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2 hours ago, Corky said:

Assist stats can be misleading. You can create plenty of excellent chances that the finisher misses. Key chances created is a much better measure.

Even “key” chances can be misleading as they do not tell you how good the weight of the ball is, how good of an angle of the pass it is, whether it is slightly behind the player, etc. Better than assist stat but nothing replaces actually watching the games in full and following the whole context.  This is why TV pundits are often so bad with their opinions when they don’t and can’t watch all the games and rely on stats and soundbites to appear knowledgeable to justify their pay, fanning misconceptions.

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18 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

Sadly Maddison will never be a top player, despite what he thinks in his own head. He doesn't have the ability to beat a man nor create space to create worry in a defence that sit deep against us. His set pieces are embarrassing and if I was him I would have given them up long ago. We will be laughing to the bank again when he's the next overrated Englishman to leave this club for big money.

Take it you didn't watch the Braga game were he did just that...

 

 

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14 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

He's won us 2 this season already.

Sorry Ric should have been more clear on my post. I was on about us being the most proflic team from chances created and converting chances. Would penalties count in that or🤷‍♂️

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Maddison's xA last season was 7.4 so he was let down by our finishing quite badly but still as our most advanced and main creator I feel he's not reached anywhere near the levels I was hoping for. 

82 apps, 18 goal, 12 assists - certainly not bad but ~10 goals and 10 assists should be what he's achieving given his talent.

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On 08/12/2020 at 16:53, Corky said:

Assist stats can be misleading. You can create plenty of excellent chances that the finisher misses. Key chances created is a much better measure.

 

This is correct. Mesut Ozil for example, created a shed load of chances in 15/16 but they were being squandered by Giroud and Welbeck.  If he had Van Persie on the end of those chances Ozil would have broken the all time PL assist record.

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