hejammy Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nalis said: At best its very unprofessional isnt it, taking race out of it its like calling Sean Longstaff getting identified as the ginger fella or Gary Taylor-Fletcher the fat bloke. The question you have to ask is would you like being called "the ginger guy" or the "fat bloke" if you were on the receiving end of that. The point stands, would he have said "the white guy" if it was a white person to describe him? The answer to that is more than likely not! So why describe someone as the "black guy". It's also because it's associated with a negative situation, if it was for praise more than likely he wouldn't be described as the "black guy". Edited 8 December 2020 by hejammy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 13 minutes ago, hejammy said: I think this is the point Demba Ba was making, if it was a white person would the 4th official say the "white guy". This is subtle racism. No need to describe him as the black guy. Call him by his name. 4 minutes ago, Nalis said: At best its very unprofessional isnt it, taking race out of it its like calling Sean Longstaff getting identified as the ginger fella or Gary Taylor-Fletcher the fat bloke. This is being heavily discussed in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE thread, where it happened ... Please, let's preserve this thread for what is going on in the league we are competing in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 1 minute ago, hejammy said: The question you have to ask is would you like being called "the ginger guy" or the "fat bloke" if you were on the receiving end of that. The point stands, would he have said "the white guy" if it was a white person to describe him? The answer to that is more than likely not! So why describe someone as the "black guy". It's also because it's associated with a negative situation, if it was for praise more than likely he wouldn't be described as the "black guy". Oh yeah, and sorry I should have clarified that my comment was just that even potential or actual racism aside given the explanation by tamworthfox at the start of this page, it was still idiotic from the 4th official even if entirely innocent. 5 minutes ago, KingsX said: This is being heavily discussed in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE thread, where it happened ... Please, let's preserve this thread for what is going on in the league we are competing in. Fair enough, I might leave the discussion entirely and get back to obsessing over europa league / champions league drop out seeding instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 Man Utd - 9pts in CL Group (can't draw them anyway) Club Brugge - 8pts Krasnodar - 5pts Dynamo Kiev - 4pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystonFox Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 We will definitely get United in semis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamworthFoxes Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 1 minute ago, SystonFox said: We will definitely get United in semis Be delighted if we make the semi finals. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Next Year Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 Rio Ferdinand almost crying at the Man U score on BT sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulpine Victor Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 15 minutes ago, SystonFox said: We will definitely get United in semis What makes you think United would even make the semis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 18 minutes ago, Vulpine Victor said: What makes you think United would even make the semis? They made it last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420Hashish Posted 8 December 2020 Share Posted 8 December 2020 1 hour ago, hejammy said: I think this is the point Demba Ba was making, if it was a white person would the 4th official say the "white guy". This is subtle racism. No need to describe him as the black guy. Call him by his name. Well I doubt the ref would know a random staff member's name. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 11:11, Sol thewall Bamba said: Can't wait to be knocked out by a Bruno Fernandes penalty in the Quarter final. Its silly in my view that CL rejects drop into the europa. Has uefa ever given a reason for the policy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 How will the seedings work for the last 32? If we win our group we are seeded as I understand it. But there will be 12 group winners plus 8 teams dropping in from the Champions League. It's not possible to seed 24 teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 27 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: How will the seedings work for the last 32? If we win our group we are seeded as I understand it. But there will be 12 group winners plus 8 teams dropping in from the Champions League. It's not possible to seed 24 teams? Only 4 of the 8 CL teams are seeded. Not sure how they work it out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 2 hours ago, Chrysalis said: Its silly in my view that CL rejects drop into the europa. Has uefa ever given a reason for the policy? I agree, its like being rewarded with a second chance for failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 1 hour ago, nnfox said: Only 4 of the 8 CL teams are seeded. Not sure how they work it out though. It's the best 4 dropouts in terms of points. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 It makes it even more annoying missing out on CL qualification to Man Utd. A bunch of no hopers who’ll adversely affect the English coefficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 6 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: It makes it even more annoying missing out on CL qualification to Man Utd. A bunch of no hopers who’ll adversely affect the English coefficient Not sure we'd have done any better in that group though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 6 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: It makes it even more annoying missing out on CL qualification to Man Utd. A bunch of no hopers who’ll adversely affect the English coefficient They need to invest in a decent central defender - got any thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 1 minute ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Not sure we'd have done any better in that group though. It was actually a ‘tongue in cheek’ reference to the narrative that followed our PL win in 2016 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 23 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Not sure we'd have done any better in that group though. Possibly not but we would've have a decent chunk of money that we could spend on important stuff (like replacement corner flags). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 With Man Utd, Spurs and Arsenal in the Europa League I wonder which obscure channel our games will be put on they'll forget we're in it all together. So from a quick look at the champions leagues groups, it seems Olympiakos/Marseille, Dynamo Kiev, Krasdonor, Salzburg are most likely to be unseeded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StanSP Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 This is why we must finish top and not mess up tomorrow. Avoiding Ajax/Atalanta (Group D), Gladbach/Shakhtar/Real Madrid (Group B) would be very favourable for us. If Atletico (Group A) lose tonight they'll be on six points and go in as one of the unseeded teams as all of the teams above have 7 points. They'd be the obvious team to avoid in that unseeded section. Olympiacos or Marseille (Group C) are guaranteed to be unseeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 5 minutes ago, StanSP said: This is why we must finish top and not mess up tomorrow. Avoiding Ajax/Atalanta (Group D), Gladbach/Shakhtar/Real Madrid (Group B) would be very favourable for us. If Atletico (Group A) lose tonight they'll be on six points and go in as one of the unseeded teams as all of the teams above have 7 points. They'd be the obvious team to avoid in that unseeded section. Olympiacos or Marseille (Group C) are guaranteed to be unseeded. Yeah agreed, play 7-8 of the big guns and take bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 9 December 2020 Share Posted 9 December 2020 3 hours ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Not sure we'd have done any better in that group though. So we'd have ended up in the last 32 of the Europa League, after having earned more money than the teams who started the EL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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