Burnley post match 2-1 loss

[theadmans]

Got to feel happy for the Burnley fans. With their wages bill and transfer kitty - I am impressed with the results they are grinding out.

 

Not as impressive as our Premier League win but still fair play to them they are performing miracles.

 

Pleased for Chris Wood too - remember meeting him and his parents after one our games - nice guy.

 

 

[MC Prussian]

2 minutes ago, Jacnah said:

Completely agree on today -  so maybe my comment was unfair on the poster. Personally I thought we played much better today. Moved the ball faster and had a sense of urgency. We created chances that on another day...............

 

Shocking first 10 minutes cost us though.

 

 

Yes, but again only after going behind and completely sleeping through the first half. For the umptienth time.

That's both the players and the manager to blame.

[CarbonVirtine]

Still, Diabate eh? Pretty trick or wot? 

 

Morgan wasn't thinking today. The 'do or die' stuff isn't what Puel wants. You don't clatter your CB partner in a desperate attempt to clear the ball. 

 

Beaten again yes, after gifting goals again yes... but I did think we looked more creative in the final 3rd than we have previously (which ain't actually saying a lot but, you know, I wanna be positive) Hopefully, summer signings will replace the players not up to Puelball and we'll be a better looking side next season.

 

Silva surprisingly wasteful on occasions today, having a bad day methinks because he's better than that.

 

I think Burnley's time wasting deserves an award. 

[Harry96]

Shite 

[fuchsntf]

1 minute ago, DrezZone said:

We should all hope that Southampton win the FA Cup so that Burnley doesn't get into Europe.

So spitefull and arrogant ,I am not!!  

So I dont belong to the WE.

[Webbo]

5 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Pissed off we lost. Those wanting puel out be careful what you wish for because this time next year we could be where southampton are now. No guarantee we'll get anyone better. 

There's no guarantee that keeping Puel won't leave in the same position either.

[BeardyFox]

Well where do you start with that? 

Entire defensive line were bullied from the first minute. 

Morgan and Simpson need taking out to a field and shooting, chilwell has a lot to learn and harry needs a decent partner asap! 

 

Mahrez and grey ineffective, both receive the ball and have no decisive thought about wether to attack the full back or look for a pass. Central two were ok, hamza did well in defensive situations, Silva wasted passes too often! 

 

Okazake, waste of space and Vardy isolated. 

 

Season gone. 

[ARTY_FOX]

2 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Mate you need to fast forward a bit. We're now in 2018.

He has a point though. We need to mix it up. At the minute we've gone from.one extreme to the other. 

 

Play as we did in puels first 5 or so games and we're unplayable. 

[Jacnah]

1 minute ago, fuchsntf said:

I doubt Europe was ever on the table,when he took the job!

Absolutely agree - it was keep us in the Premiership. Remember where we were when he took over, we weren't vying for a Europe spot that is for sure

[Tom12345]

3 minutes ago, Karljohn said:

Problem with Gray is he believes hes a hell of a lot better than he is, and the attitude goes with it. 

His main problem is his delivery of the final ball. Just very poor. 

[wardyfox86]

2 minutes ago, harpendenfox said:

I’m pretty sure only 7 English clubs could play in Europe. The 8th place argument is irrelevant 

That solves that, wonder where the extra spots go. 

[420Hashish]

2 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

So spitefull and arrogant ,I am not!!  

So I dont belong to the WE.

OK.

[SecretPro]

Keep Puel, ship out the dead wood and gobshites who think they run the place. Bye Wes, Bye Danny, Bye Shinji. Others need to quit moaning and show their worth on the pitch, especially Gray - Diabate is already twice as good. 

[ZeGuy]

1 minute ago, ARTY_FOX said:

He has a point though. We need to mix it up. At the minute we've gone from.one extreme to the other. 

 

Play as we did in puels first 5 or so games and we're unplayable. 

That's a fair point but we already actually did. We didn't lost the counbter-attack trademark. Thing is just that teams are wary of us, so it happens less often. You're going too hard on the gaffer.

[Jacnah]

1 minute ago, MC Prussian said:

Yes, but again only after going behind and completely sleeping through the first half. For the umptienth time.

That's both the players and the manager to blame.

Agree. I'm just not in the "all is lost, we're doomed" camp. Work to be done for sure to evolve the team, but lets be careful about expecting instant results. Both Claudio and Shaky failed. Its not easy

[Beachyboy]

4 minutes ago, TeaMen Tom said:

This team consistently plays just poorly enough to not get the results you'd think would equal the talent level.  This is the hardest conundrum for any team to solve as changing out one or two parts might solve it - but the question is which parts? Or do you change the manager (again)? To me coming out flat in the first 10 minutes of a match you need to have is pretty inexcusable.  They came into the game in the 2nd half but again too late.  Honestly I'm not sure how you solve this.  Poor defending at key times has held this club back all season.

Morgan, simpson an the striker with Vardy would be initially where i'd look. I liked what I seen from Choudary an Silva will grow into the team. I would also look at signing either a new GK or very strong competition to KS. The second phase would be to see by January if Chilwell/Grey will cut it. I believe Diabate will, so RB CB 10 are the 3 urgent parts to look at.

 

 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

22 minutes ago, bmouth_fox said:

It’s not the manager - it’s some of the players. When the worst player by some distance wears the armband then there is a problem. We lost the game in the first 10 mins, and he was culpable for both (and Simpson for second). Wayward passing, all round clumsy. How he gets in the team is a joke - particularly as Dragovic suits the style of play more.

 

We were decent second half, and could possible even should have won it. But we cannot keep chasing games. Its not like Wes is all to blame, but it smacks of the manager not having the balls to drop a senior player. After his gaffe v Newcastle (and others) I’m convinced that this is a large reason that is costing us European football next season.

 

****ing fuming!

Puel is partly to blame, way too timid and cautious every first half.

[chapero82]

Forget we are 8th we are nine points behind Burnley 

[Jaspa]

Morgan & Chilwell for the first and Maguire had a complete job done on him for the second. Errors randomly thrown in all game, Simmo's more or less injured Kasper with a backpass. Just eurgh

 

We've been shithoused by a team who specialise in exactly that and gave it them on a platter in the first ten minutes; all they did after that was count the clock down. We made numerous chances in the first we should've took, second half we had a better attitude and looked determined but still didnt take our chance until their fans were ripping the sh** out of our lot for being silent and then Vardy seems to channel inner frustration into rage and bags. Really not liking the fan attitude at the moment, when the lads are low they need fans behind them, this sourness stinks of piss when were still top half of the Prem.

 

Choudhury grew into the game and offers something else to the other CM's, he can slot in as a sweeper and allows Maguire more space to roam and also helps control the game, definitely needs to add some muscle though as he looked twiggy compared to everyone else. Silva was meh again, dont know why he was so smiley smiley with the ref and their lads when we're 2-0 down, he was also having issues controlling Iheanacho whilst trying to tell him where to go when we're defending. Speaking of Nacho, it looks like he's cut alot of them out; looks alot sleeker and fitter. Chilly at fault for the first but really grew into it.

 

Unless there's a clear disparity between Puel and the players or internally I'm still behind giving him the Summer to shape the squad. We were shoddy when he came in and compared to Shakey we're still miles better off.

 

Well done Burnley, they're good and hard working in what they do

[ARTY_FOX]

4 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

That's a fair point but we already actually did. We didn't lost the counbter-attack trademark. Thing is just that teams are wary of us, so it happens less often. You're going too hard on the gaffer.

I'm not going for the gaffer at all in what I'm saying. Teams might be wary of us but at games it's incredibly obvious that we purposely slow it down when we don't need too. It happens alot right upfront of my seat at home games. (Half way line) 

[Foxxed]

We're safe. And we're not getting into Europe. Spend the rest of the season giving the youngsters a chance, frankly the only exciting thing left this season.

[STUHILL]

7 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

His main problem is his delivery of the final ball. Just very poor. 

Was a cracking ball for Mahrez in the first half which he should have scored. His passing in the England U21's always seems a step up on what he does for us too. 

 

He has talent and quality no doubt, but his decision making is poor. Needs to keep at it and trying to make the most of these chances he gets. 

 

i definitely won't be writing him off yet, but he certainly isn't a starter yet either. Needs to keep trying to improve and work hard. 

[jayfox26]

Can't see us winning another game this season. Southampton And Palace both fighting for their lives and Arsenal always beat us and we won't get anything out of Spurs. A top 10 finish may be beyond us. The biggest worry for me today was the body language from certain players. Something just isn't right at all and we have no togetherness or team spirit which is the total opposite of Burnley. Massive changes needed or we will be relegation fodder next season. 

[les-tah]

“I’d rather have a bath with my dad than partner Wes Morgan at centre back”

[justfoxes]

We can all hope that Arsenhole & Blurnley start to drop points last few remaining games but we need to take control of our own destiny now surely our players hate the fact not only being beaten by Blurnley but they remain above us 9 points the better.

We have shown In The past we have quality in our playing staff but we all can see there are Certain players who should not be in the starting lineup let alone the bench.

 

As for Puell out And I know at the minute I’m not a big fan Of his  but he is our manager at the moment and That is a decision the owners will have to make whether he is the right man to take us forward  into the next season will they allow him to build his own team and give him a big war chest to rebuild.

Let’s just see now what happens on Thursday night against Southampton and take it from there we can only hope and performances get better and we can take our scoring chances more clinical !

Edited 14 April 2018 by justfoxes