finish. We currently have 41 points with 5 games to spare, and the absolute maximum we can get is 56. We need to find 3 wins from somewhere to ensure this is not our worst EVER points return at this level, whether we survive or not.

 

Why am I posting this in the King Power Out thread? Should be obvious really - this is only the third time in our 142 year history that we've been in this position with five games left, and on both occasions we finished in the bottom three. It's not normal however much the 'we were in League One once' weirdos like to dismiss it as some sort of return to normality.

 

The only difference this time is that, if our record low points tally is broken, it's very possibly going to be due to the points deduction our ownership led us to through their mismanagement. That's never happened in our 142 year history in any position, but Top Rudkin and co. led us here.

 

Part of me is torn - on one hand, if we go down within that six-point margin, the finger SHOULD be pointed entirely at the ownership for bringing the deduction upon us. On the other hand, there are enough morons already crying foul about selective justice that it might galvanise them and have the opposite effect, serving to insulate them from further criticism (a kind of 'oh they took the punishment, how unfair, now we rebuild with Top' rewriting history kind of thing). I absolutely would not put it past the ownership to at least try that false narrative rather than falling on their sword and selling the club as they damn well should.

 

If we somehow fail to pull three or more points from our remaining games, it's a moot point anyway - deduction or not, it's our worst season ever. At this point though, I think if relegation has to happen it needs to be within that six point deduction. As godawful as this squad and management have been, it gives people someone else to blame - a kind of 'oh it's not Top, it's the players, it's the managers, they would have gone down even without the deduction' while wilfully glossing over who was responsible for bringing them all to the club in the first place. No thanks. There should be nowhere for Top, Rudkin, KP and their sycophants to hide for what they've done to our club.

 

*Sigh* ... bring on Swansea I guess.

The point about us being relegated and blaming the six point deduction is EXACTLY the stance the club will take. Top wont shoulder the blame for what’s happened, they will just blame the points deduction and just kick out some bollocks about “being ambitious” punished for trying to compete etc, etc…..

 

What is more alarming is the sheer amount of people who seemingly either don’t get the situation properly, or still think we’re being hard done by…..

 

No wonder we can mobilise a proper protest, when you have got the likes of ‘Tim nice but dim’ on Leicesterfan TV, constantly sounding bemused at every announcement, poor result and shit decision on social media……  and that’s the narrative most fans will run with, it’s the deduction….

 

Well it isn’t, as I said two wins probably keeping up. Rowett has mustered up one win….. it’s not the deduction that’s sent us down, that is merely the product of the tests that run the club. 

 

[Footballwipe]

37 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The point about us being relegated and blaming the six point deduction is EXACTLY the stance the club will take. Top wont shoulder the blame for what’s happened, they will just blame the points deduction and just kick out some bollocks about “being ambitious” punished for trying to compete etc, etc…..

 

What is more alarming is the sheer amount of people who seemingly either don’t get the situation properly, or still think we’re being hard done by…..

 

No wonder we can mobilise a proper protest, when you have got the likes of ‘Tim nice but dim’ on Leicesterfan TV, constantly sounding bemused at every announcement, poor result and shit decision on social media……  and that’s the narrative most fans will run with, it’s the deduction….

 

Well it isn’t, as I said two wins probably keeping up. Rowett has mustered up one win….. it’s not the deduction that’s sent us down, that is merely the product of the tests that run the club. 

 

Interesting. I was watching SSN this morning and on their rolling news text bit they specifically said that the deduction, when it was implemented, took us from 17th to 20th. We've dropped into the relegation zone since this deduction, not directly because of it. Our incompetence has got us there. Even being half decent would have seen us comfortably safe with the deduction.

 

Problem also is that relegation will be shrugged off by the loyalists as an EFL conspiracy, and if we do storm through League One next season that temporary feel-good feeling will wipe away all doubt yet again, and the best owners ever narrative will be back with force. 

 

Wouldn't surprise me if they did some kind of narrative about winning three separate divisions under their ownership as some kind of achievement.

 

I'm still so, so intrigued to know from the loyalists how low will do? Mid table next season in league one? Another relegation? What would it take to actually make them realise what is happening here?

[Lionator]

One thing the club have done really well since 2015, is that they’ve sanitised the matchday experience and I really think that’s why we have so few fans protesting. The profile of fan who would be protesting ultimately either got priced out, banned or left a while ago when the club took its current direction, and don’t have the motivation to engage. Look at the amount of local lads that now follow the likes of Coalville, Harborough, Quorn etc. These are the ones that would be leading big protests, but they’re not bothered and for good reason. Because the club planted the seeds so that if this sort of situation did happen, they’d be safe from the sort of people that would hold them to account. 

[ealingfox]

8 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Interesting. I was watching SSN this morning and on their rolling news text bit they specifically said that the deduction, when it was implemented, took us from 17th to 20th. We've dropped into the relegation zone since this deduction, not directly because of it. Our incompetence has got us there. Even being half decent would have seen us comfortably safe with the deduction.

 

Problem also is that relegation will be shrugged off by the loyalists as an EFL conspiracy, and if we do storm through League One next season that temporary feel-good feeling will wipe away all doubt yet again, and the best owners ever narrative will be back with force. 

 

Wouldn't surprise me if they did some kind of narrative about winning three separate divisions under their ownership as some kind of achievement.

 

I'm still so, so intrigued to know from the loyalists how low will do? Mid table next season in league one? Another relegation? What would it take to actually make them realise what is happening here?

 

I don't think they will now. They're like Trump supporters really, admitting they were wrong now invites so much culpability and embarrassment on their parts that they can't do it. It will always be that there isn't really a problem, and if there is it's someone else to blame.

[Rubbersoul]

3 minutes ago, Lionator said:

One thing the club have done really well since 2015, is that they’ve sanitised the matchday experience and I really think that’s why we have so few fans protesting. The profile of fan who would be protesting ultimately either got priced out, banned or left a while ago when the club took its current direction, and don’t have the motivation to engage. Look at the amount of local lads that now follow the likes of Coalville, Harborough, Quorn etc. These are the ones that would be leading big protests, but they’re not bothered and for good reason. Because the club planted the seeds so that if this sort of situation did happen, they’d be safe from the sort of people that would hold them to account. 

Absolutely bang on. They’ve created a match going fanbase THEY want 

[john ridley]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

The point about us being relegated and blaming the six point deduction is EXACTLY the stance the club will take. Top wont shoulder the blame for what’s happened, they will just blame the points deduction and just kick out some bollocks about “being ambitious” punished for trying to compete etc, etc…..

 

What is more alarming is the sheer amount of people who seemingly either don’t get the situation properly, or still think we’re being hard done by…..

 

No wonder we can mobilise a proper protest, when you have got the likes of ‘Tim nice but dim’ on Leicesterfan TV, constantly sounding bemused at every announcement, poor result and shit decision on social media……  and that’s the narrative most fans will run with, it’s the deduction….

 

Well it isn’t, as I said two wins probably keeping up. Rowett has mustered up one win….. it’s not the deduction that’s sent us down, that is merely the product of the tests that run the club. 

 

Not sure what they'll spin if we're  relegated  by more than the 6pt deduction, which is entirely  possible. 

[purpleronnie]

11 minutes ago, Lionator said:

One thing the club have done really well since 2015, is that they’ve sanitised the matchday experience and I really think that’s why we have so few fans protesting. The profile of fan who would be protesting ultimately either got priced out, banned or left a while ago when the club took its current direction, and don’t have the motivation to engage. Look at the amount of local lads that now follow the likes of Coalville, Harborough, Quorn etc. These are the ones that would be leading big protests, but they’re not bothered and for good reason. Because the club planted the seeds so that if this sort of situation did happen, they’d be safe from the sort of people that would hold them to account. 

Said similiar a few times, they've done a great job, and its not just here either, lots of english clubs have had it done at all levels.  Sad but thats the truth.  

[Stadt]

There will be more excuses to come.

 

Covid

FFP

PSR

The PL

The EFL

 

Next will be National Insurance Contributions, energy costs, McCarron, you name it.

 

In one sense, if we're going to go bust can't we get it over and done with.

Edited 9 April by Stadt

[Blue ROI]

2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

There will be more excuses to come.

 

Covid

FFP

PSR

The PL

The EFL

 

Next will be National Insurance Contributions, energy cost, McCarron, you name it.

 

In one sense, if we're going to go bust can't we get it over and done with.

Dont forget the real culprits. 

 

The evil and dastardly Union FS

Edited 9 April by Blue ROI

[los dedos]

4 hours ago, Lionator said:

One thing the club have done really well since 2015, is that they’ve sanitised the matchday experience and I really think that’s why we have so few fans protesting. The profile of fan who would be protesting ultimately either got priced out, banned or left a while ago when the club took its current direction, and don’t have the motivation to engage. Look at the amount of local lads that now follow the likes of Coalville, Harborough, Quorn etc. These are the ones that would be leading big protests, but they’re not bothered and for good reason. Because the club planted the seeds so that if this sort of situation did happen, they’d be safe from the sort of people that would hold them to account. 

Bang on,  I've attended  a few Harboro and Nomads games this season and type that would be in the kop singing and contributing to the atmosphere are now moving to Non league. 

Last week between they had an attendance of over 1500 including a lot of young lads priced out of the professional game .

Edited 9 April by los dedos

[grth2004]

taken from Fan Advisory Board meeting 
 

AGENDA ITEMS

FOOTBALL INSIGHTS

Reporting structures and processes of the Club

•

It was noted that this topic falls outside the scope of the Fan Engagement Framework. However,

insight from the Football Department was shared to provide additional context.

•

Jon Rudkin provided detailed insight into football reporting structures and recruitment processes.

•

It was explained that the incoming Sporting Director will oversee football performance strategy,

reporting to Jon Rudkin as Chief Football Officer.

•

Members asked about plans to improve current performance and the steps being taken to move the

Club forward. The response acknowledged the immediate priority of improving results on the pitch

and efforts to provide the team with as much support as possible from all quarters to achieve this.

•

Members raised that there had been a more positive atmosphere during recent first halves but

visible frustration during latter stages was noted. There was a discussion about the influence of

supporter sentiment on players and performance and some Members said sustained positivity

from fans could have a measurable impact. It was felt that any messaging around backing the team

should be authentic and organic rather than campaign-driven by the Club.

[The Year Of The Fox]

6 hours ago, Pliskin said:

The point about us being relegated and blaming the six point deduction is EXACTLY the stance the club will take. Top wont shoulder the blame for what’s happened, they will just blame the points deduction and just kick out some bollocks about “being ambitious” punished for trying to compete etc, etc…..

 

What is more alarming is the sheer amount of people who seemingly either don’t get the situation properly, or still think we’re being hard done by…..

 

No wonder we can mobilise a proper protest, when you have got the likes of ‘Tim nice but dim’ on Leicesterfan TV, constantly sounding bemused at every announcement, poor result and shit decision on social media……  and that’s the narrative most fans will run with, it’s the deduction….

 

Well it isn’t, as I said two wins probably keeping up. Rowett has mustered up one win….. it’s not the deduction that’s sent us down, that is merely the product of the tests that run the club. 

 

It might be a poor barometer (I don’t think it is as most of the blue mongies backing Top throughout this season are found on social media) but based on that alone, the support for them has visibly waned this last 7 days. Reality has hit.

[AjcW]

Interesting that the Feb attendees included the commercial director who hadn’t even been announced at that point. 
 

My favourite bit was “Jon Rudkin was formally introduced” given it was his first attendance  

[Kitchandro]

5 hours ago, Rubbersoul said:

Absolutely bang on. They’ve created a match going fanbase THEY want 

Some of us could see it coming, although to be fair this is true across all football clubs in the modern era. It was already happening under Mandaric.
 

Even back then I could see that football was drifting away from what I believed it was supposed to be - and the clappers, goal music, standing-shaming, gold on kits, social media tone, stadium rebranding and prices should all have been red flags over the years.

[Fox96]

8 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

this is only the third time in our 142 year history that we've been in this position with five games left, and on both occasions we finished in the bottom three. It's not normal however much the 'we were in League One once' weirdos like to dismiss it as some sort of return to normality.

 

This is 100% it for me. The amount of "we were in League One before" is really baffling considering we've been in League One the same amount of seasons as Premier League winning ones.

[LCFCJohn]

5 minutes ago, Fox96 said:

 

This is 100% it for me. The amount of "we were in League One before" is really baffling considering we've been in League One the same amount of seasons as Premier League winning ones.

Literally the same point I made recently. We have been League 1 the same number of times as not just winning the top flight, but the FA Cup and Champions League appearances, could even say quarter final.
 

Why is League 1 therefore seen as something we should expect and accept?

 

@OntarioFox backs this up with the data about this only being the third time we’ll have been in the bottom 3 of the second tier. We have also finished 2nd and 3rd in the top tier, so again, it’s not even like a close shave to being relegated to the third tier is more likely than a close shave to winning the top flight. Could point to 4 FA Cup finals before we won it as well. Not to mention 3 League Cups and the 5th place finishes (now gets you in the CL by the way).

 

Far more evidence to suggest this underachievement is even more of an outlier than our best achievements.

[Paninistickers]

6 hours ago, Lionator said:

One thing the club have done really well since 2015, is that they’ve sanitised the matchday experience and I really think that’s why we have so few fans protesting. The profile of fan who would be protesting ultimately either got priced out, banned or left a while ago when the club took its current direction, and don’t have the motivation to engage. Look at the amount of local lads that now follow the likes of Coalville, Harborough, Quorn etc. These are the ones that would be leading big protests, but they’re not bothered and for good reason. Because the club planted the seeds so that if this sort of situation did happen, they’d be safe from the sort of people that would hold them to account. 

My go to example of the club trying to manipulate the demographic of the fanbase was the charity shield. 

 

FA Cup with only 6000 tickets they club just about got away with. The core KP support base - cucks, eunuchs, ultra low testosterone and prostate reduction junkies - didn't go to the cup final such was the fear of (lifted) covid restrictions. But the club managed to keep the 6k fairly within range. But look at that 6k. It looked like a normal supporter base. No Muppets. 

 

The charity shield, with almost unlimited tickets, you could sense the panic within the club. Obviously the usual pathetic KP specimens were still too cowed, too subservient to venture far. The club resisted and resisted as long as possible widening the ticket eligibility - incremental points steps - until, disgustingly, at 24 hours notice they put tickets on general sale for the Friday morning (!) ahead of Sunday's game. 

 

Edit to add the European games the following season. Was easier getting a visa for North Korea than getting a ticket. Plus the Spanish inquisition when you went to pick tickets up.

 

 

Edited 9 April by Paninistickers

[Leicester_Loyal]

8 hours ago, Lionator said:

One thing the club have done really well since 2015, is that they’ve sanitised the matchday experience and I really think that’s why we have so few fans protesting. The profile of fan who would be protesting ultimately either got priced out, banned or left a while ago when the club took its current direction, and don’t have the motivation to engage. Look at the amount of local lads that now follow the likes of Coalville, Harborough, Quorn etc. These are the ones that would be leading big protests, but they’re not bothered and for good reason. Because the club planted the seeds so that if this sort of situation did happen, they’d be safe from the sort of people that would hold them to account. 

This is spot on, most of these type of lads have given up, moved on or been banned. Very few remain active. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

My go to example of the club trying to manipulate the demographic of the fanbase was the charity shield. 

 

FA Cup with only 6000 tickets they club just about got away with. The core KP support base - cucks, eunuchs, ultra low testosterone and prostate reduction junkies - didn't go to the cup final such was the fear of (lifted) covid restrictions. But the club managed to keep the 6k fairly within range. But look at that 6k. It looked like a normal supporter base. No Muppets. 

 

The charity shield, with almost unlimited tickets, you could sense the panic within the club. Obviously the usual pathetic KP specimens were still too cowed, too subservient to venture far. The club resisted and resisted as long as possible widening the ticket eligibility - incremental points steps - until, disgustingly, at 24 hours notice they put tickets on general sale for the Friday morning (!) ahead of Sunday's game. 

 

Edit to add the European games the following season. Was easier getting a visa for North Korea than getting a ticket. Plus the Spanish inquisition when you went to pick tickets up.

 

 

And the lack of any acknowledgement from those who went to Warsaw 

 

All black jacket wearers.

 

Cant be praising that 

[Les-TA-Jon]

10 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

Because I'm a sad bastard, I've just gone through every season in our history for the sake of pinpointing just how bad this year is, and barring us somehow winning 5/5 there are only two comparable years in terms of league finish - 90-91, when Tony James kept us up on a sheer technicality (there were 2 relegation places instead of 3 that year due to the league restructure) and of course 07-08, when we went down on the final day with 52 points. I'm discounting the League One season which is objectively our worst league finish ever, not least because next season could very easily eclipse it and then some.

 

That 90-91 season is our worst ever, with a points tally of 50 in the second tier - in the era of 3 points for a win - and a bottom 3 finish. We currently have 41 points with 5 games to spare, and the absolute maximum we can get is 56. We need to find 3 wins from somewhere to ensure this is not our worst EVER points return at this level, whether we survive or not.

 

Why am I posting this in the King Power Out thread? Should be obvious really - this is only the third time in our 142 year history that we've been in this position with five games left, and on both occasions we finished in the bottom three. It's not normal however much the 'we were in League One once' weirdos like to dismiss it as some sort of return to normality.

 

The only difference this time is that, if our record low points tally is broken, it's very possibly going to be due to the points deduction our ownership led us to through their mismanagement. That's never happened in our 142 year history in any position, but Top Rudkin and co. led us here.

 

Part of me is torn - on one hand, if we go down within that six-point margin, the finger SHOULD be pointed entirely at the ownership for bringing the deduction upon us. On the other hand, there are enough morons already crying foul about selective justice that it might galvanise them and have the opposite effect, serving to insulate them from further criticism (a kind of 'oh they took the punishment, how unfair, now we rebuild with Top' rewriting history kind of thing). I absolutely would not put it past the ownership to at least try that false narrative rather than falling on their sword and selling the club as they damn well should.

 

If we somehow fail to pull three or more points from our remaining games, it's a moot point anyway - deduction or not, it's our worst season ever. At this point though, I think if relegation has to happen it needs to be within that six point deduction. As godawful as this squad and management have been, it gives people someone else to blame - a kind of 'oh it's not Top, it's the players, it's the managers, they would have gone down even without the deduction' while wilfully glossing over who was responsible for bringing them all to the club in the first place. No thanks. There should be nowhere for Top, Rudkin, KP and their sycophants to hide for what they've done to our club.

 

*Sigh* ... bring on Swansea I guess.

- We’ve won the 2nd division more than anyone else. 
- We’ve been promoted to the 1st division more than anyone else. 
- Being where we are isn’t normal.

- Being in the 3rd division isn’t normal. 
 

And this time in unlike anything else since it’s happened from the position of greatest strength the club has ever had 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

18 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

And the lack of any acknowledgement from those who went to Warsaw 

 

All black jacket wearers.

 

Cant be praising that 

Had to get bullied into even admitting there were any of our fans there. They hate the lads, they always have done and always will.

[The Year Of The Fox]

4 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Had to get bullied into even admitting there were any of our fans there. They hate the lads, they always have done and always will.

Yep

 

 

Though they did make an effort to recognise those who went to Napoli a couple of months later didn’t they?

 

Only for the reasons you correctly say