5waller5 957 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, Blanchflower78 said: Anyone who thinks that's a legit pen has no right to ever use the phrase "games gone" - ever..... Having watched the games yesterday with the handball penalties given ours was a cast iron penalty. I don't agree with the rule, but it should be used consistently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo 17,130 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Just now, 5waller5 said: Maybe not, but his hand went towards a slow moving ball .... it was easily handball I agree, at worst it at least deserved a longer look on VAR. Looked a cert to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,441 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, smitha said: This time hopefully the return of Timmy, Riccy, Wilf and Cats will act as a positive, get a quick positive result and we will be fine, a bad day at the office move on. We’ll still defend like pussies against Liverpool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOXSE 442 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 2 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: You do know the difference between "getting upset" and "overreaction" yeah? When Liverpool lost 7-2 to villa, I wonder how the fans reacted? That was a much worse result than ours tonight, right? It happens... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blanchflower78 579 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, foxes_rule1978 said: It is a pen though, he uses his hand to push the ball clear ... however Liverpool fully deserved the win regardless Never in a million years and if that was at the other end youd be screaming blue murder. His arm is by his side and deflects to it, at no point did he push the ball clear. I wish it was a clear incident as a pen was about our best chance of scoring tonight sadly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,424 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, Clever Fox said: Our midfield is too easily overrun because we lack a physical presence and your never going to get that form Tielemans or Maddison. Even on the ball Tielemans looked lost today and Maddison was pretty much a passenger all game. I just wonder is he still having trouble with his long term injury. But the Manger sets the tone for the performance and I just feel the players weren't in the right frame of mind from the off. Then when things don't go well they struggle. Having said you you can't take anything away from Liverpool's performance, They were well up for it were we lacked belief from the start. We need another Window or 2 to bridge that gap and add the right players. I'm not sure there's too much merit in criticising Tielemans, Maddison, etc too much. They are quite simply playing against better players and if they turn up and are in the mood pretty much every oher midfield 3 in the league will struggle against them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxes_rule1978 3,466 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Just now, Blanchflower78 said: Never in a million years and if that was at the other end youd be screaming blue murder. His arm is by his side and deflects to it, at no point did he push the ball clear. I wish it was a clear incident as a pen was about our best chance of scoring tonight sadly! Well we have had penalties against us for a lot less... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ParkerPen 251 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 not a pen, grasping at straws with that, and wouldn't have affected the result. JJ and kasper aside everyone played as though drugged today - bad day at the office all round 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vazman 136 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Harvey Barnes is so frustrating, how many chances is he going to keep on missing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingleicester 269 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Maddison was absolutely shocking tonight, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paddy. 14,611 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 All about how / if we bounce back now for me. If we beat Braga and Fulham then this was just a bad day at the office. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winteriscoming 1,103 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 I don’t think it was a penalty but imagine it being the other end. They would of looked at it longer and there would have been a discussion on sky about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5waller5 957 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Well we have had penalties against us for a lot less... ALOT less ..... watching the penalties given this last few games this was as cast iron a penalty as there is. He moved his hand towards a slow moving ball - it wasn't even going to hit his hand until he moved it! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smitha 257 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 3 minutes ago, st albans fox said: We’ll still defend like pussies against Liverpool! Bloody predictive text Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo 17,130 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Just now, Vazman said: Harvey Barnes is so frustrating, how many chances is he going to keep on missing. This why he wasn't picked for England and not the conspiracy theories posted on here. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smitha 257 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, Kingleicester said: Maddison was absolutely shocking tonight, Many where to be fair, just a collective bad performance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 28,267 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 4 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Our midfield is too easily overrun because we lack a physical presence and your never going to get that form Tielemans or Maddison. Even on the ball Tielemans looked lost today and Maddison was pretty much a passenger all game. I just wonder is he still having trouble with his long term injury. But the Manger sets the tone for the performance and I just feel the players weren't in the right frame of mind from the off. Then when things don't go well they struggle. Having said you you can't take anything away from Liverpool's performance, They were well up for it were we lacked belief from the start. We need another Window or 2 to bridge that gap and add the right players. I don't think today was anything about physical presence. Liverpool, off the ball, pressed centrally which is where Mendy & Tielemans & Maddison flourish. They won the ball back as a result. If teams want to capitalise against us then that is one efficient way of doing it. In some games this season we've played teams off the park because the midfield have succeeded in quick passing and quick 1-2s as we move up the pitch. Today that couldn't be done because you had a combination of Jones, Keita, Wijnaldum all pressing in the right areas, and at times one of their front 3 would help out too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Royston. 1,883 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 10 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Nice post and well described. It's an old cliché, but you learn more from losing than winning. Again, manager and players will - in a way - look forward to deconstructing what went wrong and how to address those failings. We'll end up a better team for tonight's humbling experience. Better how? Dont score own goals and dont make defensive errors of judgement? Dont set up defensively against a team who can shred you to pieces on the counter? The number of times we've employed tonights tactics we were bound to get fuched over at some stage, least of all by the best team in the league. Yes experience will be useful but the best players in the world will still make errors like we did tonight. Just a bad day at the office.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy king 156 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 8 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: You do know the difference between "getting upset" and "overreaction" yeah? That's something my missus would say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingleicester 269 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Just now, smitha said: Many where to be fair, just a collective bad performance. True, Maddison frustrated me more then any other, seemed disinterested! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brooksy 3,113 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Just seen the result. Any positives at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ParkerPen 251 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Just now, Brooksy said: Just seen the result. Any positives at all? liverpool missed a shed load of chances Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M0901 1,167 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 1 minute ago, Brooksy said: Just seen the result. Any positives at all? Kasper and JJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamfox 77 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 Well actually if you discount the illegal goals and count the legal goals we should have scored, then we won. WE WON BY A LOT But seriously, disappointing , but I'm still feeling positive about having a good season 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Oxlong 7,862 Posted 22 November 2020 Report Share Posted 22 November 2020 It’s as if we have a massive inferiority complex against Liverpool atm and think we are just there to make up the numbers We have the ability but not the mentality to give them a decent game 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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