Injuries at the club.

[Corky]

10 minutes ago, HoChiMinhFOX said:

Not to be a pessimist, but would he be stretchered off if it was grade 1?

They may've learnt from the Ricardo and Justin injuries and not allowed him to put weight on it. Get him off asap.

 

If it is only six weeks then that's a much better outcome than I feared.

[Glorious Leicester Fan]

11 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Whatever stick you want to beat Rodgers with, we can't beat him with injuries. 

 

We've just had catastrophically bad luck. If Ole is the flukiest manager in the league and United the luckiest team, we're a contender for the least fortunate. 

 

The injuries to Ricardo, Barnes, Justin, even Madders really, they're just freak. Could happen to anyone at any time. Not really about over use, you could argue we've managed the return of a few poorly due to desperation but the big major ones are out of anyone's hands. 

 

How can you look at Barnes or Justin's injuries and blame the manager? What's he meant to do different to stop them landing awkwardly? 

To a large extent I agree. However, our over reliance on Vardy, Barnes and Maddison and the lack of RW options do make injuries to these players more likely. 

[The whole world smiles]

2 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

As horrible as that sounds, its better than what i was expecting (if of course he is back in 6ish weeks) 

 

Get well soon Harvey, missing you already. 

Lol me too after justin and Ricardo as soo as the get the orange cast out I instantly think 9 months to a year. 

[StanSP]

Positive is that its not the whole season. 

 

Negative is that he was having the best season, like Justin

 

[Tielemans63]

13 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Whatever stick you want to beat Rodgers with, we can't beat him with injuries. 

 

We've just had catastrophically bad luck. If Ole is the flukiest manager in the league and United the luckiest team, we're a contender for the least fortunate. 

 

The injuries to Ricardo, Barnes, Justin, even Madders really, they're just freak. Could happen to anyone at any time. Not really about over use, you could argue we've managed the return of a few poorly due to desperation but the big major ones are out of anyone's hands. 

 

How can you look at Barnes or Justin's injuries and blame the manager? What's he meant to do different to stop them landing awkwardly? 

Saved me the job. Spot on. Blaming Brendan is madness.

[Ric Flair]

6 weeks isn't that bad, it's crap for us chasing top 4 but for his long term career that's really pleasing.

[ian__marshall]

Think there's an issue with the player conditioning currently. We seem to be experiencing a lot of the same/similar types of injuries many of which coincide with Rodgers appointment.

 

The pandemic and sheer volume of games has clearly played its part but in seems like we've failed to use squad rotation to manage the load effectively and instead been forced into using the squad because players have broken down. 

[The whole world smiles]

Just now, StanSP said:

Positive is that its not the whole season. 

 

Negative is that he was having the best season, like Justin

 

Another positive is there is a two week international break so in theory it's 4 Premier league weeks

[jmono84]

Said he’s been carrying it for a few weeks

[Deeg67]

“At least” six weeks.  That’s first part is not incidental.  Depends on what they find when they go in there, could easily be longer.  Not pessimism, just reality.

[martyn]

19 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Whatever stick you want to beat Rodgers with, we can't beat him with injuries. 

 

We've just had catastrophically bad luck. If Ole is the flukiest manager in the league and United the luckiest team, we're a contender for the least fortunate. 

 

The injuries to Ricardo, Barnes, Justin, even Madders really, they're just freak. Could happen to anyone at any time. Not really about over use, you could argue we've managed the return of a few poorly due to desperation but the big major ones are out of anyone's hands. 

 

How can you look at Barnes or Justin's injuries and blame the manager? What's he meant to do different to stop them landing awkwardly? 

Muscle fatigue to thighs and hamstrings can make other types of injuries (e.g knee soft tissue) more likely. 

 

Of course there is an element of bad luck but to universally dismiss as being all down to luck isn't right. 

 

Managing player workload, intensity of training, failing to reinforce the squad and luck all play a part.

 

How much of the above can be levied as "blame" on Rodgers himself is another debate.

 

 

Edited 28 February 2021 by martyn

[Corky]

So, what are we looking at currently?

 

Fofana- this week?

Perez- must be soon

Maddison- 3 weeks

Praet- early April

Barnes- six weeks

[Ian Nacho]

I take full responsibility for the Barnes injury as I transferred him into my dream team this week. 

[peach0000]

Just now, Corky said:

So, what are we looking at currently?

 

Fofana- this week?

Perez- must be soon

Maddison- 3 weeks

Praet- early April

Barnes- six weeks

Fofana is big if Evans is out. Amartey is fine but wouldn't want to rely on him too long.

[Ian Nacho]

I’ve never known a season like it. Barring Schmeichel and Tielemans every single one of our best XI has been injured this season. 

[CosbehFox]

2 minutes ago, jmono84 said:

Said he’s been carrying it for a few weeks

Was told this and hinted in the Slavia thread.... @Corky picked it up 

[chapero82]

So Harvey had issues already with the knee going into the game wtf 🤬 

[majaco]

Just now, peach0000 said:

Fofana is big if Evans is out. Amartey is fine but wouldn't want to rely on him too long.

I think Amartey would be fine.  But it would leave us with Fuchs or Ndidi as centre back cover

[davieG]

Those saying we messed up not strengthening the squad in January have no idea who we tried to sign and you can only sign players if their club will let them leave, if the player wants to come, if we're not being ripped off with the price or if they are contract free which usually means their probably not that good.

 

It can almost be out of the clubs hands.

[deep blue]

30 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

It’s only looks a bad decision because of the injuries, captain hindsight. 

We had a succession of injuries before January, occurring regularly, as did most clubs, so it was hardly difficult to predict that it would continue after Jan.

[JamesWelshFox]

Everyone team has suffered this season. Top footballers are like and other elite sports person, they are supremely fit but it is always a fine line between being at the top of your physical ability and being injured.

 

When you have the sort of congested season we have this year there were going to be more injuries, and it is hardest on teams who do not have the depth of quality in their squad to cope with losing starters. We have coped better than most to this point but we have reached our limit now.

 

Injuries all season have meant that we haven't been able to rotate like we might have done and it will probably cost Maddison, Barnes and Justin a space in the England squad, really tough on them. 

 

Sadly, what should have happened is at the outset the money men should have agreed to some form of truncated season with less games, but they were too worried about the money to worry about the players. 

 

Maybe it is time to consider whether our top 2 divisions ought to be just 16 or 18 teams in size, and restructure below that level to help clubs with the financial tresses they ae all experiencing.

[Hammo]

3 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

I’ve never known a season like it. Barring Schmeichel and Tielemans every single one of our best XI has been injured this season. 

It’s been unreal - just hope you haven’t jinxed those two.

[ian__marshall]

16 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Whatever stick you want to beat Rodgers with, we can't beat him with injuries. 

 

We've just had catastrophically bad luck. If Ole is the flukiest manager in the league and United the luckiest team, we're a contender for the least fortunate. 

 

The injuries to Ricardo, Barnes, Justin, even Madders really, they're just freak. Could happen to anyone at any time. Not really about over use, you could argue we've managed the return of a few poorly due to desperation but the big major ones are out of anyone's hands. 

 

How can you look at Barnes or Justin's injuries and blame the manager? What's he meant to do different to stop them landing awkwardly? 

There's definitely a degree of luck no doubt, but there's also an argument that some of these injuries may be down to poor conditioning, which the management team and backroom staff are responsible for. If joint stability for instance isn't given the consideration that's required you'll inevitably see player's experiencing these types of injuries frequently. 

[trabuch]

If it is cartilage for Barnes it's not as bad as it might have been.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Remember everyone, "it's just one of those things, it's no one's fault, we can't do anything to prevent it".