League Suspended.

[Fox92]

3 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

If the league starts up again, it has to be finished, whenever that may be. Or it is cancelled with no promotion or relegation. You can't say we can't relegate teams as it is now but then in two weeks time say we can relegate the current standings. I saw Lee Bowyer made a point about Charlton currently in the championship, currently in the bottom 3 having dropped in for the first time this season just before the lockdown. I don't see how it's fair to relegate them when they would have had plenty of time to get back out. 

Of course you can't. In 2014 if this would have happened we'd have been relegated. It's not fair. A full season is played over 30+ games.

 

Look at Coventry. No ground, no money and were in League 2 last season. Robins has got them on the verge of promotion back to the Championship within a year. You can't just scrap all that. Clubs may never recover.

[Foxin_Mad]

9 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

If some one can come up with a formula that somehow relegates - Spurs, Arsenal and Aston Villa,  I would be happy with that.    

 

 

Using a combination of the serial bottler formula, multiplied by the big club mentality formula divided by the amount of success in the last 10 years should do it! 

Edited 13 May 2020 by Foxin_Mad

[Nod.E]

5 hours ago, FIF said:

There are a few here who still see Football supporters as a lower based lifeform.

 

btw Amiens have started legal proceedings in France against their relegation. I think they were 4 points off safety with 10 games to play. IMO French govt. and the French football league have messed this one up.

It's not so much that all football fans are lowlifes. It's more that the vast majority of lowlifes are football fans.

 

There is certainly an over index.

[purpleronnie]

1 hour ago, weller54 said:

Liverpool have 99.999% won the PL.. you wouldn't be suggesting a cancellation if this had happened in March 2016?

If the situation was the same I would.  You may be ok with being handed the title without actually winning it this way but it would render it meaningless to me, would you feel the same in march 2015?  We would be relegated that season and therefore not win the Premier League.  If you can't play out the entire season it should be voided.

[Corky]

4 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Of course you can't. In 2014 if this would have happened we'd have been relegated. It's not fair. A full season is played over 30+ games.

 

Look at Coventry. No ground, no money and were in League 2 last season. Robins has got them on the verge of promotion back to the Championship within a year. You can't just scrap all that. Clubs may never recover.

And, instead of crying about integrity and unfairness, have got on with the job of playing in difficult circumstances and galvanising them to succeed.

 

Why haven't any clubs come out and said "Ok, it's a shit situation, not what we want but we believe we've got enough to stay up?" They can't all be concerned that playing in a neutral venue for a while will totally derail an already poor season?

[Super_horns]

Well it seems in the end most teams were worried about losing money from home advertising hoardings and and the like ..

 

Really does show how money really is the king !

 

Norwich don't seem to have much faith in staying up so want  relegation scrapped altogether.

Edited 13 May 2020 by Super_horns

[Mike Oxlong]

From a defensive perspective social distancing won’t come as anything new to Ben Chilwell 

Edited 13 May 2020 by Mike Oxlong

[shailen]

I don't understand how the league can be cancelled this far into the season. The legal implications from those clubs that are fighting relegation and promotion would be massive. Who is going to refund those clubs who have invested heavily to get European football/avoid relegation/get promotion. It doesn't make any sense to scrap the season. 

 

Instead the league schedule can change, so that the current season finishes whenever it does and only following that does the new season start. 

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Super_horns said:

Well it seems in the end most teams were worried about losing money from home advertising hoardings and and the like ..

 

Really does show how money really is the king !

 

Norwich don't seem to have much faith in staying up so want  relegation scrapped altogether.

Surely more tosh .... if it’s your designated home game then the electronic hoardings can display the advertising for the home side ..... that’s the most nonsense argument thus far  ...... and the non electronic advertising won’t be visible for the cameras in any case 

[Super_horns]

Probably right but any excuse eh?

 

Was most of the top teams too - Arsenal/Chelsea/Spurs and Everton who came up with that.

[foxinsocks]

It wont be cancelled... the fa wont allow  it. If they dont play then it will be sorted on points per game.   That will see west ham relegated.   So what?

Why go to all the trouble and worry?  

Edited 13 May 2020 by foxinsocks

[st albans fox]

21 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

It wont be cancelled... the fa wont allow  it. If they dont play then it will be sorted on points per game.   That will see west ham relegated.   So what?

Why go to all the trouble and worry?  

It will ????

[Ric Flair]

Has the FA Cup been scrapped?

[bmt]

I think they should finish this season next year. Its a ridiculously difficult situation due to contracts and teams outside the Prem though

[Kasey Keller]

9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Has the FA Cup been scrapped?

Forgot all about that!

[FoyleFox]

They said after Monday's meeting that cancelled wasn't an option, it's finish or PPG.

 

No one seems to have mentioned the FA Cup, I'd also forgotten about that. 

[dsr-burnley]

8 minutes ago, FoyleFox said:

They said after Monday's meeting that cancelled wasn't an option, it's finish or PPG.

 

No one seems to have mentioned the FA Cup, I'd also forgotten about that. 

The FA Cup is a lot less urgent.  They can finish that off anytime next season if they need to.  Rough on the players who have left, and they will have to ease back on the cuptied rules, but not too much urgent depends on the result.  (If someone wins it who didn't otherwise qualify for Europe, they'll have to have a place reserved for them next year instead.)

 

Or they can have a Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday week at the end of the season to round it all off.

 

I doubt they will try and fit it in between league games.  It's going to be a fairly crowded calendar as it is.

[NaijaFox]

11 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Agree...that's the key thing here at what all the evidence suggests.

 

The vulnerable should be protected, sadly that means we can not sensibly see elderly and long term ill members of our family as we may wish to, for the foreseeable future.

 

Allowing the mixing of younger healthy people, stopping work and ways of life in my view is rather counter productive and much more damaging to that group, possibly losing some aspects and quality of life forever as a result.

 

We are in a situation now due to misinformation that young healthy people are running scared when there is little evidence to suggest that age group should be.

 

The shield around the vulnerable must continue for quite some time to protect them. We should do whatever is necessary to protect and provide for that group. We can not all live like that indefinitely, it's too costly both socially and economically.

 

Bringing football back as soon as possible is the right thing to do. It's as safe now for these young men as it has ever been or will ever be with all the tests and precautions in place.

 

I wonder globally how many professional athletes have caught the virus and died? Obviously any players with preexisting concerns need to be shielded. 

 

At the end of the day if players dont go back, they really should all be on the furlough scheme or equivalent until the 2021/22 season possibly starts - that's the earliest potential post vaccine. Nothing else with no football results in the financial viability of clubs.

 

 

You mean from the comfort of their homes on lockdown? 

 

One can only take comfort in the presumption that the folks who actually have to make (substantively life, death and long-term respiratory disability) decisions are hopefully not as cavalier about the health and safety as others as you apparently are.

[Nicolo Barella]

9 hours ago, st albans fox said:

It will ????

I think PPG relegates West Ham if they choose the option that weights home performances and compares them to remaining home games. I've forgotten the maths exactly but basically yes, West Ham, Villa and Norwich would go down, Bournemouth would survive by the skin of their teeth.

[Chocolate Teapot]

9 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Has the FA Cup been scrapped?

The fa Cup without fans would be a complete waste of time. Lifting a trophy at an empty Wembley? No thanks.

[st albans fox]

26 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said:

I think PPG relegates West Ham if they choose the option that weights home performances and compares them to remaining home games. I've forgotten the maths exactly but basically yes, West Ham, Villa and Norwich would go down, Bournemouth would survive by the skin of their teeth.

Ppg is clear enough to take account of games in hand  - no way in a million pandemics will they choose a ‘weighted system’.  

[Guest]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Ppg is clear enough to take account of games in hand  - no way in a million pandemics will they choose a ‘weighted system’.  

Bournemouth disagree with you. 

[ozleicester]

On 13/05/2020 at 00:21, fuchsntf said:

I'd go through the old  Filbert street site  catacoumbes and tunnels....

I'd go through the old  Filbert street site  shopping trolleys and sofa's....

[Foxin_Mad]

7 hours ago, NaijaFox said:

You mean from the comfort of their homes on lockdown? 

 

One can only take comfort in the presumption that the folks who actually have to make (substantively life, death and long-term respiratory disability) decisions are hopefully not as cavalier about the health and safety as others as you apparently are.

Good lord, look at the statistics. Less than 1% of those under 45 who got infected died.

 

We do not actually know how long this has been around, the peak was only a few weeks after the lock down so it's likely a lot more people had it and recovered. How are the sports people of Sweden doing? No lockdown there are they all dead? 

 

I hope the specialists making the decisions aren't as blinded by fear as you are, else we will all  be locked until 2022, and  by the time we come out life will be so cataclysmically screwed it wont be worth living anyway! 

 

It's pretty much guaranteed that more young people will die because of this lockdown. Do you think footballers will survive when their clubs go bankrupt and they dont get paid anymore, that will really set them on a downward spiral.

[StanSP]

9 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Has the FA Cup been scrapped?

Points per game mate.