The VAR thread

[Unabomber]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

You mean like spurs disallowed goal at our place ......

Tbf that was class VAR at its finest 

Edited 9 November 2019 by Unabomber

[ozleicester]

Soyuncu was mugged

 

WHAT IS THE FVCKING POINT?

[Suzie the Fox]

Just get in the BIN !!! 

 

I'm done now with it... 

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

What happened to cags

[Jonaldinho]

Whats the ****ing point of it if stuff like that is ignored. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

The wisdom of Michael Owen 

 

"We've got more chance of understanding Brexit." When asked about VAR and Gendouzi on Soyuncu.

[Izzy]

VAR can kiss my swingers then get in the bin.

Had enough of it now.

Back to how it was before please 

[Bourbon Fox]

21 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The wisdom of Michael Owen 

 

"We've got more chance of understanding Brexit." When asked about VAR and Gendouzi on Soyuncu.

He looks an awful lot like Jamie Redknapp these days, doesn't he? 

[Facecloth]

Accrington Stanley 0-2 Crewe Alexandra - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50290257

 

Absolute madness when we have goo.......decen......averag........qualifi........well referees sat in a room not making a decision or drawing lines to spot a nose hair offside. They'd be better served sat in rooms dotted round the country to cover something like this 

[Silva Fox]

May as well scrap it - no consistency and refs not being allowed to view the pitch-side monitors is an absolute joke.

[cropstonfox]

Another level of incompetence and inconsistency to discuss. 

[lcfc81]

To be fair, VAR was sold as something that was going to make decision making consistent. What has become clear is that most decisions in football are subjective. The way forward imo is either,

1) It is used only for decisions that are 100% factula. (Eg. Offsides even if it is 1mm).

2) is accepted for subjective decisions based on the assumption some decisions, whilst subjective are better considered under slow motion review.

I have come to terms with the fact that an element of subjectivity will remain in VAR decision making now and am much happier with it as a call consequence. 

[TheUltimateWinner]

All VAR has done is expose how shite the refs are in this country. 

Edited 9 November 2019 by TheUltimateWinner

[Farrington fox]

If they can’t adapt and iron out the problems this season it should be scrapped for next. 

[HybridFox]

Thought we had replays on the screen the last time. Today there was back to nothing. Whole thing is BS

[ARM1968]

VAR will only improve when they stop using eunuchs to review the decisions. Indeed, once they remove the current referee element from the process altogether. There are enough retired refs with excellent track records who could do the job without worrying about shafting a colleague. 

[Arkie Bennett]

5 minutes ago, lcfc81 said:

To be fair, VAR was sold as something that was going to make decision making consistent. What has become clear is that most decisions in football are subjective. The way forward imo is either,

1) It is used only for decisions that are 100% factula. (Eg. Offsides even if it is 1mm).

2) is accepted for subjective decisions based on the assumption some decisions, whilst subjective are better considered under slow motion review.

I have come to terms with the fact that an element of subjectivity will remain in VAR decision making now and am much happier with it as a call consequence. 

Indeed, the shift away from the simple offside rule to the "interfering with play" variations have made the decisions more subjective. VAR tries to make these type of decisions somehow more scientific, which is incongruous. Besides, if offsides are being judged to the millimetre, I'm not convinced it can freeze the frame at the precise millisecond when the ball is played. It needs the same precision throughout. In its current form it is flawed.

[Ian Nacho]

I don't know why they don't use the clear and obvious narrative for offsides. Just look at a still image and make a decison based on that, forget all the sodding lines and that. If it's very tight just go with the on field decision. Literally not one fan wants this sh*t.

[Aus Fox]

Basically if you need to draw a line across the screen to see who has longer toe nails, the players are level.

[Super_horns]

Been Spurs best player this season I think ?!

 

A decision isn't clear and obvious if it take 4 minutes to decide .

 

[StanSP]

I can't get my head around this.

The blue line is level with his knee. But his head it beyond the blue line and the red line by a fraction. Yet the red line is where the Sheff Utd player is supposedly standing.

 

Is it just some kind of weird perception from that sole angle they show because it isn't directly in line?

[UniFox21]

17 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I can't get my head around this.

The blue line is level with his knee. But his head it beyond the blue line and the red line by a fraction. Yet the red line is where the Sheff Utd player is supposedly standing.

 

Is it just some kind of weird perception from that sole angle they show because it isn't directly in line?

Wasn't sure if it was the camera angle that made it seem that his head is further over maybe? But still that's an incredibly tight decision.

 

 

[WigstonWanderer]

This has got to be the worst implementation of VAR anywhere in the world, in any competition. So inconsistent. The VAR office should be manned by an independent set of ex refs, or possibly international officials to stamp out any hint of bias and restore a sense of fairness.

 

How could they possibly have looked at the Soyuncu incident and not ruled it an infringement? The only possible explanation is that perhaps they saw something else, offside or something. It would help if there was a word of explanation on the big screen.

 

 

Edited 10 November 2019 by WigstonWanderer

[Jonezy]

How far back do you go to look for offside after a goal? The Sheffield Utd disallowed goal was so tight, but the offside player cross it straight into the head of a defender, who then clear it straight to a Sheffield Utd player, who start the move for the goal. When the defender clears it, shouldn't it be a new situation? 

 

The rules needs to be clear and the refs should explain their decisions. VAR in PL is in a weird place right now, but the inconsistent ref decisions doesn't help. 

[MadKaw]

Nah, the worse VAR is in Aus and we've had 2 years to try and get right. We don't even have goal line technology.

 Have a look at this.. 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-western-united-vs-western-sydney-wanderers-var-controversy-var-denies-scott-mcdonald-goal-news-video-highlights/news-story/87fa1af33c2be7b174bc6a3c2ad28d78