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From The Athletic:

 

The Premier League has secured a crucial agreement with leading broadcaster Sky Sports that means Premier League clubs will defer the payment of a collective rebate worth in excess of £170 million until the 2021-22 season.

Sky has broadcast the Premier League since its foundation in 1992 but the broadcaster has been badly affected by the coronavirus pandemic that has called a halt to all live sport on its platforms. As a result, Sky, BT Sport and the Premier League’s many international partners are claiming a collective £330 million rebate from Premier League clubs.

At the last meeting of Premier League clubs, the top-flight sides were informed they will lose a minimum of £330 million to broadcasters, even upon the completion of the season.

This is the bare minimum and it is on the proviso that the Premier League season restarts on June 12 and concludes by July 26. The Athletic can reveal that £223 million will be repaid to domestic broadcasters while £107 million will be handed out to international broadcast partners.

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2 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Why do Sky and BT get a refund when they're getting extra matches? Some are being shown for free, but they still get the advertising revenue. 

not sure. I guess they've had to refund subscribers for a few months so someone's gotta pay!

 

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1 minute ago, stripeyfox said:

not sure. I guess they've had to refund subscribers for a few months so someone's gotta pay!

 

I suppose. I can understand the foreign broadcasters because they get every game anyway. BT  aren't even showing their extra games for free. 

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Premier League: Clubs to meet to discuss premature finish options
By Dan Roan & Laura Scott

BBC Sport


Players began contact training in the past week as they continued preparing for the resumption of the Premier League on 17 June

 

Premier League clubs will have their most thorough discussion to date about what should happen if the season is curtailed at their latest meeting on Thursday.

All clubs will be given a say in a detailed debate over how to finalise the league table if the season cannot be completed, though it is widely expected that relegation will not be scrapped.

A fixture list for the first few rounds of the rebooted season are also due to be confirmed, along with kick-off times and broadcast plans, though it is understood there will be some leeway for clubs to offer feedback.

The opening two matches are due to be played on 17 June, with a full round of fixtures that weekend.


Matchday operations and return-to-play protocols will also be presented, with clubs told that breaches of the strict biosecurity requirements would incur sanctions.

The number of people allowed inside the stadium during a match will need to be limited to about 300, according to documents sent to clubs.

Premier League chief executive Richard Masters has told BBC Sport that the scrapping of relegation if the season has to be cancelled due to a second wave of coronavirus cases was "a significant topic" and would need to be debated by the clubs.


'We have to be flexible' - Premier League chief executive Richard Masters speaks to BBC sports editor Dan Roan
Some clubs are known to want relegation discarded this season. However, 14 clubs would need to back such a move for it to be adopted, and the Football Association has said it will oppose the idea. The governing body has a decisive 'golden share' in any vote.

Premier League bosses are desperate to complete the season by the end of next month to avoid the risk of increased rebate payments to broadcasters, and want to avoid any delays because of disagreements over curtailment.

A vote on the matter may not take place until a subsequent meeting.

 

After weeks of discussions around the proposal to use neutral venues, BBC Sport understands that virtually all of the remaining 92 matches will be played at home and away grounds.

 

But Premier League bosses will outline how they will need to identify pre-agreed neutral venues for each region as part of contingency planning in case of local spikes in coronavirus cases.

The use of neutral venues would require a rule change, so clubs will need to vote on this matter.

Various 'enhancements' to the broadcasting of matches are also due to be discussed at Thursday's meeting, including the possibility of camera access to dressing rooms, although that is understood to be unlikely.

 

The Premier League is expected to offer a centralised plan for including fans in some way.

European football clubs have used different methods to engage fans, with fans of Danish Superliga side AGF Aarhus appearing via video link on a virtual grandstand during last weekend's derby match against Randers.

Cardboard cut-outs of fans have also been considered by clubs, but the use of the existing big screens might prove the most feasible and least costly option.

 

The Premier League's plan to restart on 17 June received a boost on Wednesday, with just one positive test in the latest batch of testing.

The singular case, from 1,197 players and staff members tested, came from Tottenham.

But because of carefully planned drills and physio sessions being limited to 15-minute windows, it is not thought anyone else will need to isolate.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52913164

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52 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Wasn't the loan for the Seagrave trading complex secured against TV revenue? Could this leave a huge black hole in the clubs finances? 

I doubt it. Macquarie (sp) have given those loans to half the premier league. So it'll be in their interests to extend facilities until revenues are back to normal. 

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1 hour ago, Webbo said:

Why do Sky and BT get a refund when they're getting extra matches? Some are being shown for free, but they still get the advertising revenue. 

I saw this yesterday and don't understand either.

If the season is cancelled and matches not shown, refunds of tv revenue are understandable.

If the season restarts and more matches than scheduled are shown, why are clubs having to pay a refund. A refund of what exactly?

Assuming the season completes, clubs have completed their obligation and if more matches are shown there's an increase in advertising revenue surely?

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2 hours ago, stripeyfox said:

From The Athletic:

 

The Premier League has secured a crucial agreement with leading broadcaster Sky Sports that means Premier League clubs will defer the payment of a collective rebate worth in excess of £170 million until the 2021-22 season.

Sky has broadcast the Premier League since its foundation in 1992 but the broadcaster has been badly affected by the coronavirus pandemic that has called a halt to all live sport on its platforms. As a result, Sky, BT Sport and the Premier League’s many international partners are claiming a collective £330 million rebate from Premier League clubs.

At the last meeting of Premier League clubs, the top-flight sides were informed they will lose a minimum of £330 million to broadcasters, even upon the completion of the season.

This is the bare minimum and it is on the proviso that the Premier League season restarts on June 12 and concludes by July 26. The Athletic can reveal that £223 million will be repaid to domestic broadcasters while £107 million will be handed out to international broadcast partners.

I understood the Premier League gets all the money from each broadcaster at the start of the season and then pays it in instalments to the clubs which would mean its the Premier League which owe the money and not the clubs. Tell me if I'm wrong

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2 hours ago, FoyleFox said:

I saw this yesterday and don't understand either.

If the season is cancelled and matches not shown, refunds of tv revenue are understandable.

If the season restarts and more matches than scheduled are shown, why are clubs having to pay a refund. A refund of what exactly?

Assuming the season completes, clubs have completed their obligation and if more matches are shown there's an increase in advertising revenue surely?

I am guessing Sky and BT will be happily refunding a percentage of my Subs, if that is the case.:crylaugh:Its ok I will defer it until the 20/21 season because I am good like that! 

 

If they can claim some kind of contract has been broken or whatever, or the product diminished etc; whatever crap excuse they are coming up with then surely we can too on subscription reclaim? 

 

I would imagine that the ad revenue on picktv or whatever crap channel they are using to show the free games will bring in record levels of advertising revenue, lets face it millions are not going to watch Pick on a normal day. Though knowing Sky I assume all the decent games will be on the subscription channels.  

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7 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Though knowing Sky I assume all the decent games will be on the subscription channels.  

I've got "Main Event" at home through BT and I'm fully expecting one of our games to be broadcast on one of their channels I don't have 

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26 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I am guessing Sky and BT will be happily refunding a percentage of my Subs, if that is the case.:crylaugh:Its ok I will defer it until the 20/21 season because I am good like that! 

 

If they can claim some kind of contract has been broken or whatever, or the product diminished etc; whatever crap excuse they are coming up with then surely we can too on subscription reclaim? 

 

I would imagine that the ad revenue on picktv or whatever crap channel they are using to show the free games will bring in record levels of advertising revenue, lets face it millions are not going to watch Pick on a normal day. Though knowing Sky I assume all the decent games will be on the subscription channels.  

The Athletic published a story on this pay back and our exact queries were raised. Apparently, according to Adam of The Athletic, it's due to not receiving what they paid for on time, plus a changed product.

Still don't accept that makes sense.

 

We haven't paid for Sky sports for 3 months so our subscription has been adjusted to be fair.

 

I've no issue with the better games being on pay channels, it's fair to those paying for them. Expect LCFC v MUTD on Sky Sport 1 and Bournemouth v Burnley on freeview.

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