Man City CAS

[surrifox]

This is mid July - my quiet time when I can relax , free from the inevitable torment and anguish that football inevitably brings - it would be great if it could just feck off and give me a break 

[Jace]

1 hour ago, jonthefox said:

There wasn't much anger on here when we received a modest fine for breaking FFP . 

Good point, if any team in English football has done a similar thing to Man City regarding sponsorship it was us in the Championship with King Power (on a much smaller scale of course)

[martyn]

I know it's semantics, but we weren't ever found guilty of breaching FFP.

[Sir Shep]

All I’ve got to say on the matter! 

[Qwerty]

9 minutes ago, surrifox said:

This is mid July - my quiet time when I can relax , free from the inevitable torment and anguish that football inevitably brings - it would be great if it could just feck off and give me a break 

Absolutely!  And it's possible that it may get dragged out for weeks and weeks, because we could potentially end up waiting for the outcome of Europa and the FA Cup before we know if we've got European football next year.  

[AndyK]

Manchester City fan here, in peace.

 

Obviously pleased with the outcome at CAS. It couldn't really have had a reduced ban as a final outcome - if it could be proved that rules were broken, then a 2-year ban was fair. For not proven, a ban doesn't seem supportable. It looks like UEFA went for broke and went high, which inevitably sent the matter to CAS. It seems very lax of them to rely on something that is time-barred - that just seems stupid behaviour.

 

The UEFA financial body man LeTerme has made some interesting decisions, not least over PSG, so I assume he'll be gone fairly shortly. 

 

Now could you please make sure you finish in the top 4, preferably with Chelsea although that looks trickier.

[Innovindil]

Joke of a decision, but not the least bit surprised, which should say everything that needs saying. 

[Vestan Pance]

"There's only one £ity"

[CosbehFox]

50 minutes ago, DerbyshireFox said:

 

Breathtakingly arrogant. Our faults lie firmly at our door, but for the outcome to be as it is, whilst not surprising, just proves the playing field is never going to be level

Yep, all multi millionaires funded by a ethnically ****ed nation - bravo lads, ****ing bravo

[Wymsey]

Used to like Guardiola a few years back, but it seems the money he has at his disposal - the more, as others have said, the more arrogant he's become along with an annoying 'holier than thou' attitude.

 

Wouldn't be missed if he left English football, now.

[FoxinNotts]

Not surprised by the outcome. Nor am I bothered following last nights debacle.

let’s concentrate on how many points we need to get to secure a Europa League spot. 

 

[Blue ROI]

2 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Used to like Guardiola a few years back, but it seems the money he has at his disposal - the more, as others have said, the more arrogant he's become along with an annoying 'holier than thou' attitude.

 

Wouldn't be missed if he left English football, now.

How smart would he be if he managed a club that didn't have billions of pounds?

[FOXSE]

39 minutes ago, Jace said:

Good point, if any team in English football has done a similar thing to Man City regarding sponsorship it was us in the Championship with King Power (on a much smaller scale of course)

The scale is they key point. Was our sponsorship by king power above and beyond the commercial value of the sponsorship? No.

[Deeg67]

3 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

How smart would he be if he managed a club that didn't have billions of pounds?

Believe me, he'd still be pretty fuching smart.  He's a brilliant manager, don't kid yourself.

[deanolegend1989]

Football is dead. There is no point even watching anymore.
There is nothing to fight for, the whole footballing powers want the same sh*t each year so there’s no point of really watching when it’s all capped to what any club can really achieve.

The games a farce. You can’t tackle any more, you can’t be physical. Diving is rewarded, time wasting is rewarded, breaking financial rules is rewarded.

Its not football anymore, it’s a very bad business product and that’s ruined a once great game.

I honestly believe soon, at the start of each season, you could pick every position between 1 and 20 and know already due to finances.

In fact in 20-30 years I believe football will be dead completely and it will be a different game.

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

We sold ‘international rights’ to some ghost company registered to a warehouse unit in Sheffield. Was just the right amount to not be punished for overspending. 
 

Not overly dissimilar to the stadium selling which has occurred at Derby and Villa

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/21/leicester-settlement-football-league-ffp

 

Leicester City have agreed to pay the Football League £3.1m to settle the league’s long-running claim that the club breached financial fair play rules when they made a £21m loss in their 2013-14 season. Leicester won promotion from the Championship that season after their owner, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, who owns Thailand’s duty-free company King Power, had invested more than £100m since his 2010 takeover, and subsequently they won their unlikely Premier League title in 2016.

The Football League’s then-new FFP rules, aimed at improving its clubs’ financial sustainability particularly in the Championship, set out sanctions including heavy fines for clubs which made losses greater than £8m in 2013-14. Leicester, spending heavily on players’ wages, made a £34m loss in 2012-13, then reduced it to £21m, partly due to receiving a large increase in income from a marketing deal signed with Trestellar Limited, a company run by the son of the former Premier League chairman Sir Dave Richards. That deal, under which Trestellar sold the sponsorship of the club’s shirt and stadium back to King Power, is understood to have been under investigation by the EFL when considering whether Leicester breached the rules.

Leicester argued they had not breached the rules, which make allowances for expenditure on youth development, a stadium and other infrastructure, and that the Trestellar deal had been concluded following “an extensive tender process” to find the best partner to market the club worldwide. The club then stated it was not only disputing any findings against its own losses, but “the legality” of the FFP rules themselves. Queens Park Rangers, who were also found to have made excessive losses, challenged the rules’ legality but an arbitration panel found for the EFL in October The EFL and Leicester announced the £3.1m settlement in identical statements, which gave little detail about the issues considered. The statements made clear that: “In reaching the settlement, the EFL acknowledges that the club did not make any deliberate attempt to infringe the rules or to deceive and that the dispute arose out of genuine differences of interpretation of the rules between the parties.”

 

 

Edited 13 July 2020 by hackneyfox

[Royston.]

Would be furious about this but i kind of feel numb/dont care anymore after our fairy tale demise.

[Bryn]

I don't care about this. I'd find it hard to celebrate us getting into the CL this way.

[Tom12345]

EUR 10 m fine. Not enough to even buy Bennett from Wolves.

[yorkie1999]

8 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

EUR 10 m fine. Not enough to even buy Bennett from Wolves.

Who?

[foxestalkisfullofidiots]

This is a kick in the teeth for UEFA, watch most VAR decisions go against them in the champions league next season

[brucey]

9 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

EUR 10 m fine. Not enough to even buy Bennett from Wolves.

Hasn't 5m been quoted for him? 

Wonder what the number of games to trigger the buy clause is, as he'll probably have to play all 3 games left due to Cags hotheadedness. 

[Ely fox]

Money Talks !!

[Leicester_Loyal]

 

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, surrifox said:

Yes, yes I get that . My point is that whilst the game itself is irredeemably mired in corruption and graft the players aren’t directly responsible . I would rather watch the top players playing at the higher levels  than have their careers stunted 

..just to be sure!!!

You would rather see Saracens, a club that has flouted the "Cap" and was warned, continued to pay their players by setting up businesses in the individuals name, who were fined again and had points deducted, and continued to flout the rules leaving the only avenue to reign them in by deducting sufficient points to trigger relegation, playing in the Heineken Cup Final having been assembled by illegal means as against an Exeter team playing by the rules governing the sport, taking their rightful place in the competition.

  The only reason Saracens could get in the Heineken was to finish in the top 4 of their domestic league, and if by the means of cheating, by the club, you are happy, to endorse this ethos, then you really need to reevaluate your ethics.