Popular Post FoxFossil Posted 19 September 2018 Popular Post Posted 19 September 2018 3 hours ago, jmono84 said: I like to think Puel is still fine tuning. We’re generally keeping the ball much better and creating some good chances from decent football which is a big positive so far this season. The balance is completely off at the minute tho, the first two goals against Bournemouth is unacceptable, other big clubs play similar to what we do but they have fast quality centre backs and switched on CDM’s who know how to deal with situations when the counter attack is on... don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t mind if someone like Ronaldo skinned wes and scored but someone like Fraser being allowed to run with the ball, cut inside and score shows Wes/others are struggling in this new system. I hope it can be rectified because I am enjoying watching us going forward but shite my pants every time we lose the ball Puel fine tuning...more like Les Dawson playing the piano. 1 4
StriderHiryu Posted 19 September 2018 Posted 19 September 2018 14 minutes ago, Finnegan said: But like I said, in those instances it then tends to be Milner who drops in to cover. The point is that they're well enough drilled that by and large someone's always covering and making it a three. Not always sure they'll lose discipline particularly when really pushed in to the opposition box maybe but for 90% of open play. Watch their shape next time they're on telly, they're really, really good at the moment and in top defensive form. A really good example for teams like us to imitate. Obviously they've got two fairly mobile centre halves and better quality round the pitch but a lot of the same logic can be applied. Agreed! You also have to give Klopp credit for making players like Milner and Henderson look so good. Players who are very mediocre in terms of talent, but they they press so much and do their jobs so well that it get's their team going. Shows the value of having a system drilled into you, which is hopefully what happens to us as the season goes by. Honestly I'd rate Ndidi as better than any of Wijnaldum, Henderson or Milner, but Liverpool typically utilise their players so much better. (Though ironically, they weren't so good versus us). Mind you it does help if you have a forward three as good as theirs! 1
Popular Post AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 19 September 2018 Popular Post Posted 19 September 2018 5 minutes ago, FoxFossil said: Puel fine tuning...more like Les Dawson playing the piano. People seem to be falling into a trap of habitually caricaturing Puel And the narrative changes as to why he's rubbish, the constant is that he's inept Last season it was that the football was boring, aimless passing. This season you cant say that, but our defenders are making mistakes for sure, so now Puel doesnt know how to set a team up to defend The fact is the way we've been playing has been transforming all the time since his arrival. Can definitely believe he's fine tuning and capable of tweaking things to sort out this issue of opening ourselves up at the back 10
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 19 September 2018 Posted 19 September 2018 3 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: Agreed! You also have to give Klopp credit for making players like Milner and Henderson look so good. Players who are very mediocre in terms of talent, but they they press so much and do their jobs so well that it get's their team going. Shows the value of having a system drilled into you, which is hopefully what happens to us as the season goes by. Honestly I'd rate Ndidi as better than any of Wijnaldum, Henderson or Milner, but Liverpool typically utilise their players so much better. (Though ironically, they weren't so good versus us). Mind you it does help if you have a forward three as good as theirs! Ndidi is not on the level of any of those players you have mentioned. Does them a massive disservice 1
STUHILL Posted 19 September 2018 Posted 19 September 2018 (edited) My team for Saturday: -------------------Schmeichel--------------------- --------Soyuncu----Evans----Maguire-------- Pereira------------------------------------Chilwell -----------------Mendy----N'didi----------------- ----------------------Maddison-------------------- -------------Iheanacho--------Vardy------------- I'd consider either Silva or Iborra for Mendy, but would try this first and see how they adapt. Puel's likely team for Saturday: -----------------Schmeichel---------------------- Amartey-----Evans-----Maguire----Chilwell -----------------Mendy----N'didi----------------- Pereira-----------Maddison---------Albrighton -----------------------Vardy------------------------- I think either will be enough to beat Huddersfield but I still think a switch of formation addresses the main issues we have been having. Edited 19 September 2018 by STUHILL 4
Foxxed Posted 19 September 2018 Posted 19 September 2018 2 hours ago, StriderHiryu said: Agreed! You also have to give Klopp credit for making players like Milner and Henderson look so good. Players who are very mediocre in terms of talent, but they they press so much and do their jobs so well that it get's their team going. Shows the value of having a system drilled into you, which is hopefully what happens to us as the season goes by. Honestly I'd rate Ndidi as better than any of Wijnaldum, Henderson or Milner, but Liverpool typically utilise their players so much better. (Though ironically, they weren't so good versus us). Mind you it does help if you have a forward three as good as theirs! Hahaha, I remember those days. Pearson, Walsh and Shakespeare may be struggling now but they certainly drilled home what every player needed to do. Obviously there was more than that, Kante and the league underestimating us when Vardy and Mahrez suddenly turned world class in particular, but well drilled players in a good formation can, and did, turn some very mediocre players into world beaters. 1
Milky Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 Puel had them in for a double training session Tuesday which hasn't gone down well with some players. Spoilt brats really but player power and all that. 1 1
mozartfox Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 6 minutes ago, Milky said: Puel had them in for a double training session Tuesday which hasn't gone down well with some players. Spoilt brats really but player power and all that. Triple training sessions will do no good if Puel persists with a chronically slow CB pairing.
lgfualol Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 2 hours ago, Milky said: Puel had them in for a double training session Tuesday which hasn't gone down well with some players. Spoilt brats really but player power and all that. Any club that is at one point losing 4 nil to Bournemouth should be in for double training sessions all week. 2
Matt Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Milky said: Puel had them in for a double training session Tuesday which hasn't gone down well with some players. Spoilt brats really but player power and all that. Oh here we go again, player power. I know it’s easier said than done getting rid of bad apples but you have thought with a summer transfer window under his belt Puel/the club on Puel’s recommendation or advice would have done something towards resolving the situation about player power...if indeed it has ever existed under Puel, of course it could simply be used as yet another excuse. For those reasons and many reasons I gave last season I just can’t take the player power arguments seriously. Edited 20 September 2018 by Matt 1
Sharpe's Fox Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 Puel needs double people management sessions. Clown. 2 1
Ric Flair Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 Good to see Puel shouldering the blame for Saturday's horror show, like he's said in the press. He's now making them train twice as much to rectify the mistakes he is making, when the solution could be to tweak the system that best suits this squad. The man is as stubborn as they come. That said, the removal of the player power culture at our club is imperitive for him or the next man to succeed. 4
UniFox21 Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 33 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Good to see Puel shouldering the blame for Saturday's horror show, like he's said in the press. He's now making them train twice as much to rectify the mistakes he is making, when the solution could be to tweak the system that best suits this squad. The man is as stubborn as they come. That said, the removal of the player power culture at our club is imperitive for him or the next man to succeed. The training could be to do that? And yes I know he sets the team out to play etc, but that team isn't full of first time pros, Wes, Harry, Vardy etc have been around for a while if they see a glaring issue why the hell are they not bringing this up 1
CosbehFox Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 (edited) If there’s any switch in formation, I’d expect a ****ing double session. There's been a lot of talk about playing 3 at the back and that needs fine tuning. It's probably been our first real chance to play such a formation with the available players and sufficient time to deal with it on the training ground. They have Wednesdays off anyway. Edited 20 September 2018 by Cardiff_Fox 1
fuchsntf Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 One thing this forum does..no matter or because what the individuals post...... One can't wait for the next game.... #.hoping to see the game that makes it worthwile #the game that destroys the Puel revolution.....meaning another 3-4yr promise with a new name Branded In the city Annuals.....then another,another.....and so on... # Or happy clappers like me, who just sit back and enjoy each part of the whole journey.Twists n turns,downturns,upturned Stormy moments....exciting moments......Cos on this forum,it's never boring.. Come on weekend,I can't wait......
Popular Post Babylon Posted 20 September 2018 Popular Post Posted 20 September 2018 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Good to see Puel shouldering the blame for Saturday's horror show, like he's said in the press. He's now making them train twice as much to rectify the mistakes he is making, when the solution could be to tweak the system that best suits this squad. The man is as stubborn as they come. That said, the removal of the player power culture at our club is imperitive for him or the next man to succeed. Many of the mistakes are down to poor individual play or positional play. Saying that's all his fault is OTT, why throw the baby out with the bath water if working on the positional play will sort the problem. Drilling the back four and the CM's is much needed at the minute so they work as they should. 6
Ric Flair Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 10 minutes ago, Babylon said: Many of the mistakes are down to poor individual play or positional play. Saying that's all his fault is OTT, why throw the baby out with the bath water if working on the positional play will sort the problem. Drilling the back four and the CM's is much needed at the minute so they work as they should. Of course it's not all Puel's fault. The man has some good ideas and is a cut above from your average no mark like Allardyce or Pardew but he's got problems in this country at the way he's trying to operate and I'm not sure his methods are going to succeed with this current squad. He's had his chance to recruit as well in two windows and the majority of these signings appear to suggest 3-4-1-2 or a variation of that. He's shown very little interest in strengthening our attackers or wingers, likewise in central midfield. It's all been about defence and attacking full backs which is fine but play to their strengths then. 1 1
bfox Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 21 hours ago, STUHILL said: My team for Saturday: -------------------Schmeichel--------------------- --------Soyuncu----Evans----Maguire-------- Pereira------------------------------------Chilwell -----------------Mendy----N'didi----------------- ----------------------Maddison-------------------- -------------Iheanacho--------Vardy------------- That is how I feel we should be lining up week in week out! With pereira and Chilwell boming up the wings and 1 of either ndidi and mendy joining the attack and the other holding further back to null any counter threats. With 3 at the back, counter attacks against us shoudnt be so potent 1
Simoken Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 19:04, Matt said: Can't see us losing but not convinced we'll win. a draw then. 1
Foxaholic ME Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 1 hour ago, bfox said: That is how I feel we should be lining up week in week out! With pereira and Chilwell boming up the wings and 1 of either ndidi and mendy joining the attack and the other holding further back to null any counter threats. With 3 at the back, counter attacks against us shoudnt be so potent 1 hour ago, bfox said: That is how I feel we should be lining up week in week out! With pereira and Chilwell boming up the wings and 1 of either ndidi and mendy joining the attack and the other holding further back to null any counter threats. With 3 at the back, counter attacks against us shoudnt be so potent Why this bias against Allbrighton who never lets us down as compared to many included in your side
fuchsntf Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 1 hour ago, Babylon said: Many of the mistakes are down to poor individual play or positional play. Saying that's all his fault is OTT, why throw the baby out with the bath water if working on the positional play will sort the problem. Drilling the back four and the CM's is much needed at the minute so they work as they should. Just the thought of the addition,of also reading between the lines.. Damn good post!! So easy to put all on the manager..with "he's responsible end-of" In a rebuild..he and players has to work together,and iron out many characteristics,getting a new positional sense,even the need for trying the unknown. What are players best positions,in the sense can they cover other areas.Formation-choices... It amazes me how many posters,come up with their own "obvious" ideas,and corrections/opinions ,and every fan all "obviously" agree... He has said,he has seen where problems lie,and rectifications are needed..Puel is no man's fool. Using the owners statement...One should see he's going to be given along time,ups and downs,already in the program. ok if it really implodes,..then how bad..? Fans aren't looking at the big picture...and yes it becomes frustrating...having to take draws,against teams like Huddersfield, which really opens up the coconut-shy..... Last season was the stage,to find who can help to take the club further ..Who can we bring up to first levels,not the finished product.! So success firstly was from outside small... I #Maguire becomes a trusted future automatic choice..a new quality CB,but still learning and flexible #Chilwell ,Gray, and Diabate,Choudry given the nod,the first 2 have took their growth further,the other 2 will also come on slowly. # Fringe and our expensive buys were found wanting,and moved on # Used a quality player who was always going to leave,to get us safe and top 9. #we were always short of an all out attacking midfielder...eventually we found Maddison,but this summer!! #Silva and Iborra,were given games in their first season...no doors broken down,but also not failures.They still will have a big role to play.. Some very silly negative posts,on the further presence of these 2. We have defensive frailities....they can be assesed,and solved,we have upped the quality of cover....and long-term investment. I said,we will need 10-12 games to see how this season will flow, but in reality Puels revolution will run for awhile yet.... Weekly Puel-out campaigns are useless....These individual results,so long as points are gathered will not hinder,the planned and expected development... 2
fuchsntf Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 13 minutes ago, Foxaholic ME said: Why this bias against Allbrighton who never lets us down as compared to many included in your side Allbrighton..is still in the top 4,of our squad players...one reason he can be selected,or put on the bench.
davieG Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 Claude Puel has confirmed that Jonny Evans and Çağlar Söyüncü are in contention to replace the suspended Wes Morgan in defence against Huddersfield Town. - Leicester City face Huddersfield Town at King Power Stadium on Saturday (3pm BST kick-off) - Claude Puel will have a mostly fit squad to choose from to face the Terriers - Matty James (fitness) and Wes Morgan (suspended) will miss the visit of David Wagner's men - Puel says it is a choice between Jonny Evans and Çağlar Söyüncü to replace suspended Morgan The Foxes welcome David Wagner’s Terriers to King Power Stadium on Saturday, but they will be without their captain after he was sent off at AFC Bournemouth last weekend. Either Evans, who made his debut in a 2-0 win over Wolverhampton Wanderers last month, or Söyüncü, who is back to full fitness after a slight injury, are likely to deputise for Morgan. “They are in good fitness and I will take a decision,” Puel said on Thursday. “I am happy with the work of both. I think Jonny deserves to play, he is a very experienced player.” On the topic of making changes, the Frenchman added that he will not make decisions based on last Saturday’s result, stressing that his selection will consist of players best equipped for Huddersfield. The Foxes boss also provided an update on midfielder Matty James, who has been out with an Achilles injury this season. He added: “We will see. The most important thing is to prepare this game against this team. It will be difficult to play against this team. Just Matty James isn’t match fit, but all other players are available. [James] is resting after his surgery and we will see, step-by-step, when he can come back. Claude Puel “It will be a tough game and we need to be ready to play with a good tempo, patience, but it will be a good challenge to find a solution against this team. “Just Matty James isn’t match fit, but all other players are available. [James] is resting after his surgery and we will see, step-by-step, when he can come back. “We need patience because we want him to come back with a smile and not thinking about anything else but football.”
lgfualol Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 Evans should play but if we are winning with 4 at the back it would be nice to go 3 at the back to give Soyuncu a debut.
jayfox26 Posted 20 September 2018 Posted 20 September 2018 On 17/09/2018 at 02:38, UPinCarolina said: The type of side we need to beat to have a chance of Europa League qualification or better. The top sides (Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, etc) seem to have too much firepower for us to expect to take points from them, so we’ve got to capitalize when we have these sorts of matches. Exactly! Like you say, the top 6 have too much for us so we should be aiming to win our 13 other home games and try and sneak a draw at home to the top 6. We definitely should not drop points at home to Huddersfield but if we defend like we did against Bournemouth then we could struggle!
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