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Caglar Soyuncu emerges as new cult hero at Leicester City

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I don't expect us to sell Soyuncu any time soon but how on earth would we value him?

 

We know that £50m gets you a decent, experienced and reliable PL CB such as Dunk or Tarkowski.  Soyuncu has played less than a dozen PL games but has impressed, he's only 22 and has a much higher ceiling than those two.

 

£70m? 

 

It wouldn't be worth it even at that price as we'd end up with a lesser CB and £20m change which doesn't go far these days.

 

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2 hours ago, Eamonn said:

Its here too ... https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1182539/Man-City-transfer-news-Caglar-Soyuncu-Pep-Guardiola-Aymeric-Laporte-Stones-injuries-MCFC

 

...i hear Richard Keogh needs a new club, maybe they should sign him.

The bit I like from article is this:

"Soyuncu is said to be set on staying with Leicester until at least the end of the season due to the fact he is enjoying his football and the love he is receiving from supporters"

 

Which just goes to show how a bit of backing from the terraces can do wonders for a players loyalty (and confidence).

I know we all have our favourites and scapegoats, but contrast this to the treatment some others get. I get that this lad has shown us that he is indeed a great player but sometimes this takes time to build the confidence etc. If he had not started well, I suspect that instead of the adoration he is now getting he would have got a bit of stick and then probably would not even had dared to attempt some of the stuff is now doing.

 

If he continues to develop and carries on putting opposition forwards on their arses with his Cruyff turns and little dinks then he is going to be one of the best centre backs around. He signed on a five year deal last summer, but we should be reviewing that very soon I think and doing everything in our power to ensure that we keep him

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Carl the Llama

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4 hours ago, murphy said:

I don't expect us to sell Soyuncu any time soon but how on earth would we value him?

 

We know that £50m gets you a decent, experienced and reliable PL CB such as Dunk or Tarkowski.  Soyuncu has played less than a dozen PL games but has impressed, he's only 22 and has a much higher ceiling than those two.

 

£70m? 

 

It wouldn't be worth it even at that price as we'd end up with a lesser CB and £20m change which doesn't go far these days.

 

No it doesn't.  It only costs that much if you've just sold your 3rd best CB for £80m.  Neither player will go for anywhere near that if anybody else seriously comes in for them.

 

Either way it's irrelevant because we're not talking about a 'decent' PL CB, we're talking about a future Ballon d'Or winning CB so we're going to want to smash the previous record.  £150m if they bid in the first 2 weeks of the window with the asking price increasing by £10m every week thereafter.

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Time for us to lay it down. We arent going to be a selling club otherwise we will never progress.

 

£150 mill minimum in january or feck off.

 

 

He isnt worth half that that but we cant be asset stripped of two of our key defenders in months.  Might aswell just give up and start next year in championship

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We need to be the club players want to stay at and come to. Young players know that they will get a chance with Brendan so that makes us a target club for young ambitious players. To keep and attract the more established players we will have to offer European Football & cup runs. Maddison is not going to Man U when he is the top dog here & playing in Europe.

I think we are on the right track to succeed with a lot of the pieces to the puzzle in place. Maddison,Soyuncu & Ndidi etc will see this as well.

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Contract expires in 2023. If he keeps up his current form then he should get a raise and an extension at the end of the season.

We should also tack on an eye watering release clause to go with that. We deserve the benefit of our ability to scout and develop talent. Don't forget the sell on fee.:twitch:

I really don't want to sell him. I'd miss his awesome hair and stylish Cruyff turns. He's really is something special.

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4 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

Yes Pep, that's right, more than Maguire... Pep there is no point crying, we simply don't need to sell... If you don't have a massive wodge of petrodollar to spend don't even bother calling again mate, we're not f***ing Tesco's.

 

 

And don’t bother with that cringey matey stuff after we play you , that “ you’ll be my player soon  kiss kiss” huggy Shtick 

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11 hours ago, gurru991 said:

We need to be the club players want to stay at and come to. Young players know that they will get a chance with Brendan so that makes us a target club for young ambitious players. To keep and attract the more established players we will have to offer European Football & cup runs. Maddison is not going to Man U when he is the top dog here & playing in Europe.

I think we are on the right track to succeed with a lot of the pieces to the puzzle in place. Maddison,Soyuncu & Ndidi etc will see this as well.

Love to think our players would see through this, but money and having a 'big club' on your CV seems to turn heads very quickly.

 

Even with us winning the P/L Kante cleared off as soon as an offer came in from a 'big club', and they didn't even qualify for the P/L that season, and Vardy could well have too if Arsenal had guaranteed him a regular starting slot. 

 

Maguire has swapped an ambitious, forward thinking club, for a club with inferior players and an out of his depth manager who will be lucky to see the season through. Maguire was top dog here too, but is now just another player in the worst ever Man Utd P/L team. Drinkwater did the same and he's now on loan at Burnley. There are countless examples of players at decent clubs swapping them for big money moves to 'big clubs' then fading into oblivion. 

 

If players think the grass is greener, or want to leave, just let them go. Because if you don't you end up with what Spuds are going through. A bunch of unsettled players and poor team spirit.

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3 hours ago, ThaiFox said:

Love to think our players would see through this, but money and having a 'big club' on your CV seems to turn heads very quickly.

 

Even with us winning the P/L Kante cleared off as soon as an offer came in from a 'big club', and they didn't even qualify for the P/L that season, and Vardy could well have too if Arsenal had guaranteed him a regular starting slot. 

 

Maguire has swapped an ambitious, forward thinking club, for an absolute shittone of money.

 

If players think the grass is greener, or want to leave, just let them go. Because if you don't you end up with what Spuds are going through. A bunch of unsettled players and poor team spirit.

 

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On 25/09/2019 at 15:15, lfu said:

I still hear a lot of 'Kaglar', so I spent far too long making a video compilation showing how his name should be pronounced. Feel free to share :)

If you still couldn't get it, here is the breakdown of his name.

 

Çağ-lar Sö-yün-cü  

 

First name has two and last name has three syllabuses.

First syllabus: "Ça" is pronounced "Cha" as in betcha, getcha, dontcha, to which you also add a soft ğ which is likened to the sound of "gh" in weight, light. So the first syllabus would be pronounced as "Chagh"

 

Second syllabus:  "lar" is pronounced "lar" in the noun "lark" but you do pronounce a strong "r" as in American pronunciation. In other words, "r" is not silent.

So the first name would be pronounced as Chagh-lar.

 

Last name: The sound of "ö" would be "ir," as in sir...and "ur" as in surf, turf, turn, Kurt...and "ear" in earth. Thus, the first syllabus "Sö" sounds like "si" in Sir, or "su" in surf,  and no "r" or it's silent.

 

The sound of "ü" is like "eww," or the sound of "ü" in german words führen, führer, Schüler, über, stück, erfüllen. The turkish letter "c" sounds like "j" in jack, john, james, jacob. So, the last syllabus "cü" would be pronounced like "jew" short for jewish but "w" is silent.

 

Hence, the pronunciation of "Sö-yün-cü" would be  Si(r)-yewn-je(w). The letters r and w are silent. 

 

Lastly, try to say it quickly. In other words, you do not need to put much stress on each syllabus of the first name and the last name as if you are taking a quick pause after each syllabus like you'd be doing with your toddler when you try to teach them the words "ma-ma" or "pa-pa." It's not "pa-pa-raz-zi," but more like "paparazzi."

 

Hope it helps.

 

I am fluent in Turkish. 

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11 hours ago, TimT said:

If you still couldn't get it, here is the breakdown of his name.

 

Çağ-lar Sö-yün-cü  

 

First name has two and last name has three syllabuses.

First syllabus: "Ça" is pronounced "Cha" as in betcha, getcha, dontcha, to which you also add a soft ğ which is likened to the sound of "gh" in weight, light. So the first syllabus would be pronounced as "Chagh"

 

Second syllabus:  "lar" is pronounced "lar" in the noun "lark" but you do pronounce a strong "r" as in American pronunciation. In other words, "r" is not silent.

So the first name would be pronounced as Chagh-lar.

 

Last name: The sound of "ö" would be "ir," as in sir...and "ur" as in surf, turf, turn, Kurt...and "ear" in earth. Thus, the first syllabus "Sö" sounds like "si" in Sir, or "su" in surf,  and no "r" or it's silent.

 

The sound of "ü" is like "eww," or the sound of "ü" in german words führen, führer, Schüler, über, stück, erfüllen. The turkish letter "c" sounds like "j" in jack, john, james, jacob. So, the last syllabus "cü" would be pronounced like "jew" short for jewish but "w" is silent.

 

Hence, the pronunciation of "Sö-yün-cü" would be  Si(r)-yewn-je(w). The letters r and w are silent. 

 

Lastly, try to say it quickly. In other words, you do not need to put much stress on each syllabus of the first name and the last name as if you are taking a quick pause after each syllabus like you'd be doing with your toddler when you try to teach them the words "ma-ma" or "pa-pa." It's not "pa-pa-raz-zi," but more like "paparazzi."

 

Hope it helps.

 

I am fluent in Turkish. 

I'm trying very hard to read this but to my eyes it just looks like this:

 

fslskejrk sidhfkjhskd kjhsd  skdhfkjhs khsd kjskdh kjoqr  ushdf kuhiusf jusgdjfuyg kkjgd  gjdhfg hgd hgdf  dhgf hg dug dfhg  hgdf dug dfhg hd hd geo  kjef pdo

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42 minutes ago, Steven said:

It does have its uses then. :ph34r:

Yes, it certainly does. Even though this may be minuscule, it provides a good pay check as well if you are employed by MI5, SIS (also known as MI6), NCA, GHCQ. Also, there are plenty of other opportunities in multi-national corporations which trade with or operate or would like to expand to the Turkish speaking regions particularly if you get familiar with various Turkish dialects that are spoken in the former USSR, and also countries like Iraq, and Iran where quiet a sizable of the populations speak Turkish due to being conquered and ruled by the former Turkish empires. Of course, the most important thing in being fluent in Turkish is that you get to pronounce  Çağlar Söyüncü properly.

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