Adrien Silva

[Bayfox]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Wow, I pretty sure Chelsea use the loan

market as a money make machine, which why they stockpile players. 

 

Last year they had 40 players out on loan!

they do, we paid 500k to loan bruma that time, and got money back every time he played, sven admitted that at a Q&A, so you pay upfront and then almost feel obliged to play the player even if he's not that good.

 

Also, development of youngsters isn't within FFP so they stock pile kids at a young age and it doesn't matter but now days you can sell kids for 5 million upwards and that goes into your accounts, helping with FFP, develop 10 kids, decide to let them go, you can make some serious money helps pay eden hazards wages or 35 million for drinkwater  

[BKLFox]

I can see Silva covering for Maddison more than 1 of the DM roles, he’s got the skill set to play the #10 role & have Mendy / Ndidi sat behind him.

[RumbleFox]

I feel like when I watch him play he does things that lots of our other players cannot (simple passes, vision good, close control).  He seems very technically adept and I feel like in the right team/position he could be a good player in the PL.   I just feel bad for the way it went with him at the start and now it looks a long way back for him into the first team.  Could he play in one of the three behind the striker?  Not sure.  I want him to succeed but I would not break up the Ndidi/Mendy partnership right now.  X

[Nod.E]

4 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Seriously is he that much better than King?

Yes.

[FoxinNotts]

Just now, Nod.E said:

Yes.

Agree, he’s a cut above Kingy.

Both players should be played slightly further forward, maybe in a three man midfield, in the prem.

[Beechey]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/adrien-silva-refutes-claims-agreed-1973163?34

[fuchsntf]

8 hours ago, onekeithweller said:

 

haven't ripped up the cobbles,  then some wombles decide... 

 

That's going to stick in my mind for ever.

 

I have a liquorice-all sorts mix of such quotes,...New-Parks-backwood-street education..

[KingsX]

8 hours ago, onekeithweller said:

 

haven't ripped up the cobbles,  then some wombles decide... 

 

That's going to stick in my mind for ever.

 

 

One of many sources where @fuchsntf  gets his material

[murphy]

4 hours ago, BKLFox said:

I can see Silva covering for Maddison more than 1 of the DM roles, he’s got the skill set to play the #10 role & have Mendy / Ndidi sat behind him.

He's not a no.10.

 

Ineanacho, Ghezzal and Gray would be picked to cover Maddison before Silva.

[fuchsntf]

3 minutes ago, murphy said:

He's not a no.10.

 

Ineanacho, Ghezzal and Gray would be picked to cover Maddison before Silva.

Thx....Mr Puel...

Pray Tell us in today's world what a No10 is/does...because in these last 10+yrs, trainers and coaches,have really mixed the duties up of this

fans coveted shirt.No...

[murphy]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Thx....Mr Puel...

Pray Tell us in today's world what a No10 is/does...because in these last 10+yrs, trainers and coaches,have really mixed the duties up of this

fans coveted shirt.No...

My pleasure and it's Mr Murphy, but just plain sir will do.

 

[StriderHiryu]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Thx....Mr Puel...

Pray Tell us in today's world what a No10 is/does...because in these last 10+yrs, trainers and coaches,have really mixed the duties up of this

fans coveted shirt.No...

 

I can't speak for the manager, but generally the 4-2-3-1 system is one of the best examples of having a traditional number 10 in the Zidane / Maradonna / Totti role.

 

The term "playmaker" about as apt as you can get for the position. This player should get on the ball often and be stringing in passes into dangerous zones creating dangerous opportunities, measured statistically with "key passes." Maddison was in the top 10 players across Europe for those last season:

 

 

 

 

[murphy]

Good article but I'm pretty sure that @fuchsntf knows exactly what a number 10 is and also that Nacho and Gray have been played there regularly by Puel and are more suited than Silva, and is just being unnecessarily cantankerous. 

[StriderHiryu]

2 minutes ago, murphy said:

Good article but I'm pretty sure that @fuchsntf knows exactly what a number 10 is and also that Nacho and Gray have been played there regularly by Puel and are more suited than Silva, and is just being unnecessarily cantankerous. 

Ha fair enough!

 

Silva seems like a box to box “busy” midfielder to me and quite similar to Danny Drinkwater who he replaced. Drinky was a good player for us but didn’t excel in any one area (maybe long passing). He had a very good contribution to the team alongside Kante and was both energetic and decent on the ball. 

 

Puel plays a double pivot which on the evidence we’ve seen doesn’t suit Silva’s natural game. I’m sure he could learn and adapt but Mendy thus far has shown him how it’s done. Very rarely gives the ball away, excellent positional discipline, brilliant short range passing, good tackler, stronger than he looks and plays it quickly. 

 

Silva had the highest number of touches of any Leicester player at Old Trafford and played some great forward passes at times. But he did also lose the ball stupidly at times or put the team in danger unnecessarily. That’s probably why Puel swapped him and based on what we’ve seen so far seems to be an inspired decision. In the second half against Liverpool, Ndidi and Mendy dominated the game. 

[Spicer]

He can only really play his best in a midfield 3 or diamond. With his previous club and for country he played in a midfield 3 and looked a lot better. Puel is tactically rigid so we won't change from 4231.

[NasPb]

He needs to play against teams that sit back a lot, and that don't really attack us. Not against the top 6. 

[STUHILL]

1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said:

Ha fair enough!

 

Silva seems like a box to box “busy” midfielder to me and quite similar to Danny Drinkwater who he replaced. Drinky was a good player for us but didn’t excel in any one area (maybe long passing). He had a very good contribution to the team alongside Kante and was both energetic and decent on the ball. 

 

Puel plays a double pivot which on the evidence we’ve seen doesn’t suit Silva’s natural game. I’m sure he could learn and adapt but Mendy thus far has shown him how it’s done. Very rarely gives the ball away, excellent positional discipline, brilliant short range passing, good tackler, stronger than he looks and plays it quickly. 

 

Silva had the highest number of touches of any Leicester player at Old Trafford and played some great forward passes at times. But he did also lose the ball stupidly at times or put the team in danger unnecessarily. That’s probably why Puel swapped him and based on what we’ve seen so far seems to be an inspired decision. In the second half against Liverpool, Ndidi and Mendy dominated the game. 

I think Silva has the quality and experience to adapt to the role Puel wants from a CM. It will take a bit of time though and not easy with him being in and out of the team. We will never get our money back for him, so I think a bit of patience with him could reap rewards later on in the season, especially if Mendy or N'didi get injured. 

 

On a side note, I'd like to see Puel use Iborra from the bench more and have him push up for corners and set plays. Last week, was a perfect situation to introduce Iborra into the game, when were looking for a goal. It's nice to think though, that we have 4 very capable CM's in our squad and Choudary developing nicely too. 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

BUMP Mendy's been good for us but I'd honestly rather see this guy starting. He's too good to be on the bench in my opinion and would be gutted to see him leave in January.

[UniFox21]

2 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

BUMP Mendy's been good for us but I'd honestly rather see this guy starting. He's too good to be on the bench in my opinion and would be gutted to see him leave in January.

I think his only issue is his physicality and defensive ability. Mendy acts as a sweeper a lot, if that can be pushed on Silva then itd be great. 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Needs to pull his finger out tonight presuming he plays if he wants to stick around... 

[Shane]

9 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

BUMP Mendy's been good for us but I'd honestly rather see this guy starting. He's too good to be on the bench in my opinion and would be gutted to see him leave in January.

I’d like to see Silva / Mendy start together personally, especially against parked buses. Only issue is that Wilf adds height to our team which is important for defending set pieces. 

[Nalis]

Surely he has some useful inside knowledge on Wolves' lesser known Portuguese contingent?

[Langston]

I don't think he's much cop, personally. 

[Ric Flair]

Will score for us tonight. 

[StriderHiryu]

55 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

BUMP Mendy's been good for us but I'd honestly rather see this guy starting. He's too good to be on the bench in my opinion and would be gutted to see him leave in January.

When Silva joined I had hoped he was going to be the missing piece for us in midfield. A better version of Danny Drinkwater who is both box to box but can also pass short and long. He came with the credentials and I remember posting some of his audacious GIFS of him in action versus Real Madrid. He also has a first class attitude.

 

But in reality, he's not performed for us... yet. There have been games where he's been decent but he's never really set the world alight. At least Iborra who is also competing to get into the team right now has had a few displays where he's been man of the match whereas Silva has yet to do that.

 

And then if you compare him to Mendy, he's just had nowhere near the same impact. Mendy in his games for us this season has been fantastic. If you watch the game again in full from the weeked, you will see how many passes he makes. He basically runs the game for us up until we can get the ball to Maddison who then runs the game for us in the final third. Both players are currently integral to the team in the way we play in a way that Silva never was. You could even make a case for Mendy being our player of the season right now!

 

That doesn't mean I've given up on Silva, but I think right now both he and Iborra have to really work hard to get ahead of Mendy. Take a look in the Mendy thread of the GIF of him making a Forest Gump style run. In that passage of play despite being a short player, he wins a header, plays it forward and then makes a lung bursting run to support the play. I haven't seen Iborra or Silva ever do that.

 

Iborra and Silva will have their chance tonight and when we hit the 21 games in 7 days period around Christmas both will be needed again. They need to take their chances when called upon and make it impossible for Puel to drop them.