UpTheLeagueFox Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 9 hours ago, OntarioFox said: Apparently, George Hirst has been working part-time down the market and telling anyone who buys a bowl of bananas that we're massive. That's nothing. There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis... 2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: The media have an agenda to make sure the big 6 stay the big 6, whatever their position in the league, because that's where the money, the fame and the recognition is at. That, I'm afraid, is bollocks. Yes the media focus more on the top six than anything else - bigger fanbases mean they sell more papers, gets more clicks etc - but suggesting they want to keep the top six the same isn't true. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 Don’t know why there’s an obsession with what pigeonhole the media put us in. The value of football is what it means to you regardless of what others think. As much as it’s been a fabulous time from the great escape and onwards I still look back with a lot of fondness at our season in League One 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubbins Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 Big 6 is primarily based on numbers of gloryhunting fans which therefore amounts to more viewers. Spurs are only in there because a run of top 4 finishes made them impossible to ignore. They are miles behind the other 5 in terms of gloryhunting fanbase and will be dropped by sky in the next couple of seasons if they carry on the way they are. Itl become the big 5. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 4 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Yes the media focus more on the top six than anything else - bigger fanbases mean they sell more papers, gets more clicks etc - but suggesting they want to keep the top six the same isn't true. At least in the case of Sky -- I don't see how you could win that side of the debate. OK, it's too sensitive to act hurt and obsess about it. But it strikes me as a carefully considered business practice. Somebody is editing the shows. Somebody is boss of the comms and pundits, directing and evaluating them. In discussing results, the table, and individual players, isn't LCFC given far less time than richer but currently far less successful clubs? With exceptions rare enough to be very noticeable. NBCSN's advertising and pundits do give us a proportion of coverage closer to our current stature as a playing unit. The contrast is striking. * caveat -- I'm saying this as someone with limited exposure (NBC broadcasts of Sky Sports News and transfer day are not things I return to, nor do I seek out their social media clips unless posted on here). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 4 minutes ago, KingsX said: At least in the case of Sky -- I don't see how you could win that side of the debate. OK, it's too sensitive to act hurt and obsess about it. But it strikes me as a carefully considered business practice. Somebody is editing the shows. Somebody is boss of the comms and pundits, directing and evaluating them. In discussing results, the table, and individual players, isn't LCFC given far less time than richer but currently far less successful clubs? With exceptions rare enough to be very noticeable. NBCSN's advertising and pundits do give us a proportion of coverage closer to our current stature as a playing unit. The contrast is striking. * caveat -- I'm saying this as someone with limited exposure (NBC broadcasts of Sky Sports News and transfer day are not things I return to, nor do I seek out their social media clips unless posted on here). It's made worse on Sky and BT because this bias is not new for years now they been showing more of the Rich 4/6 live games than the other teams. So on the reruns of previous games and their reviews of current games they have so much more material for those 6 clubs to keep regurgitating. You can see this quite clearly when they run their previous season review montages especially for 2015/16 where in the hour long programme they have very few bits of our games until you get to the last few even then most attention is focused on the Chelsea /v Spurs game where of course Chelsea won the League for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grebfromgrebland Posted 17 February 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 17 February 2021 I actually think we do get enough credit on TV. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhYesNdidi Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 7 minutes ago, davieG said: It's made worse on Sky and BT because this bias is not new for years now they been showing more of the Rich 4/6 live games than the other teams. So on the reruns of previous games and their reviews of current games they have so much more material for those 6 clubs to keep regurgitating. You can see this quite clearly when they run their previous season review montages especially for 2015/16 where in the hour long programme they have very few bits of our games until you get to the last few even then most attention is focused on the Chelsea /v Spurs game where of course Chelsea won the League for us. Cant underestimate Chelsea’s role in our title win! So grateful how they won the last 10 games for us that season. Respect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KingsX Posted 17 February 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 17 February 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, davieG said: It's made worse on Sky and BT because this bias is not new for years now they been showing more of the Rich 4/6 live games than the other teams. So on the reruns of previous games and their reviews of current games they have so much more material for those 6 clubs to keep regurgitating. You can see this quite clearly when they run their previous season review montages especially for 2015/16 where in the hour long programme they have very few bits of our games until you get to the last few even then most attention is focused on the Chelsea /v Spurs game where of course Chelsea won the League for us. The ironic thing is, Sky and the rest are probably missing a trick. The quality and entertainment of LCFC football, and the attractiveness of somebody sticking it to The Man, are not to be underestimated. Scan the HYS comments below our bbc.com match reports, and you’ll find lots of neutrals enthusing, with their comments sometimes getting hundreds of upvotes. “Stay in your lane” comments are massively downvoted. Plenty of people give a damn. We are a club neutrals currently tune in for. It’s again a “can they do it” story. But now it’s “can they crash that ****ing club” -- which, importantly, translates to “could WE crash that ****ing club” for an actual majority of supporters. People are hungry for a fresher narrative than “money monopolizes PL success (and airtime)”. But where are the major British media? “Fat, dumb and happy oligopolists act clueless” shocker. Their loss. Edited 17 February 2021 by KingsX 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 46 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: That's nothing. There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis... That, I'm afraid, is bollocks. Yes the media focus more on the top six than anything else - bigger fanbases mean they sell more papers, gets more clicks etc - but suggesting they want to keep the top six the same isn't true. More confusion about 'top' and 'big'. LCFC have been top 6 for 2 seasons now. However, I think big refers to financial status. Or summat. Sky favour big as it gets them more viewers, clicks, bets etc. Which do we aspire to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 Big or Top, it makes no difference, its all about what the metric is based on, it is essentially the same low rumbling invisible dissonance that has been, and continues rippling through society. The sickening ability to reset or redefine observable evidence to suit a different narrative/agenda. The same holds true in so called fake news (clearly of far more import) but it echoes through society at all its many levels of import. Anyway, we is 3rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gw_leics772 Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 3 hours ago, Foxy_Bear said: Serious question, does anyone actually WANT to be considered part of the big six? It doesn't really mean anything, does it? Its a tag attached to you by the media that awards you more coverage but that brings with it more scrutiny, criticism and pressure to the team. Not to mention plastic fans from places like Africa that add nothing to our club but a skewed and warped appearance to who we actually are. I'll take finishing top 6 year in, year out without their mainstream acceptance quite gladly. If the success continued it is the next natural step but Id be happy with a few more years of "big 6 + leicester" where they have to begrudgingly include us due to us continuing to outperform the big 6. Whether it lasts or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 1 hour ago, davieG said: It's made worse on Sky and BT because this bias is not new for years now they been showing more of the Rich 4/6 live games than the other teams. So on the reruns of previous games and their reviews of current games they have so much more material for those 6 clubs to keep regurgitating. You can see this quite clearly when they run their previous season review montages especially for 2015/16 where in the hour long programme they have very few bits of our games until you get to the last few even then most attention is focused on the Chelsea /v Spurs game where of course Chelsea won the League for us. Well, that's half true. You see when our fixtures get spread (and they most certainly are this year), purchasing the rights to show those games clips becomes problematic. Basically unless you broadcast most of the games, the clips you have access to can be limited. Not sure if that's changed or not, or I'm talking absolute balls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wizerud Posted 17 February 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 17 February 2021 https://www.90min.com/posts/the-strikers-that-leicester-should-target-to-replace-jamie-vardy-ranked A fairly comprehensive article over a long-belaboured point. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 41 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said: If the success continued it is the next natural step but Id be happy with a few more years of "big 6 + leicester" where they have to begrudgingly include us due to us continuing to outperform the big 6. Whether it lasts or not. I like this 'big 6 plus Leicester' tag. It's becoming a universal tagline. Reinforces our disrupter, outlier image....so much cooler than old.money 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 9 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: Well, that's half true. You see when our fixtures get spread (and they most certainly are this year), purchasing the rights to show those games clips becomes problematic. Basically unless you broadcast most of the games, the clips you have access to can be limited. Not sure if that's changed or not, or I'm talking absolute balls... I get that and because between them they show all of the Rich 6's games then they'll obviously have access to more clips of their games. I think that was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 1 minute ago, Paninistickers said: I like this 'big 6 plus Leicester' tag. It's becoming a universal tagline. Reinforces our disrupter, outlier image....so much cooler than old.money Prefer Rich 6 + Leicester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 8 minutes ago, Wizerud said: https://www.90min.com/posts/the-strikers-that-leicester-should-target-to-replace-jamie-vardy-ranked A fairly comprehensive article over a long-belaboured point. I'm not convinced we need a like for like striker our game is much more complex yet adjustable than it was in 2015/16 so I'm sure we have the players and manager to adapt our playing style to suit a number of different types of striker. With the striker position you can have cover that provides a like for like in case of injuries or someone that allows you to change your approach to the game vital if your 1st choice is struggling to make an impact. Of Course 3/4 equally good ones would be better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said: I actually think we do get enough credit on TV. Wow! What are you doing on this forum with that sort of positivity? Begone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARTY_FOX Posted 17 February 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 17 February 2021 We get credit for the way we play and operate to be fair. Obviously we get over looked in the "Man city move 8 points clear of Liverpool" when they're moving say 2 clear of ourselves. But I'm ok with that. I like the idea of being the establishments unwanted problem. Its fun. Seeing comments like from the spurs fans outraged at the thought of us daring to muck up the narrative they themselves worked hard to be part of. The more people we wind up by being the 'and leicester' at the end of the big 6 the better. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 5 hours ago, Finnegan said: True but then Tottenham are extremely, extremely borderline and barely squeeze in to make it a "six." It's insecurity in the knowledge they don't really belong at the top table either that has them lashing out and the nearest thing approaching, which is us. I know. If they are suggesting we're not a big six club (we aren't) because of our lack of trophies then how can they put themselves in a group with Arsenal, Man United and Liverpool then? Let alone above the likes of Aston Villa and Everton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylesta Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 5 minutes ago, Corky said: I know. If they are suggesting we're not a big six club (we aren't) because of our lack of trophies then how can they put themselves in a group with Arsenal, Man United and Liverpool then? Let alone above the likes of Aston Villa and Everton. But since the premier league began we have won more than, spurs, villa and everton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 The problem is the big 6 becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. More exposure = more fans = more money = more exposure etc. The beauty of sport is it is a meritocracy, think if sprinting it doesn't matter who you are where you're from if you can run faster you will win races. The problem with team sports is the accumulation of talent and uneven distribution of money. Sky and the big 6 exacerbate this by funnelling more money to the big six by showing more of their games. You get more money for every game shown and more exposure. You show a team more, they get more money they maintain their status as the big 6. It will be interesting to see how the tv payments change this season when every game is on tv. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foxoffderby Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 2 hours ago, Wizerud said: https://www.90min.com/posts/the-strikers-that-leicester-should-target-to-replace-jamie-vardy-ranked A fairly comprehensive article over a long-belaboured point. Buy both Daka and Toney for me lots of games next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayday Posted 17 February 2021 Share Posted 17 February 2021 A decent thread on KUMB( West Ham forum) The difference between West Ham and Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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