Is Demarai Gray an enigma?

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, hackneyfox said:

Who offered £25m for him?

Bournemouth I was told.

[Ecdysiast]

He might be if he could spell it......

[Wymsey]

He should appreciate that Leicester see the potential that he has.

If he hadn't done well in football, he might have had a different lifestyle such as being part of many Birmingham gangs etc.

Despite not being intelligent in general, considering when he had a near-miss with a moving helicopter blade.., the club is lucky to have him and that he's starting to show good glimpses of his potential.

[Beechey]

36 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

He should appreciate that Leicester see the potential that he has.

If he hadn't done well in football, he might have had a different lifestyle such as being part of many Birmingham gangs etc.

Despite not being intelligent in general, considering when he had a near-miss with a moving helicopter blade.., the club is lucky to have him and that he's starting to show good glimpses of his potential.

Not fair to judge his complete intelligence from that. Helicopter blades move extremely quickly, making them very hard to see, and he was side on to the tail rotor, making it even more difficult to see. Obviously logic would tell you to watch out for the tail rotor of a helicopter, but he may have never been close enough to one to really know where they are (many believe they'r much higher up from the lowest point of the aircraft than they actually are).

[RumbleFox]

1 hour ago, Wymeswold fox said:

He should appreciate that Leicester see the potential that he has.

If he hadn't done well in football, he might have had a different lifestyle such as being part of many Birmingham gangs etc.

Despite not being intelligent in general, considering when he had a near-miss with a moving helicopter blade.., the club is lucky to have him and that he's starting to show good glimpses of his potential.

Why would he have been in gangs if he wasn't a footballer.  Are all of us in gangs?  Are you in a gang?  Am I?  I like the sound of being in a gang.  Can I be in your gang? X

Edited 13 December 2017 by RumbleFox

[ARCHER]

6 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Why would he have been in gangs if he wasn't a footballer.  Are all of us in gangs?  Are you in a gang?  Am I?  I liked the sound of being in a gang.  Can I be in your gang? X

Is that you Gary?

[Bluetintedspecs]

8 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Why would he have been in gangs if he wasn't a footballer.  Are all of us in gangs?  Are you in a gang?  Am I?  I liked the sound of being in a gang.  Can I be in your gang? X

Come on come on come on come on.

[lifted*fox]

in a gang

 

[Head Honcho]

He's just a stereotype...lol

[Samilktray]

2 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

He should appreciate that Leicester see the potential that he has.

If he hadn't done well in football, he might have had a different lifestyle such as being part of many Birmingham gangs etc.

Despite not being intelligent in general, considering when he had a near-miss with a moving helicopter blade.., the club is lucky to have him and that he's starting to show good glimpses of his potential.

This is absolutely the most ridiculous post I've ever seen

[ZeGuy]

4 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

He should appreciate that Leicester see the potential that he has.

If he hadn't done well in football, he might have had a different lifestyle such as being part of many Birmingham gangs etc.

Despite not being intelligent in general, considering when he had a near-miss with a moving helicopter blade.., the club is lucky to have him and that he's starting to show good glimpses of his potential.

Edited 13 December 2017 by ZeGuy

[Lovejoy]

Surely looking at a ban after last night?

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, Lovejoy said:

Surely looking at a ban after last night?

Seems to be a missing angle on the replays - he may have caught him but no conclusive evidence that he did make any contact 

[AKCJ]

I think he'll be okay to be honest.

 

If we get to mid day and we've heard nothing then surely he'll be fine?

[LcFc_Smiv]

16 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

Surely looking at a ban after last night?

Not sure, it's a very very soft penalty but there looks to be some contact although as previously stated we're a camera angle away from being sure. He's definitely played for it, but he could easily argue contact from walker knocked him off his stride. If they do ban him they risk setting a dangerous precedent for how much or how little would constitute a foul/dive.

[goose2010]

9 minutes ago, LcFc_Smiv said:

Not sure, it's a very very soft penalty but there looks to be some contact although as previously stated we're a camera angle away from being sure. He's definitely played for it, but he could easily argue contact from walker knocked him off his stride. If they do ban him they risk setting a dangerous precedent for how much or how little would constitute a foul/dive.

they have already set a dangerous precedent really by banning Lanzini - there was more contact on him than Gray. So if they dont ban Gray it really does make it interesting for the future as i wouldnt be impressed with I was a West Ham fan.

[Johnthefoxrayner]

On 11/12/2017 at 17:17, Legend_in_blue said:

He's a very good player for his age.  Think back to when Heskey was about his age - I think the lad has more potential, albeit in a different position.

Spot on, totally agree with the. 

[HankMarvin]

On 13/12/2017 at 18:12, Beechey said:

Not fair to judge his complete intelligence from that. Helicopter blades move extremely quickly, making them very hard to see, and he was side on to the tail rotor, making it even more difficult to see. Obviously logic would tell you to watch out for the tail rotor of a helicopter, but he may have never been close enough to one to really know where they are (many believe they'r much higher up from the lowest point of the aircraft than they actually are).

Part of the story that’s missing is he was trying to take a couple of inches off his flat top 

 

[FLAN]

Did anyone else notice how a few times when we were piling forward he stayed glued to the touch line not making runs into space?  I wonder if the messages he is getting are making him think too much and he loses a little something from that. Maguire made a great run forward and he just stood watching offering no option at all 

[Manwell Pablo]

Hope he is banned as it's a blatant dive

 

Although they need to get consistent with punishment, stupid booking a player if he is caught attempting simulation by the ref yet he gets a ban if it's retrospective. Time to upgrade it to a straight red.

[st albans fox]

56 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

they have already set a dangerous precedent really by banning Lanzini - there was more contact on him than Gray. So if they dont ban Gray it really does make it interesting for the future as i wouldnt be impressed with I was a West Ham fan.

Lanzini was on his way down before any contact - that’s the difference

 

The pont is whether the contact is sufficient to warrant the reaction. Niasse for Everton was clearly in contact with the palace defender but his reaction was to theatrically throw himself to the floor. Given the speed at which gray was running at, he would hopefully be able to point to any contact throwing him off balance. 

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Hope he is banned as it's a blatant dive

 

Although they need to get consistent with punishment, stupid booking a player if he is caught attempting simulation by the ref yet he gets a ban if it's retrospective. Time to upgrade it to a straight red.

The ban only comes into play if a penalty has been awarded - hence the official has been conned.  If the ref sees it during the game then the yellow is seen as sufficient as no gain has been made by the player. 

 

If it becomes a statutory red for diving then officials will be less likely to give the decision as they wouldn’t want to send a player off incorrectly. With VAR coming in, this will all become irrelevant anyway as players are going to become less likely to dive as will be spotted. Perhaps the red card sanction could come in with VAR. 

[Manwell Pablo]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

The ban only comes into play if a penalty has been awarded - hence the official has been conned.  If the ref sees it during the game then the yellow is seen as sufficient as no gain has been made by the player. 

 

If it becomes a statutory red for diving then officials will be less likely to give the decision as they wouldn’t want to send a player off incorrectly. With VAR coming in, this will all become irrelevant anyway as players are going to become less likely to dive as will be spotted. Perhaps the red card sanction could come in with VAR. 

 

Not really fussed, literally the only case of deliberately  breaking the rules where the punishment is massively different depending on whether you are caught or not. 

 

They seldom give yellows as it is. 

 

[Winchesterfox]

Let's be honest - Gray dived.  

 

I want to see games decided by skill and effort, not by who is the best at falling over under minimal or no contact and fooling the referee.  The only way we are going to spot diving consistently is through video technology.  And the only way we are going to stop it is through a ban that's long enough to discourage players from doing it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Magictv]

2 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Not really fussed, literally the only case of deliberately  breaking the rules where the punishment is massively different depending on whether you are caught or not. 

 

They seldom give yellows as it is. 

 

Personally I'd leave it as a yellow during the game. I'd just change it so you can be banned retrospectively as well, even if you were spotted by the ref in game.