hejammy Posted 8 July 2020 Share Posted 8 July 2020 8 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: There's is actually very little between them this season in this regard. Barnes' Goals and Assists per 90 minutes = 0.67 Gray's Goals and Assists per 90 minutes = 0.66 Both have been more productive than Perez (0.56 per 90) and Albrighton (0.35 per 90). This is the point! For some fans Gray is the worst player we have ever seen and Barnes is the messiah, even though this stat suggests there isn't much between them. If anyone can see what the stats are since restart that could be interesting. One of those really that Dimi isn't a "fans" favourite and Barnes is the local lad who can "do no wrong". It's a bit unfair and unjust really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 8 July 2020 Share Posted 8 July 2020 Barnes is a lot earlier into his time here than Gray is and without double checking I'm sure he's not far off Gray's total for goals and assists so I think that's why Barnes gets a bit more leeway - granted Barnes was full of awful errors yesterday. Gray will forever frustrate I feel but he actually does look alright off the bench every now and then so I'd just keep him there really, harsh as it may seem, because I cannot remember his last good performance from the start. That was a really good ball for Vardy yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightforever Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 (edited) Gray needs a loan I think his decison making is bad due to confidence issues. I think once he gets his confidence back by playing for a championship team where he can score for fun he will be able to make the step up. He has the ability if he didn't we would have sold him when bournemouth came in for him like we did with schlupp. Edited 9 July 2020 by Fightforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 3 hours ago, Fightforever said: Gray needs a loan I think his decison making is bad due to confidence issues. I think once he gets his confidence back by playing for a championship team where he can score for fun he will be able to make the step up. He has the ability if he didn't we would have sold him when bournemouth came in for him like we did with schlupp. he would never agree to a loan to a lower league, and even if he did we would end up covering half his wages! he will either stay and be happy being used as an impact sub/cover or will be pushing for a move. If palace sell Zaha, i think he could well end up there and if they offered us anywhere north of £10M i would take it, providing we have enough in the kitty to splash out on a quality wide man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 4 hours ago, Fightforever said: Gray needs a loan I think his decison making is bad due to confidence issues. I think once he gets his confidence back by playing for a championship team where he can score for fun he will be able to make the step up. He has the ability if he didn't we would have sold him when bournemouth came in for him like we did with schlupp. I can lend him a tenner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc82 Posted 9 July 2020 Share Posted 9 July 2020 4 hours ago, Fightforever said: Gray needs a loan I think his decison making is bad due to confidence issues. I think once he gets his confidence back by playing for a championship team where he can score for fun he will be able to make the step up. He has the ability if he didn't we would have sold him when bournemouth came in for him like we did with schlupp. I think they should of sent him out on loan a couple of years ago. He will probably end up moving on permanently at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 11 July 2020 Share Posted 11 July 2020 Made me chuckle.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsell1976 Posted 11 July 2020 Share Posted 11 July 2020 What gray needs is a drop down championship, get a game every week as his career has stalled here, as he needed to play 90 minutes in the important part of his development. If we are all honest gray has been given enough chances here, under numerous managers, and he’s just not for filling his early promise, he needs to move and rebuild his career, as we need quality not quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 11 July 2020 Share Posted 11 July 2020 Definitely a player in there, somewhere. Sometimes he looks brilliant when running with the ball. Sometimes just a bit meh. Frustrating but still time to make a good career somewhere, sadly probably not with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 11 July 2020 Share Posted 11 July 2020 He’s been here a while now under several managers and hasn’t really improved . But and it’s a big but since lockdown and to give him his due he’s looked like he’s Starting to cause problems coming off the bench . The question is, is it too little to late . The lads still only 24 we got him pretty cheap .I wouldn’t have him as a starter but sub or cup games maybe . I’d be tempted to give him another 6 months to a year then go from there it seems stupid to get rid when he just started to look a little better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post honeybradger Posted 16 July 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 16 July 2020 (edited) I dont care how little people rate him on here, his super sub appearances apart from the Norwich game have had a massive impact on our season. Edited 16 July 2020 by honeybradger 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemunky Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 2 minutes ago, honeybradger said: I dont care how little people rate him on here, his super sub appearances apart from the Norwich game have been great this season. Plays well as a sub. Just don't start him next match 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 1 minute ago, spacemunky said: Plays well as a sub. Just don't start him next match Im in the same boat but just thought he needed some recognition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 Took all of the stress and nerves away. Good lad Gray! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Katy Posted 16 July 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 16 July 2020 Dimi did in 2 minutes what Barnes couldn’t do for most of the game. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 Knew this thread would get bumped cos he scored. If Barnes had Gray's finishing he'd be quite some player. Gray himself - does some things well but on the whole a Championship level player let's call it how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 13 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Knew this thread would get bumped cos he scored. If Barnes had Gray's finishing he'd be quite some player. Gray himself - does some things well but on the whole a Championship level player let's call it how it is. Championship player who has 2 goals 3 assists (4 if you count the cross against burnley that nicked barnes on the way) in 500 PL minutes. Lay off him he's clearly got quality but it's been hard for him as a young player who's had half the club's fanbase on him for the last 4 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 20 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Knew this thread would get bumped cos he scored. If Barnes had Gray's finishing he'd be quite some player. Gray himself - does some things well but on the whole a Championship level player let's call it how it is. Gray's finishing? It's not always the best... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejammy Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 19 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Knew this thread would get bumped cos he scored. If Barnes had Gray's finishing he'd be quite some player. Gray himself - does some things well but on the whole a Championship level player let's call it how it is. Lol I don't understand this. Gray comes on and does what we're shouting for Barnes to do but somehow someone begrudges Gray but praises golden boy Barnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg_fried_rice Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 Credit where it's due. Made an impact and sealed the game for us. It's in those positions he's faltered previously, but he showed his value today. I just can't see him developing any sort of consistency, but I'd be delighted to eat my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, hejammy said: Lol I don't understand this. Gray comes on and does what we're shouting for Barnes to do but somehow someone begrudges Gray but praises golden boy Barnes. He just can't win I tells ya. In the match thread people were criticising his first touch after the goal. (Which wasn't perfect I admit - but there's a time and a place ffs) Edited 16 July 2020 by trabuch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 I've been impressed with him since the restart. Fair play Dimi, he has made an impact every game he has been brought on. Well done lad 👏👏👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglodanglo Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 Loan to Villa for next season. He lives local and would do well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody2028 Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 Been excellent since the league restarted to be fair. Was never a fan but has had some decent performances of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 16 July 2020 Share Posted 16 July 2020 It would be good if he could use his pace more. Some very good coaches have not helped him develop as he might have. I still want him to become wonderful player but it's hard to see. Did well today. When he put on the burners and won an Impossible ball, it was a good moment. His goal was a better moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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