trabuch Posted 26 April 2020 Posted 26 April 2020 39 minutes ago, brucey said: Tests are starting to come in for the frontline workers, I think a couple hundred tests a week for footballers will be manageable if we manage to ramp up our testing capacity to somewhere near that 100k target. You can buy test now for £130 each. I think the premier league can afford that without taking tests off key workers.
Guest Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 20 hours ago, st albans fox said: they can’t - uefa has already indicated it wants the new season running from September. Because UEFA don't want to lose out on their competitions. They'll just have to wait like everyone else.
Tom12345 Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 Not sure why there needs to be a rush to resume playing. This season should continue when feasible and be played out in its entirety. This way, no club is unfairly treated. It would be harsh if Liverpool does not get to lift the EPL trophy and we do not get into the CL. Then shorten or change the format the next season to suit the circumstances: at least then all teams will be going into the season playing under a commonly agreed set of rules upfront.
st albans fox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 58 minutes ago, FIF said: Because UEFA don't want to lose out on their competitions. They'll just have to wait like everyone else. 42 minutes ago, Tom12345 said: Not sure why there needs to be a rush to resume playing. This season should continue when feasible and be played out in its entirety. This way, no club is unfairly treated. It would be harsh if Liverpool does not get to lift the EPL trophy and we do not get into the CL. Then shorten or change the format the next season to suit the circumstances: at least then all teams will be going into the season playing under a commonly agreed set of rules upfront. But uefa won’t wait - they have already stated that they want the european comps to begin in the autumn (more likely oct) and they want domestic leagues finished by August so they can plan accordingly. Germany and Italy have laid out plans to resume by end may/June and I’m sure Spain will follow. If we want to follow our own path then we must withdraw from next seasons european competitions....
st albans fox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 11 hours ago, tom27111 said: I think we've got our priorities wrong as they'll have to perform 50+ tests before every game if that's the case, yet some frontline workers can't get a test for love nor money. I'm missing football as much as anyone, but is it really necessary right now? They won’t start football until there is enough testing available and being done for everyone who needs it. That should easily be June. The clubs can invest in their own testing procedures anyway which won’t impact on the public.
TrentFox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 As an aside, anyone know when our newly laid pitch will be ready? Are we good to go in May in the unlikely event that there is an early resumption?
Silva Fox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 5 minutes ago, TrentFox said: As an aside, anyone know when our newly laid pitch will be ready? Are we good to go in May in the unlikely event that there is an early resumption? I understand the plan is to play at neutral grounds so it probably won't be needed until next season in any case.
Stevosevic Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 Clubs in Germany and Italy given the all clear to get back to training so I'm sure we're not far behind.
RowlattsFox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 There definitely seems to be a bit of momentum suggesting that this will get finished one way or another, rightly or wrongly. For the biggest leagues anyway, interesting to see how EFL handle it. The only thing I can see stopping it is an immediate second wave once lockdown measures are relaxed. I'm sure there will be players that refuse to risk their health, be away from their families if they're forced to all stay together for the duration and those abroad will have to return soon given the 14 day quarantine measures coming in.
Heathrow fox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 15 hours ago, NaijaFox said: UEFA has been doing that for decades with the Russian, Ukrainian, and Scandinavian leagues. My point exactly.They are part of the finely tuned calendar that has taken years to organise.You can’t just shift fixtures willynilly without having a knock on effect further down the line.It would cause chaos with the different associations.Which ones more important?Fifa UEFA or the different domestic leagues?Each one will claim it’s them.Money talks so the season finishes August latest.The tea lady will have to play if needs be.
5waller5 Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 1 hour ago, goody2028 said: FIFA have acted on Sir Claudio Ranieri's idea then!
st albans fox Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 1 hour ago, RowlattsFox said: There definitely seems to be a bit of momentum suggesting that this will get finished one way or another, rightly or wrongly. For the biggest leagues anyway, interesting to see how EFL handle it. The only thing I can see stopping it is an immediate second wave once lockdown measures are relaxed. I'm sure there will be players that refuse to risk their health, be away from their families if they're forced to all stay together for the duration and those abroad will have to return soon given the 14 day quarantine measures coming in. Yes, I could see a rush to get back before this kicks in although I guess they can’t introduce it before there is enough testing capacity or effective test/trace with daily new infections below a few hundred (has to be a good few weeks off).
Strokes Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 1 hour ago, goody2028 said: They are going to be like friendly matches aren’t they? I think we should err on the side of caution for rule changes like this, it’ll be another law suit waiting to happen for teams that get relegated.
dsr-burnley Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 On 26/04/2020 at 16:47, Super_horns said: Latest idea allegedly Not all teams at home and each game would need 300 people. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/26/premier-league-says-needs-just-300-people-per-match-reboot-season/#comment They could reduce that by half, easily. For example, the 300 includes scoreboard operators, ball boys, and people to set up the sponsors logos - none of which are needed. They can have hundreds of balls, the sponsors logos for TV can be done electronically, and if the players can't remember the score for themselves they will have to have the manager shout it out to them. Then there are about 100 journalists in there. That can be cut - one radio commentator broadcasting to all channels,.one TV commentator, no press at all. They can watch on TV as well. They've got 16 coaches each. That can be cut. They don't actually need 1.5 coaches per player. I reckon they could do without VAR and hawkeye as well - that saves just 6 people, but why not cut it to the bone. The fewere the better. The Premier League doesn't need three observers. And so on.
MrsJohnMurphy Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 On 26/04/2020 at 17:52, tom27111 said: And then spend 90 minutes in close proximity to everyone else Sorted!! Surprisingly bubble football is actually a thing...
The Fox Covert Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 League football behind closed doors could technically resume here according to the timetable proposed by the Germans with minimal risk of transmission of the coronavirus. Momentary contact between players on the pitch is unlikely to result in transmission. However while the UK is in full lockdown football behind closed doors is probably going to convey the wrong message to the public who are still being asked to only leave their home when necessary. The problem the government now has in considering a path out of lockdown is that they haven't got testing or contact tracing to anywhere near the same levels as countries which have had more success in combatting the virus such as Germany and South Korea. Until they have this they are effectively fighting in the dark in their efforts to build a strategy to gradually ease the lockdown. The Premier League and Football League are now pretty near the stage where they have to draw a line on when football can re-start, otherwise the delay will have a serious knock-on effect into next season. There are no international tournaments in 2021 so the FA could make a start by cancelling weekend internationals for the 2020-2021 season. This would enable the season to start at the beginning of September and not the second weekend in August.
tom27111 Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 3 minutes ago, The Fox Covert said: League football behind closed doors could technically resume here according to the timetable proposed by the Germans with minimal risk of transmission of the coronavirus. Momentary contact between players on the pitch is unlikely to result in transmission. However while the UK is in full lockdown football behind closed doors is probably going to convey the wrong message to the public who are still being asked to only leave their home when necessary. The problem the government now has in considering a path out of lockdown is that they haven't got testing or contact tracing to anywhere near the same levels as countries which have had more success in combatting the virus such as Germany and South Korea. Until they have this they are effectively fighting in the dark in their efforts to build a strategy to gradually ease the lockdown. The Premier League and Football League are now pretty near the stage where they have to draw a line on when football can re-start, otherwise the delay will have a serious knock-on effect into next season. There are no international tournaments in 2021 so the FA could make a start by cancelling weekend internationals for the 2020-2021 season. This would enable the season to start at the beginning of September and not the second weekend in August. Apart from the delayed Euro 2020
Jon the Hat Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 1 minute ago, tom27111 said: Apart from the delayed Euro 2020 Good point! I hear some clubs are starting to allow players into training grounds for individual fitnss work.
Bert Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 12 hours ago, Tom12345 said: Not sure why there needs to be a rush to resume playing. This season should continue when feasible and be played out in its entirety. This way, no club is unfairly treated. It would be harsh if Liverpool does not get to lift the EPL trophy and we do not get into the CL. Then shorten or change the format the next season to suit the circumstances: at least then all teams will be going into the season playing under a commonly agreed set of rules upfront. Money talks. Its all down to UEFA. They want the champions league sorted so that can start again. Which means the leagues have to start again, and for them to start again they need to finish first. But in time for them to start the European championships on time next summer.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 1 hour ago, MrsJohnMurphy said: Sorted!! Surprisingly bubble football is actually a thing... It's the ultimate PPE.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 27 April 2020 Posted 27 April 2020 3 hours ago, dsr-burnley said: They could reduce that by half, easily. For example, the 300 includes scoreboard operators, ball boys, and people to set up the sponsors logos - none of which are needed. They can have hundreds of balls, the sponsors logos for TV can be done electronically, and if the players can't remember the score for themselves they will have to have the manager shout it out to them. Then there are about 100 journalists in there. That can be cut - one radio commentator broadcasting to all channels,.one TV commentator, no press at all. They can watch on TV as well. They've got 16 coaches each. That can be cut. They don't actually need 1.5 coaches per player. I reckon they could do without VAR and hawkeye as well - that saves just 6 people, but why not cut it to the bone. The fewere the better. The Premier League doesn't need three observers. And so on. Well if Royal Mail can have over 450 people working at the same time in the Meridian mail centre, an area smaller than the KP, then let's get this sorted. Or maybe Royal Mail just don't care about their staff?
Ric Flair Posted 28 April 2020 Posted 28 April 2020 End the season, just don't void it. That's the real quiz.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 28 April 2020 Posted 28 April 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 09:22, Tom12345 said: Not sure why there needs to be a rush to resume playing. This season should continue when feasible and be played out in its entirety. This way, no club is unfairly treated. It would be harsh if Liverpool does not get to lift the EPL trophy and we do not get into the CL. Then shorten or change the format the next season to suit the circumstances: at least then all teams will be going into the season playing under a commonly agreed set of rules upfront. Although this in theory is the fairest and most sensible way of moving forward, the problem here is mainly with player contracts. There must be a few teams with a large number of players out of contract in June, and if the season is resumed after then it would be a nightmare trying to force some of these to continue playing with their old club for pay disputes/risk of injury/etc. Then it essentially becomes unfair again
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