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lgfualol

lgfualol

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3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

It'll be interesting to see what shit appointment they make once they get rid of Puel. 

 

This is all going to end badly for us. Said it before but relegation wouldn't surprise me.

 

Pretty sure some on here would take relegation if it meant going back to hoofing and pashun

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Jimmy

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6 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Rather direct football with chances created than not having a shot on goal and passing the ball backwards 

but what we had was direct football and not creating chances and a bottom 3 place that's why Shakespeare was sacked

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fuchsntf

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6 hours ago, Bablemikey said:

There is a management team in place to support the manager and ensure that his ideas and instructions are fully understood and acted upon so it feels a bit of a weak excuse to me. However if the players don’t buy in and don’t want to play for him then it is a massive problem and the manager will go regardless of how good or forward thinking he might be.

Thats why AG the Moment ,I have no thing but disdain for a number of the players,these guys aint

stupid,and incompetent,AS footballers,that they put in such pathetic performances has individuals,

just because of any managers tactics.They get paid enourmous amounts AS PL players,AS I have

Mentioned before,they would all be prancing around Helling ans would be New Club,they are flexable,

and can change their styles to suit a would be New team. No this Blamage and späte of downright

Pathetic,turgid performances,are on their backs...Coincidence of 3 managers,and they still could

Deliver performances consistently for what they earn...More dumb the Fans for protecting them.

Klopps L'pool took time,Peps MC,Potchitinnos wards had their struggles,but the players showed

they wanted it,and still earnt their pay.Big Sam didnt allow his expensive mudlarks time to

play and have immature expensive kids attitudes,out lot are just taking the piss!!!

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Fox92

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1 hour ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Rather direct football with chances created than not having a shot on goal and passing the ball backwards 

Direct football is shit and was shit under Shakespeare.

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StanSP

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1 hour ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Rather direct football with chances created than not having a shot on goal and passing the ball backwards 

i know recently perhaps not the case but I remember a couple of games where we have created chances but the players haven't finished them off. Most blatant example that screams out is against Everton away when we could have had the game killed off. Iheanacho missed twice within a couple of seconds, Maguire had a free header which he should have buried. 

There's other games as well which I can't think of where games could have been wrapped up. You can't blame Puel for chances missed. When chances not created, then yes. But Puel was getting chastised before games occured where chance creation was minimal.

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Clever Fox

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Delighted with the news today and look forward to seeing Puel continue his rebuilding.  He reminds me in many ways of the great Alf Ramsey.  A quiet disposition but a forward thinking Coach behind his quiet persona.

You don't build a team in a few games. It takes Months and years, coup!ed with games to in still new systems into a squad. People complaining about some of his selections, But how is he supposed to judge the squad without seeing them play in the heat of battle. 

He's been trying different things and combinations knowing we're safe, which is The time to do it.

The retained list should give a good indication of where we are going as a Club. I expect the retained list to be quite long with possibly a few surprises on it.

With a few additions and a good pre-season things will improve. Who knows maybe he'll take us to a Cup Final next season.

Keep the faith, The Owners have.

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31 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Delighted with the news today and look forward to seeing Puel continue his rebuilding.  He reminds me in many ways of the great Alf Ramsey.  A quiet disposition but a forward thinking Coach behind his quiet persona.

You don't build a team in a few games. It takes Months and years, coup!ed with games to in still new systems into a squad. People complaining about some of his selections, But how is he supposed to judge the squad without seeing them play in the heat of battle. 

He's been trying different things and combinations knowing we're safe, which is The time to do it.

The retained list should give a good indication of where we are going as a Club. I expect the retained list to be quite long with possibly a few surprises on it.

With a few additions and a good pre-season things will improve. Who knows maybe he'll take us to a Cup Final next season.

Keep the faith, The Owners have.

Like they did with Claudio after a similar statement... I wouldn't be so sure. He has 3 games, as Percy has suggested.

 

He hasn't had a few games.. He's had since last October and a full transfer window. 4 wins in 18 games. No players improved under him. 5-0 drubbing by Palace. 

 

i'd like to see some evidence of progression before allowing him to stay in charge, for what should be a huge summer of rebuilding for us. 

 

Finishing these 3 games strongly is an absolute must, otherwise he really hasn't earned or shown us why he should be allowed to stay beyond that. 

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UPinCarolina

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3 hours ago, STUHILL said:

Like they did with Claudio after a similar statement... I wouldn't be so sure. He has 3 games, as Percy has suggested.

 

He hasn't had a few games.. He's had since last October and a full transfer window. 4 wins in 18 games. No players improved under him. 5-0 drubbing by Palace. 

 

i'd like to see some evidence of progression before allowing him to stay in charge, for what should be a huge summer of rebuilding for us. 

 

Finishing these 3 games strongly is an absolute must, otherwise he really hasn't earned or shown us why he should be allowed to stay beyond that. 

The fact we have only 3 games left is precisely why I buy the owner’s statement at face value.

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Ian Nacho

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Unless we're absolutely shocking in our last 3 games I think we should give him a chance. On the train after the Palace game I was thinking he's got to go, but now I've had a week to digest it all I would like to see him given a chance. I just don't want us to be in a position in 12 months time where we're in exactly the same position. I can't defend what's been going on, on the pitch, recently but we'll have to see in these next few games. If we show absolutely no fight nor quality I think he'll be gone, however, if we show some hunger, passion and desire, with a little bit of quality, regardless of results I think we'll keep him. 

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27 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Unless we're absolutely shocking in our last 3 games I think we should give him a chance. On the train after the Palace game I was thinking he's got to go, but now I've had a week to digest it all I would like to see him given a chance. I just don't want us to be in a position in 12 months time where we're in exactly the same position. I can't defend what's been going on, on the pitch, recently but we'll have to see in these next few games. If we show absolutely no fight nor quality I think he'll be gone, however, if we show some hunger, passion and desire, with a little bit of quality, regardless of results I think we'll keep him. 

....genuine question, why should it be any different, just asking?

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5 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

Delighted with the news today and look forward to seeing Puel continue his rebuilding.  He reminds me in many ways of the great Alf Ramsey.  A quiet disposition but a forward thinking Coach behind his quiet persona.

You don't build a team in a few games. It takes Months and years, coup!ed with games to in still new systems into a squad. People complaining about some of his selections, But how is he supposed to judge the squad without seeing them play in the heat of battle. 

He's been trying different things and combinations knowing we're safe, which is The time to do it.

The retained list should give a good indication of where we are going as a Club. I expect the retained list to be quite long with possibly a few surprises on it.

With a few additions and a good pre-season things will improve. Who knows maybe he'll take us to a Cup Final next season.

Keep the faith, The Owners have.

Admittedly I have moaned about Puel in recent weeks due to our current run (not least because of the fact that our season is showing all the hallmarks of how Southampton ended last season under his reign) but of course long term is what matters at any football club, not instant impressiveness. I don't know what Puel's track record is like in close seasons during previous seasons elsewhere but Southampton's close season under Puel in summer 2016 (after Koeman's departure from there) was probably not great as he'd lost Wanjama to Spurs and Mane to Liverpool. He did bring in Gabbiadini who was a good striker who hit the ground running there. Anyway I think he at least deserves a close season and then next season here. Southampton  are now staring down the barrel of a gun as a consequence of their sacking Puel at the end of the last campaign and replacing him with somebody who was, let's face it was unproven and ultimately clueless at Premier League management level (Manuel Pellegrini).

 

As for here, then sacking Puel at the end of this season would provide us with more problems I feel, especially as whoever we brought in to replace him - be it Marco Silva, Pearson Mk.III or Benitez would effectively be starting from scrath, not to mention have the World Cup distraction to contend with .

 

In a way Puel reminds me of Brian Little's quiet persona and gradually getting it right on the pitch. Little saw us reach three play off finals with the third of them resulting in our promotion. A shame that he left for sentimental reasons for Villa when we were going through that adverse period in our maiden Premiership season back in 1994-95 but that's football.

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Bunyip

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13 hours ago, Jimmy said:

or maybe the owners brought him in to do a job which involves offloading a lot of the players that are unhappy and we are in no danger of relegation so they see no need to sack him

Any manager can offload players it doesn't take a specialist to be brought in. and yes no danger of relegation this season but all the signs are there for next season if he is allowed to stay, his points tally to games played is appalling.

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Cropwellfox

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He’ll hide behind injuries for the next few games of turgid football, still refusing to play Dragovic in his best position, will comment post match that the progress of the young players is interesting and that the players will come back next season with intensity and focus despite having shown no signs of it again. Probably be another player or two limping off injured which is happening far too regularly now and a comedy Amartey sending off against Spurs thrown in. How the owners are supporting this utter clown is beyond me. 

Anyway happy bank holiday weekend ?

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14 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Pretty sure some on here would take relegation if it meant going back to hoofing and pashun

Sorry, what do you think we’re doing now?

 

I’d say we’re hoofing it without the ‘pashun’. The only difference between this and what Shakespeare was doing is we’re taking longer to get to the hoofing stage in every move. I’m not impressed by hoofing it just because we’vd made 25 passes in our own half before deciding to do it.

 

I’d like to go back to 2 years ago when we were playing exciting, tactically astute football and scoring goals. Oh, and when we were playing with ‘pashun’. Anyone else?

 

Or is that not popular now just because the current manager doesn’t fancy playing that way and whatever he says goes?

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And people talk about relegation like it’s the worst thing that could happen. 

 

I’m not Interested in watching us NOW. That is the worst effect a manager can have on a club.

 

It doesn’t matter what division you’re in if people actually don’t even want to watch their team because it’s such a depressing experience. That’s failure.

 

The owners are talking about expanding the stadium. Doubt they’ll be happy either when they see how badly crowds are starting to dip, and watch it continue...

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FrankieADZ

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14 hours ago, STUHILL said:

Like they did with Claudio after a similar statement... I wouldn't be so sure. He has 3 games, as Percy has suggested.

 

He hasn't had a few games.. He's had since last October and a full transfer window. 4 wins in 18 games. No players improved under him. 5-0 drubbing by Palace. 

 

i'd like to see some evidence of progression before allowing him to stay in charge, for what should be a huge summer of rebuilding for us. 

 

Finishing these 3 games strongly is an absolute must, otherwise he really hasn't earned or shown us why he should be allowed to stay beyond that. 

im by no mean a Puel in or out atm, frankly i dont care atm,

the CR sacking was needed tbh, as you could easily see the team was heading one way under him

can only think of 1 player whos really improved and that is Ndidi, but that is really the only one for me,

and from what has been said by managers and such the Jan transfer window is meant to be really difficult to get targets in, since most clubs dont want to sell their top players etc in the middle of the season, 

dont get me wrong, last weekend i wanted him gone, atm i coudnt careless either way, i think chopping and changing managers wont help in the long term and it will cost us dearly if we do.

i agree with you regards performances too, i think if the performances were half decent then there wouldnt be the uproar, but theyve been dross, need to show something the last few games or there will be doubts come the end of the season, if he stays though the summer window is going to be massive for him and the club in general, since the squad needs an overhaul

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10 hours ago, UPinCarolina said:

The fact we have only 3 games left is precisely why I buy the owner’s statement at face value.

Exactly. They would have just stayed quiet and got rid in 3 games time. The fact they have publicly backed him with such a short time remaining to me means he is sticking around. 

 

I believe he can do well with the right players. Now we just need to be bold enough to go out and get them and not be afraid to get rid of the dead wood. And if any of them have a problem with certain players being sold, they can go too.

For too long our team has downed tools and given up far quicker than most, if Pearson is the only manager they want to give their lives for they can go and play at Leuven.

 

Most can't see it but for me I think puel is trying to get us in the right direction, we just have the wrong players for it at present, the only style our team is currently capable of is route 1 counter attacking, which is good for bottom half teams but rarely for top 6. 

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35 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Exactly. They would have just stayed quiet and got rid in 3 games time. The fact they have publicly backed him with such a short time remaining to me means he is sticking around. 

 

I believe he can do well with the right players. Now we just need to be bold enough to go out and get them and not be afraid to get rid of the dead wood. And if any of them have a problem with certain players being sold, they can go too.

For too long our team has downed tools and given up far quicker than most, if Pearson is the only manager they want to give their lives for they can go and play at Leuven.

 

Most can't see it but for me I think puel is trying to get us in the right direction, we just have the wrong players for it at present, the only style our team is currently capable of is route 1 counter attacking, which is good for bottom half teams but rarely for top 6. 

Interesting that the owners mentioned evolution a couple of times in their statement. I think that’s quite telling.

 

I really hope they keep their nerve and don’t pull the trigger.

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