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New Champions League format from 2024

By Tielemans63, in Leicester City Forum

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The integrity of the CL will have gone by this point. You should have to earn a right to be amongst the best in Europe and not because of your history or past performances. Where is the incentive for the teams to do well in it when some know they'll get a free pass in the following season. I wouldn't be surprised if teams started to treat it as a mickey mouse competition and prioritised the league instead. 

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14 hours ago, Paddy. said:

For all intents and purposes, this is that 'breakaway European Super League' the big clubs have been planning for years, in all but name. 

 

This surely means that the likes of Liverpool and United will never not qualify ever again. Self-serving ***** 

The European Super League from day one has been a bargaining tool and never any serious suggestion because anyone with a brain knows it would fall flat on its arse in a few years. They threaten the worst things like that just to make things like this seem more acceptable - and plenty sadly fall for it.

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14 hours ago, Babylon said:

Based on past but recent results in Europe... and you can only get the points for being in Europe. So currently 9th place Arsenal can keep getting into Europe through past European results and keep amassing the points needed to keep them getting a wild card, despite finishing mid table umpteen times.

 

Only chance any club has of stopping it is basically getting into Europe 5 seasons running and doing well, we'd then become a the wild card. 

We wouldn't. They would change the rules again before we could if there was any risk we'd manage doing that.

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4 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

It moves football away from competition to show business.

 

Fans need to unite against this. Big time.

What fans? They don’t care about local fans or match going fans. They care about the billions around the world watching it who’ve never been to a match in their lives and have picked whatever team is currently winning stuff as their team to support.

 

And those “fans” will absolutely love the idea.

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5 hours ago, Babylon said:

What fans? They don’t care about local fans or match going fans. They care about the billions around the world watching it who’ve never been to a match in their lives and have picked whatever team is currently winning stuff as their team to support.

 

And those “fans” will absolutely love the idea.

I think a fair few fans of the ‘big clubs’ don’t support this type of move, and certainly anything that moves toward a European super league.

 

I don’t think your description is of fans, it’s more a customer. Perish the thought that people who watch European football in America and Asia should be the driver or reforms to established competitions, which could have big impact on our national game. Fans - ie who turn up and watch their team - will hopefully oppose this, not that will change anything. 
 

You could argue that commercial considerations have already changed the fabric of the game, but this proposal effectively reduces competition and qualifying on merit and safeguards the interests of clubs who slip down their own national league - like an Arsenal for example. 
 

Soon they’ll end relegation. It’s already been raised hasn’t it? Just because owners don’t want to lose revenue if their team has had results. No longer then will it he called ‘sport’, and it will be like going to the theatre - all planned and staged. 
 

Wondered off point a little there, but the worlds going to the toilet isn’t it...

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6 hours ago, Babylon said:

What fans? They don’t care about local fans or match going fans. They care about the billions around the world watching it who’ve never been to a match in their lives and have picked whatever team is currently winning stuff as their team to support.

 

And those “fans” will absolutely love the idea.

Wouldn't be shocked if some of these matches are played around the world- the pre-season tours have shown the amount of people willing to pay to watch these teams in meaningless games. If it's competitive the demand will be even greater.

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16 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Shameful decision, no doubt made by a bunch of old timers who are terrified that football is not as kind to the so called elite as it once was. Football like most things now is dying a pitiful death. 

Usually its the younger foreign Management mixed with older Pediatrics who believe unnecessary  Milestone  changes are always good  ....

Since the 60s, in all walks of life, its 'we can only show good management' , if we Mix-up & change things..Being a tosser & moronic, have no age limits...

 

Around Europe a mix of Big Club & other clubs fans, have also demonstrated their anger,with banners in or around their grounds...Bit

 

Big Question is...Its in the regular fans hands....have we/they The balls, ??? to inform their own clubs, if they Dont appose "loudly" these changes, there will

be the occasional Empty terraces...and no support of going to Watch or pay to see European football....

Fans can also get organised across clubs...Grab-back the game.. By showing no interest...!!

 

movements name... " Four jumpers"....it only needs Four Jumpers to make the  goals & a game..!!

 

We  dont need any VAR

We Dont need any thought control

All in all we are just One fan in the wall...

 

Uefa-Fifa, Football President plastics...

All in all we are just One fan in the wall

just leave "our" Football alone

 

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It does piss me off as well that these changes are brought in without anyone asking the actual fans (who fund football) if they are happy with it. I don't believe for one minute that actual fans (not glory fans from Africa and Asia) of any europes elite clubs would want this. The only people who benefit are the greedy club owners and the probably uefa and all their corrupt business men. The whole thing stinks and is another reason why so many people are going off football  

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23 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

And they have a salary cap too. I don't like the NFL franchise system, but at least it is a meritocracy. The most recent Superbowl was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Vs Kansas City Chiefs. That would be the equivalent of something like Bournemouth Vs Norwich. Meanwhile the Dallas Cowboys, the most valuable sports team in the world, haven't sniffed a Superbowl in 25 years.

Not to side-track too much but why do you say that? Chiefs seem set to be the next "dynastic" franchise and the Bucs are hardly cash strapped are they? They also have a Superbowl in the last 20 years, which is better than half of the league.

 

The other big difference with the NFL is that it's never been a tiered system, it has been a single league system since inception. There is no tie to semi-pro or amateur leagues.

 

The pyramid structure is what makes our game what it is. 

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This new system does mean that teams line man utd and Liverpool and even spurs don't need to prioritise the league any more as there can still get champions league whereas a club life ours would have to go full tilt all season.

 

It stops becoming a sport when teams can qualify on anything other than merit.

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5 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Not to side-track too much but why do you say that? Chiefs seem set to be the next "dynastic" franchise and the Bucs are hardly cash strapped are they? They also have a Superbowl in the last 20 years, which is better than half of the league.

 

The other big difference with the NFL is that it's never been a tiered system, it has been a single league system since inception. There is no tie to semi-pro or amateur leagues.

 

The pyramid structure is what makes our game what it is. 

I was talking about the relative size of the cities. Both Tampa and Kansas are tiny compared the major city markets like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago etc. There is not a chance either Tampa or Kansas would be able to sustain a successful team without the NFL's revenue sharing and the  salary cap.

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17 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Absolutely disgusting and arrogant article from Phillip Lahm......but nice of him to include us.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/08/bigger-more-diverse-european-super-league-can-enrich-football-philipp-lahm

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Today, tripping and brutal tackles are heavily penalised, and such fouls have all but disappeared. The international football community agreed on the stricter approach in a transparent process. Players must now play fair, and fouls are seen as a last resort. These days, the end is justified by the means. For this development, from which I profited as a player, I would like to thank all those involved.

 

Yeah good to get rid of dangerous tackles but now been replaced by diving, faking injury and excessive theatrical response to even mild tackles.

 

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26 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Absolutely disgusting and arrogant article from Phillip Lahm......but nice of him to include us.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/08/bigger-more-diverse-european-super-league-can-enrich-football-philipp-lahm

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What a bizarre article...He makes a lot of great points - the basis of the article is that there is so much heritage in European football - there are so many different countries producing top players, achieving at major tournaments, and so many different countries have had periods at the top with Ajax, Dynamo Kyiv, Red Star Belgrade, Benfica and MTK Budapest all having had success in the past, that it is sad to see the current unfair state of the European Cup (5 out of 8 QFs are from the rich England/Germany).

 

So you think the solution is to widen the playing field to enable these teams to compete again, but no, he then says he wants a Super League with the existing top few clubs fleshed out by Bruges, St Petersburg, Athens, Copenhagen and Prague on the basis he likes those cities...

 

Its like someone has paid him to say that he likes the Super League format and given him a reason for it that it would attract investors - and he has done that, but completely failed to make a case for it otherwise.

 

 

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Wouldn't it just be easier to disband all football, apart from Real Madrid vs AC Milan, they can compete twice a week, logic being, they are the most successful clubs since the conception of the European cup?

 

So why waste any time with any other lesser successful clubs, nobody wants any variety in completive football, according to the executives of the top clubs, so lets just have the same game twice a week! Surely every person on the planet will be fascinated by this never ending spectacle, I have carefully calculated that this never ending game will generate 123456789 Ethereum each match :thumbup:

 

Perfect right?

 

 

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