Manwell Pablo Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 43 minutes ago, MPH said: There will come a time when he will want regular first team football. Weekly. Admittedly Sheffield United were a bad example but for someone fighting near the bottom of the league getting someone as good as Gray on loan would be a dream in almost any circumstance - they wont be 'stuck' with a high wage earner in case they do go down. The idea of someone joining a team and a clause being they MUST play happens far more than people realize. They all want to play weekly, there is the understanding you have to work for it in the professional game and he's better off here doing just that rather than going off on loan coming back and being in the same situation he is now but potentially worse as his competition has completely cemented his place in Gray's absence. At the end of the day he's 23 now, if he want's to go somewhere where it's significant;y easier to get in the team it should be a permanent move. He looks happy enough at the moment though and it's good for us that he's knocking on the door. Oh it happens, I am not sure Demari Gray is good enough to go somewhere in the Premier League on those premises though, even the teams struggling at the bottom have an array of quality players these days it's a bi product of how much money is in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 Looks like a genius when he comes on in games. Looks like Demari Gray when he starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 Can't believe he's hooked a load back on the back of a good 120 minutes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said: They all want to play weekly, there is the understanding you have to work for it in the professional game and he's better off here doing just that rather than going off on loan coming back and being in the same situation he is now but potentially worse as his competition has completely cemented his place in Gray's absence. At the end of the day he's 23 now, if he want's to go somewhere where it's significant;y easier to get in the team it should be a permanent move. He looks happy enough at the moment though and it's good for us that he's knocking on the door. Oh it happens, I am not sure Demari Gray is good enough to go somewhere in the Premier League on those premises though, even the teams struggling at the bottom have an array of quality players these days it's a bi product of how much money is in the league. id agree with you but sometimes you have to put yourself in the shop window to get the move you want. sometimes that can be the same club as your loan move. There wasn’t many clubs ( including us) lining up to pay the 40m Monaco were asking for Tielemens until they’d seen him play regularly in a loan deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsintskaro Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 He did great when they scored second goal but besides that he was bellow average in other few moments still hes fine for that 15-20 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goober Posted 4 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 4 November 2019 52 minutes ago, Stadt said: Can't believe he's hooked a load back on the back of a good 120 minutes Nothing more than credit where it's due. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorlestonFox Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 5 hours ago, MPH said: I don’t think anyone WANTS him to fail but many seem to think he’s been given plenty of opportunities that it’s time to replace. id actually send him on loan to villa or sheffield United for second half of the season under the premise he must be played if fit. Imagine the stick he'd get at Villa. Can't see that working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 amazing what some actual coaching will do, Brendan has clearly told him what he wants from him and helped him improve to achieve that, eventually the starts will come again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHawk Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 I think Rodgers has played a blinder here tbf. Left him out of the match day squad at the start of the season and I'm sure has been very clear about what he wants to see from him. Given him a few opportunities, and generally he's taking them. The first 11 as is ATM is doing so well but having impact players like demi and praet is a huge factor too. He needs to keep his head down, keep working hard and keep having an impact and he will keep getting better. But Rodgers man management so far seems to have put a rocket up his arse and long may it continue as we all know he has the ability, just needs to improve the application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OadbyBlue Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 if he has the character to accept being a "super sub" for now he could be an important player this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk exile Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 I like, many others, have been very critical of Gray. But has to be said I have definitely seen some very slight green shoots of improvement. Maybe, just maybe he will finally take the opportunity to fulfill his potential. However, I think his main value is (and will remain) as an impact player. He just isn't the same player when he starts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 His next start in the PL is crucial imo. If he fcks it, he's either super sub for the remainder of his duration or we straight sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 1 hour ago, GorlestonFox said: Imagine the stick he'd get at Villa. Can't see that working! we took Wes Morgan from Forest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinowe Soorie Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 It was a terrible pass to Vardy from Gray! Vardy did well to adjust his body, and finish with his weaker foot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorlestonFox Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 26 minutes ago, MPH said: we took Wes Morgan from Forest... But Wesley Morgan is a blue, he hates Forrest! 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 1 minute ago, GorlestonFox said: But Wesley Morgan is a blue, he hates Forrest! 👀 It's Westley and Forest 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorlestonFox Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 1 minute ago, MGLCFC said: It's Westley and Forest Sorry Wes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 The question is, would he rather be a bit part player in something special. Or a first team player in a relegation battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 He's so quick and direct. Great to release for 15mins or so against a tiring team. I think the issues are entirely in Demarai's head. Hopefully Brendan has tapped into his inner footballing genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 I thought we might have sold him in the Summer but at long last he's starting to show real promise. He's been excellent the last few games and having a real impact when he comes on. I think his he's finally understanding the game and B R deserves great credit for that. He's showing more for the Ball and searching for space while also covering back and helping out the defense. Plus his decision making is so much better. Last year he would have tried to shoot instead of passing to Vardy. Instead of just being back up he's becoming another first teamer that we just can't find a place for. That's a big improvement and long may it continue. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 8 minutes ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said: He's so quick and direct. Great to release for 15mins or so against a tiring team. I think the issues are entirely in Demarai's head. Hopefully Brendan has tapped into his inner footballing genius. ...definitely!!!! Brendan obviously asking him to look at the game differently. Scoring worldies is not what the game is about but for Gray that is however the way he views the game and his part in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachhere Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 2 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said: His next start in the PL is crucial imo. If he fcks it, he's either super sub for the remainder of his duration or we straight sell him This is the thing, I don't think he can cope with that type of pressure. He goes for too much rather than sticking to the basics. I really hope it works out for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 14 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...definitely!!!! Brendan obviously asking him to look at the game differently. Scoring worldies is not what the game is about but for Gray that is however the way he views the game and his part in it. his raw talent has never really been in question, more what he does with it. The coaching staff have obviously been working on his decision making and explaining to him when it is the right time to pass the ball or go for it himself. I have also noticed he seems more able to make his mind up and do it quickly these days whereas in the past he would dither, not sure what to do and either run into a blind alley or lose the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 2 hours ago, Kinowe Soorie said: It was a terrible pass to Vardy from Gray! Vardy did well to adjust his body, and finish with his weaker foot. Brendan called it sublime so each to their own.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 4 November 2019 Share Posted 4 November 2019 Said it not long ago but I felt this was his last last last last last... last chance. If Brendan couldn’t get a tune out of him then he needs to go, but he’s making an impact at last. Still took wrong options too many times against burton IMO, but it’s been the best I’ve seen of him for a long while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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