The whole world smiles Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 I'm confused at the hostility towards this transfer he was very good every time I watched Fulham last season (admittedly not loads) . His numbers are good for a relegation side 4 goals and 4 assists. For context when we were fighting for relegation in 14/15 mahrez managed 4 goals and 3 assists. I know people wanted a sexy Leon Bailey type signing but Fofanas leg break put pay to that. This late in the window for a loan with an option to buy is good business. The only issue for me is he's right footed but I'm sure Rodgers has a plan. 3
brucey Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 26 minutes ago, jeffschlupp said: Schmeichel/Ward/Jakupovic Ricardo/Castagne Evans/Vestergaard Soyuncu/Amartey Justin/Bertrand/Thomas Ndidi/Mendy Tielemans/Soumare Perez/Albrighton Maddison/Dewsbury-Hall Barnes/Lookman Vardy/Daka/Iheanacho It'll do. Still one of that lot has to miss out on the Europa League, mind. Doesn't Thomas get a free pass due to his age?
Popular Post MrsJohnMurphy Posted 30 August 2021 Popular Post Posted 30 August 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, enmac said: If that video was of some unknown from the depths of the French leagues we'd all be wetting ourselves Some lovely left footed crosses and passes too Edited 30 August 2021 by MrsJohnMurphy 10
turlo Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 16 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Mixed feelings about this. When Walsh and Rangnick both rate the same player, it’s likely he has some quality. And he has shown in glimpses some of his clear potential. And we know Rodgers likes to work with young, skilful, pacy British players with something to prove and he has a strong record of development. But if we have been influenced by his performance against us, that is concerning as more often than not, it doesn’t work out - for every Ulloa, you at least have a Perez. Both paid sizeable fee's for him as well, so obviously saw a lot in him at the time. If this goes through we have to hope Rodgers can bring out some of that potential and he'll turn out to be an improvement on what we currently have. 1
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 6 minutes ago, mozartfox said: But what has our 'scouting' teams been doing all these months? Surely they have a list of potentials to pass to coaching and recruitment. Ric Flair needs to appointed to head of scouting. Scouting players is the easy bit. Getting deals over the line is the hard part. 1
OadbyBlue Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 Cons: Not a proven goal scoring right winger Pros: Cover for Barnes Can play on the right Looked good in a poor side last season Loan with a buy option leaves funds in the tank and can kickstart our window next season if he impresses 2
Guest Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Scouting players is the easy bit. Getting deals over the line is the hard part. Incorrect - we are massive. We find a player we like and he turns up the next day for the exact amount we want to pay. The player, his agent and the selling club all have no say in the matter, and even if they did they would simply bow in deference. 2
Gerard Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 1 hour ago, Babylon said: We had the same with Gray when he went to Germany and played 1.5 good games. Then did the square root of fook all for a year. Gray is one of those rare players whose perception is better than his actual ability. Every time we had a new manager he would put "our bright young talent" straight back in the side until about a month later he'd had enough of him. It speaks volumes that Gray could never break into this side after Mahrez left despite having the likes of Albrighton, Ghezzal, Diabate and Perez to compete with for a place. Gray must have been pissed off when Barnes came back from loan and quickly overtook him as he became the player we expected Gray to become. Gray's had a great start at Everton but i fully expect him to revert to type. Lookman is a much better player than Gray but is it too much to expect we get Lookman and Neres here tomorrow? Lookman is predominately a LW and there is no real alternative to Barnes. 1
An Sionnach Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Scouting players is the easy bit. Getting deals over the line is the hard part. Its been reliably reported that Lookman will be 50k a week. This underlines how much even run of the mill players get paid these days. We can pay that of course but if it had been Berardi it would have been more than double that.
Popular Post The_77 Posted 30 August 2021 Popular Post Posted 30 August 2021 Lookman can carry the ball up the pitch better than most, if not all, of our current options. He also has a decent left foot. OK, his end product and his decision making need help, but we have scouted him for a while and Red Bull’s scouts know what they’re doing, so I’m going to stay positive. I just might be a little let down that Lookman is the one after we were linked to a ridiculous Brazilian…but that’ll pass (like it does after every window). 6
filbertway Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 Lovely, were signing someone to give Barnes competition. This and a right winger and I'll be very happy
sacreblueits442 Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 22 minutes ago, urban fox said: When we had Mahrez, Simpson sat and we had Albrighton playing from deeper on left with Fuchs overlapping. Now we have Barnes on the left the situation is the same but reversed. You cannot have two wingers simply bombing forwards all the time. Hence why i have felt for along time that whilst FT wants a RW, BR does not. We have a talented LW and RBs who will bomb forward with pace and provide that width on the right with a RM who will provide cover. As Barnes is our most dynamic wide forward and we we have good RBs it makes sense that we look for cover for Barnes rather than an out and out RW. Lookman may seem an underwhelming signing, but that is simply because he is not what many have gotten themselves into a frenzy over. He is a decent player who could do well for us if given the chance. Like them or not we have cover for the right side of midfield but nothing on the left (unless Albrighton shifts over, but then that leaves us short on the right) so in some ways this makes sense as when Barnes got injured we were forced to completely change shape. ...doesn't that makes us predictable, nullify Barnes and the games is already won!!! We just do not have the calibre of players to wide to make us dynamic, the inability to counter when Barnes was out was a big factor and it made the team weak. I suspect 4-2-3-1 is Rodgers prefered shape and he is using his available personnel to effect it but 4-3-3 looks a more balanced formation bar the one position that we need to fill, to complete the jigsaw
tom27111 Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 Another one that'll be off to the African Cup of Nations in January. I'm underwhelmed that we're signing a 23 year old journeyman. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Phil Bowman Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 14 minutes ago, MrLuke said: I assume that’s the 10 mins before kick-off. He won’t even get that if he turns up with a fashionable backpack… 1
Vindaloo FOX Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 4 minutes ago, filbertway said: Lovely, were signing someone to give Barnes competition. This and a right winger and I'll be very happy He is the right winger 🤣 1
turlo Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 3 minutes ago, tom27111 said: Another one that'll be off to the African Cup of Nations in January. I'm underwhelmed that we're signing a 23 year old journeyman. Happy to be proven wrong though. Has been called up for any of the Nigerian squads yet? Didn't realise he'd changed allegiance to them
FLAN Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 5 minutes ago, tom27111 said: Another one that'll be off to the African Cup of Nations in January. I'm underwhelmed that we're signing a 23 year old journeyman. Happy to be proven wrong though. Suppose Everton fans thought the same about Gray* *still not convinced he won’t revert to type by Xmas tbf
moore_94 Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 7 minutes ago, tom27111 said: Another one that'll be off to the African Cup of Nations in January. I'm underwhelmed that we're signing a 23 year old journeyman. Happy to be proven wrong though. Yet to be called up by Nigeria so not an issue at the moment 1
The_77 Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 1 minute ago, moore_94 said: Yet to be called up by Nigeria so not an issue at the moment He’s been working on getting clearance this year.
Gerard Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said: A 23 year old ex under 21 on circa 55k a week, but it's absolutely mental choudhury is on slightly more than that 🤣 Leipzig bought Lookman for £16.2m, what salary would you think he'd be on? Choudhury has came through the academy. Academy players are notoriously poorer paid because they don't have bargaining leverage unless they're established first team players. When Choudhury signed his last contract he'd played 17 PL over two seasons mainly as sub. He was also probably on a few thousand a week so was in no position to demand £60k a week. You can't compare Lookman's leverage to Choudhury's. If the club really did pay a squad player who came through the academy 60k a week then someone needs sacking. More likely he's on about 30k a week. 2
DezFox Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 If we get him and a right winger I will be very happy. If we get him alone than it’s a Joke, utterly bizarre. It’s just a signing of that shows Rodgers arrogance. Does my head in. 1
Bluetintedspecs Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tielemans63 said: Like going to a nightclub and ending up pulling your own mum I genuinely think that would be an issue you and only you need to deal with! Edited 30 August 2021 by Bluetintedspecs
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 (edited) Starting to think maybe (just maybe mind) we should have rinsed Arsenal for Maddison, which might have allowed us to get a couple of players in that were higher up the list of options. Feel free to disagree. Edited 30 August 2021 by SouthStandUpperTier
MPH Posted 30 August 2021 Posted 30 August 2021 He’s not the messiah but I think he’ll put in some shifts and come out of the season with respect from our fans. bit like when we signed Nathan Dyer. He’ll get absolutely taken out scoring a goal and he’ll earn our respect 2
Popular Post kingfox Posted 30 August 2021 Popular Post Posted 30 August 2021 As a back-up for Barnes, he’s a very decent option to have, I’m in full agreement with those that say he looked good in a poor Fulham side last season. All his goal/assist contributions though, came from when he played on the left. Everton tried him on the RW, ended up selling him. Leipzig have tried him on the RW, they keep getting shut of him. A starting RW is the missing piece of our jigsaw, yet it doesn’t look like we’re going to rectify it. Looks like Rodgers is more than happy to stick with Perez, when we know full well that he’ll continue to contribute poorly and get subbed on 60 minutes. Failing to get a starting RW could be the difference of whether we make top six. 7 3
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