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Posted
1 hour ago, inckley fox said:

Obviously you're right, but what the WHO seems to be asking is for every outbreak, all over the world, to be treated this way simultaneously. They believe this approach has been shown to work.

 

Of course, we have to keep countries working in the meantime so it's about balance. Looking at some of the more moderate suggestions in the media, it might be possible to get that right. Perhaps we could shift to a four day week temporarily in order to reduce spread, insist on football games being played at 40% capacity with a gap of one seat, and cancel larger gatherings (e.g. the Fallas festival, where a million people from all over Europe will be crowding out bars and packing themselves into the streets of Valencia in ten days). Maybe schools could shift to 2-3 days weeks, with classes at half-capacity. Supermarkets and shopping centres could work to capacities.

 

The strategy is to buy time if we can't contain it. All of these measures - now - would go a long way towards that and might mean we don't have to resort to the most extreme measures further down the line, when we suddenly realise that an aunt has died here, your mate's granny there, and you've probably got it too, and oh **** this is actually 'a thing'.

 

A co-ordinated response by, say, the EU wouldn't hurt. The biggest fuss they've made so far is when they insisted that borders to Italy were kept open a month ago, which wasn't especially helpful.

 

It seems to me that the measures have a bit of all / nothing about them. We'll allow everyone to attend games until we get to the point where nobody does. We'll allow everyone to go to school until we have to cancel it for two months. We won't test pneumonia sufferers for the virus when we're at the brink of an epidemic, then we'll suddenly swing into action and try to test pretty much anyone who asks to be tested.

 

And the attitude which has allowed this to happen is the 'well, I'm young and healthy!' attitude. Often by the same people who, quite reasonably, are worried about climate change. There's a hypocrisy there, if you're bothered about one distant but relatively intangible threat because it will eventually affect you, but not another less distant threat, because it won't.

 

There's still a great chance that in a year's time we'll be saying - 'well, the world didn't end, did it?' But if we are saying that, it'll be down to either antivirals (e.g. Kelatra) intervening, and/or having acted significantly in the meantime.

Let’s all meet at Parliament Square to protest, don’t forget to wash your hands.

Posted
1 hour ago, yorkie1999 said:

I'm going with what she said. A city where 5g was rolled out and 2 cruise ships from the same company, both with the latest in 5G technology and a president that seems pretty determined to stop the Chinese installing 5G networks around the globe. Something seems a bit fishy!

:nono:

Posted
7 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

BOG ROLL BONKERS !

 

 

 

If you read one of my previous posts earlier this morning you will see why bog rolls are the must buy panic buy item ...    

 

I'm just ahead of the game me ! ...   :thumbup:

 

(Page 34 ..  second of my 4 posts ..)

 

 

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Ffs ......what the hell is going to happen if this actually becomes serious......... some people are so weird ........

It's not even as if the runs are a symptom of corona. 

 

Pasta is another thing flying off the shelves, cos of course, if you get get infected, spag bol is the thing to eat!

Posted
2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

It's not even as if the runs are a symptom of corona. 

 

Pasta is another thing flying off the shelves, cos of course, if you get get infected, spag bol is the thing to eat!

It’s worked for the Italians.

Posted

 

 

If there’s no bog roll left in Leicester and you don’t mind a 5 hour drive, there’s loads and loads of bog roll left at Tesco in Silverburn, Glasgow, as of about 15 minutes ago. :ph34r:

 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, MattP said:

Surprised how callous many seem to have become over this, they were just interviewing a young couple on sky in London and they said nothing would change for them as their age meant they would be ok even if they got it.

 

Do these people not have parents, grandparents or other elderly relatives? 

 

Even if you have no worries yourself maybe a good idea to exercise concern for your fellow citizens and realise how important it is to do everything possible not to spread something that could potentially kill millions of people?

My thoughts exactly, but I'm not surprised at all, too many selfish bastards around.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

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And would you accept an invitation to join Michael in his pool, CF? Would you, eh?! Would you, hell....you'd run a mile!

 

I rest my point!

 

I'm off to hide in a big pile of bog paper in case he invites me for a dip. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

 

And would you accept an invitation to join Michael in his pool, CF? Would you, eh?! Would you, hell....you'd run a mile!

 

I rest my point!

 

I'm off to hide in a big pile of bog paper in case he invites me for a dip. 


Not if the mysteriously missing pool thermometer suddenly makes a comeback Alf !! ...   :o

Posted
50 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

BOG ROLL BONKERS !

 

 

Fuch me, utter cretins, the kind of peeps who probably religiously watched Jeremy Kyle I'd wager.

Posted
4 hours ago, MattP said:

Surprised how callous many seem to have become over this, they were just interviewing a young couple on sky in London and they said nothing would change for them as their age meant they would be ok even if they got it.

 

Do these people not have parents, grandparents or other elderly relatives? 

 

Even if you have no worries yourself maybe a good idea to exercise concern for your fellow citizens and realise how important it is to do everything possible not to spread something that could potentially kill millions of people?

Well, the White House seem to think it's mostly a media campaign to bring down their leader...:whistle:

 

But yes, in all seriousness, taking precautions and staying informed is the best course of action. Speaking personally, I can't fault the Korean authorities in terms of their response on this one.

Posted
13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Well, the White House seem to think it's mostly a media campaign to bring down their leader...:whistle:

 

But yes, in all seriousness, taking precautions and staying informed is the best course of action. Speaking personally, I can't fault the Korean authorities in terms of their response on this one.

I was earlier listening to Trump saying he’d rather the passengers aboard the virus ship stay where they are as he didn’t want the numbers (of Americans infected) to double as these “weren’t our fault”. What a useless, arrogant, narcissistic tosser this guy is. All he cares about is the “optics”.

Posted
8 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Could they not have matched the data range? What a weird way to present it. They've got completely different scales, starting at different points, one in chunks of 10 years the other in some randomly picked age range. 

I agree it would have been nice because it's always better to have a direct comparison but there's enough info in there to get a clear picture, that is to say it's a little bit worse than 'just like getting the flu' as many people like to say.

 

5 hours ago, Wet Trump said:

It’s worth noting that the graph on the right is purely on age and not on whether there were pre existing health issues. Including pre existing health issues would bring those percentages right down, to the point of healthy under 60s would generally have nothing to worry about. 
 

The worry is - we all have relatives or friends who are at risk of this thing and we should be doing everything we can to stop it’s spread. At the moment just wash your hands and practise good hygiene like you should every day of the year.

I don't think the graph on the left takes those things into account either.  I think it still shows that under-60s have little to personally worry about but as you rightly say we should all be worried about passing it on to relatives or friends who are in the more vulnerable bracket, a death rate of over 1 in 10 must be terrifying if you're over 65.  It would be nice to see the younger people sharing those concerns instead of I'm alright Jacking it.

Posted

Hmm... I have an idea...

 

Why not control all the people who've just returned from a visit to Italy at least? With air traffic, we do have a list of all the names...

Posted
1 hour ago, Vacamion said:

 

 

If there’s no bog roll left in Leicester and you don’t mind a 5 hour drive, there’s loads and loads of bog roll left at Tesco in Silverburn, Glasgow, as of about 15 minutes ago. :ph34r:

 

 

I’ll just wipe on the carpet like the dog does.

Posted
1 hour ago, ithuriel said:

Fuch me, utter cretins, the kind of peeps who probably religiously watched Jeremy Kyle I'd wager.

They are but whose to say this really is panic buying, could be an old video for all we know.

Posted
13 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

They are but whose to say this really is panic buying, could be an old video for all we know.

 

ABC news (Australia), but trust me, shelves are empty in many places of some staples. No one's going to die of starvation, but you might have to change your diet a little and wipe your bum with kitchen roll.

Posted

I remember working in Glenfield Co-op in 2003 the first morning after the shock and awe bombing in Iraq. In a few hours we'd sold out of milk, bread, eggs and bottled water. By the end of the day we'd sold out of loads of things - including anything drinkable (it wasn't a small co-op). That was because of something happening a halfway around the world against a country that had no realistic chance of effecting us.

 

Around the same time the space shuttle Columbia disaster happened. A rumour started going around that Bin Laden or Saddam had shot it down and people were saying to us WW3 was about to start. :crylaugh:Again we started selling out of bottled water and other things.

 

People would be raging at us when we told them we'd sold out. And I mean raging.

 

People are stupid! 

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