Dan Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 1 hour ago, Mythyaar said: Everton been tracking him for years. Sell him for £20 million. Move on. They've surely given up now.
Clarkey123 Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 Crazy the amount of brain Barnes has over the lad.
UniFox21 Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 7 hours ago, Blue ROI said: True we didn't spend that much on him but Zieler and Hernandez were hardly record signings either and neither has a good reputation. The first few signings after Nigel Pearson really brought the club down a bit. The likes of Kante? But neither are brought up or labelled our worst signing due to the small fee.
Bryn Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 Don't think he is going to make it as a starter here. Squad player or move him on.
Blue ROI Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 2 hours ago, UniFox21 said: The likes of Kante? But neither are brought up or labelled our worst signing due to the small fee. I'll put that one down to Nigel and his backroom team.
ThaiFox Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 17 hours ago, jeffschlupp said: Deserved to start for me - if he has been ripping it up in training as Rodgers says, coupled with his really bright performance against Bournemouth, then it's important to reward that. Yes he could've played Barnes, but both he and Maddison are untested wide right. I think it was a good decision with the premise that Demarai would take his chance and prove he deserved it. What has actually happened is Demarai has shat on Rodgers for showing faith in him, by being utterly diabolical again. The one time we had space in behind their midfield in the entire match, he twatted it from 35 yards and it dribbled out. He was back to his greedy f***er, sulking looking at the floor, going down under soft challenges, and doing f*** all to help the team progress in the build-up. You'd hope he has had a right bollocking in the dressing room afterwards because for a manager to start you over three wingers who have either performed much better or have a better reputation deserves at least some effort and desire to improve and help. Of all the things in that game, he has proper pissed me off. His cameo v Bournemouth was quite good, but against a team we were already beating. All players should show a positive and hungry attitude in training. I'm afraid I disagree that just because he's been good in training he should get the nod over Barnes & Albrighton who have been consistently good in matches. That sends a negative message to those two players. If a player is playing well in matches, he shouldn't be dropped. If your standards drop, then you will be dropped and it's up to the replacement to show he's worthy of keeping the shirt. And that's the message BR should be sending out. This isn't Celtic, where we are playing part timers every other week, and you can get away with sub standard performances. As Man City found out yesterday, you can't take anything for granted.
Suzie the Fox Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 I'm no fan of Gray and he certainly didn't help himself yesterday, but some of the comments in this thread are more than harsh.:(
foxile5 Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 He suffered from Schlupp syndrome. Physically he's got it all but there's no brain up top. Incidentally, when was the last time we had a number seven who really lived up to the number
49er Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 3 minutes ago, foxile5 said: Incidentally, when was the last time we had a number seven who really lived up to the number Charlie Chan
Fox92 Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 Bizarre picking him anyway. Gone from not playing to all of a sudden in a starting side.
Cjt1976 Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 We will not get anywhere near £20m for him, I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the squad totally overrated hopefully Albrighton gets the nod on Saturday
scinnell Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 2 hours ago, foxile5 said: He suffered from Schlupp syndrome. Physically he's got it all but there's no brain up top. Incidentally, when was the last time we had a number seven who really lived up to the number Nobby Solano?
MrsJohnMurphy Posted 15 September 2019 Posted 15 September 2019 13 minutes ago, Cjt1976 said: We will not get anywhere near £20m for him, I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the squad totally overrated hopefully Albrighton gets the nod on Saturday so we'll probably get £20m easily
Always Next Year Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 Agree with everything said about Gray, not good enough he needs to move on. But having said that Chilwell also needs a kick up the backside, to many backward and sideways balls not enough attacking runs down the wing and takes an age to take a throw in. Makes me wonder if it’s something that Southgate as brought into his game.
sacreblueits442 Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 ...just looking at the Norwich second goal, you just know if the player playing the assist was Gray he would have tried to score himself. Absolutely amazing watching them beat the Man. City press, you can see they understand where they should be, no panic, great composure.
urban fox Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 I find Gray so frustrating. he obviously has plenty of raw talent but he just has not improved. He is no longer an 18 year old "one for the future" and it does not look like he is going to fulfill his potential. Raw talent only gets you so far, you need a footballing brain and be able to make the right decisions or there will be no end product. I have no problem with him being "greedy" if he was regularly sticking the goals in but this is not the case and its down to knowing when to go on your own and when to pass. Vardy, for example, is a striker who is always going to look to score, but his assists stats also show that he knows when a team mate is in a better position. I think Gray is going to go down as one of those nearly men. Almost a great player, but unfortunately seems to have stumbled/stagnated. I am sure he could do a job for a lower prem/upper championship side but unless something happens soon he is not up to scratch for a team with top six ambitions.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 He's 23 years old now, he's not some kid anymore. His stats are quite frankly laughable too. He's had his chances for me, cut our losses and invest our time (and money) into someone else. 2
sacreblueits442 Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 34 minutes ago, urban fox said: I find Gray so frustrating. he obviously has plenty of raw talent but he just has not improved. He is no longer an 18 year old "one for the future" and it does not look like he is going to fulfill his potential. Raw talent only gets you so far, you need a footballing brain and be able to make the right decisions or there will be no end product. I have no problem with him being "greedy" if he was regularly sticking the goals in but this is not the case and its down to knowing when to go on your own and when to pass. Vardy, for example, is a striker who is always going to look to score, but his assists stats also show that he knows when a team mate is in a better position. I think Gray is going to go down as one of those nearly men. Almost a great player, but unfortunately seems to have stumbled/stagnated. I am sure he could do a job for a lower prem/upper championship side but unless something happens soon he is not up to scratch for a team with top six ambitions. ....going on the Norwich game against Man. City, perhaps he might excel in a regimented format such as that!!!! The way they play is very controlled and is a certain pattern and the need to understand your position within the team. I think it would simplify the game for Gray and takes the decision making aspect away from him, as within the pattern, he knows where player "A" will be, in relation to his position on the pitch. The possibility, that another environment, might suit his needs and could provide that opening he needs to fulfill his potential. Like any kind of learning, some people do not learn the same and he probably needs another way and approach to get where we believe he should be.
KingKoala Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 He needs to get loaned out to championship team in January window. He is probably okay as a sub but he is nowhere good enough as a starter at this level. We should have kept Ghezzal instead of Gray I would say... 1
Nick Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 54 minutes ago, KingKoala said: He needs to get loaned out to championship team in January window. He is probably okay as a sub but he is nowhere good enough as a starter at this level. We should have kept Ghezzal instead of Gray I would say... Steady on 1
FoxFossil Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 On 15/09/2019 at 14:01, foxile5 said: He suffered from Schlupp syndrome. Physically he's got it all but there's no brain up top. Incidentally, when was the last time we had a number seven who really lived up to the number John Farrington. 1
foxinsocks Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 1 hour ago, KingKoala said: He needs to get loaned out to championship team in January window. He is probably okay as a sub but he is nowhere good enough as a starter at this level. We should have kept Ghezzal instead of Gray I would say... Diabate?
weller54 Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 3 hours ago, KingKoala said: He needs to get loaned out to championship team in January window. He is probably okay as a sub but he is nowhere good enough as a starter at this level. We should have kept Ghezzal instead of Gray I would say... Not as crazy as it sounds... Gray really is abysmal.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 (edited) The winger we're stuck with vs. the winger we should have signed in the summer. Demarai Gray = 34 appearances, 4 goals, 1 assist. Ryan Fraser = 38 appearances, 7 goals, 14 assists. Edited 16 September 2019 by Leicester_Loyal
Bourne Blue& White Posted 16 September 2019 Posted 16 September 2019 He passes when he should shoot, and shoots when he should pass. 1
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