Brendan Rodgers

[Blue ROI]

Just now, sacreblueits442 said:

...top six is now the minimum!!!

 We are not going to start downplaying our club for the sake of a European excursion.

 This club needs to focus on making the top 4, we start aiming low and that's where we are going to end up.

Group stages of the Europa League and a 12th place finish incoming.

 

At least we'll have a shiny notepad and pen.

[Chrysalis]

18 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

You can't sack him.  Not now, not with that contract.

 

But the question is, what do you do if the first half of next season is progressing like the second half of this one?  Rodgers' track record is clear - he's never been able to turn it around once things started to go off the rails for an extended period.

It would be gardening leave if the club feels they need to replace him after a bad start.

 

Gardening leave means he just gets paid as normal until he finds a new job or contract expires.  Avoids the need for lump sum compensation.

Edited 27 July 2020 by Chrysalis

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

It would be gardening leave if the club feels they need to replace him after a bad start.

 

Gardening leave means he just gets paid as normal until he finds a new job or contract expires.  Avoids the need for lump sum compensation.

he would be entitled to be paid what we owe him .....he could decide to just sit and do nothing for two years, collecting his wages.  the likelihood is that he would do a deal with us, allowing him to take another job in time, but it would certainly cost us a lot of money. 

 

I would be very surprised if he isn’t our manager a year from now .....

[Bourbon Fox]

4 hours ago, Steve Earle said:

I agree with @Corky that the Europa League will be massive for the club/Brendan, but not what he or we should be judged by.

 

We should aim to improve year on year, so for me the targets next season are: more than 62 points and a cup final, while getting out of the group stages in Europe.

What?! Can't you see that's reasonable? 

That kind of talk won't wash here

 

CL qualification and a domestic cup or I'll be raging

[Sly]

25/1 to be the next Barcelona Manager.

 

I think it was Tim Sherwood that stated he’d manage them or Real Madrid hadn’t slipped over. 

[Guest An Sionnach]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

25/1 to be the next Barcelona Manager.

 

I think it was Tim Sherwood that stated he’d manage them or Real Madrid hadn’t slipped over. 

Just keeping the seat warm for Xavi so what would be the point.

[dayday]

For one that is always in the spotlight, he has gone very eerily quiet at the moment.

 

 

[Lambert09]

I do think Brendan is a really good manager. But I just can’t warm to him as a person at all. His utter arrogance drives me crazy, which coincidentally is his downfall as a manager.

 

If he was a bit more humble and accepted his mistakes and tried to improve on them, he would genuinely be one of the best in the game. 

 

I really see so many similarities with Puel. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

Jesus Christ, just reading through this thread and it's reminded me how utterly awful we were for the last 15 or so games of the season. Hopefully our form doesn't carry on into the new season and I would like a slight change in mentality from Rodgers, we shouldn't be happy and content with where we are, we should always be striving and pushing to obtain more points than the previous season. According to all the Celtic fans, he didn't set them up favourably in European cup ties either, so I'm eager to see how we get on in our first one.

[l444ry]

12 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Jesus Christ, just reading through this thread and it's reminded me how utterly awful we were for the last 15 or so games of the season. Hopefully our form doesn't carry on into the new season and I would like a slight change in mentality from Rodgers, we shouldn't be happy and content with where we are, we should always be striving and pushing to obtain more points than the previous season. According to all the Celtic fans, he didn't set them up favourably in European cup ties either, so I'm eager to see how we get on in our first one.

Think Celtic's problem with lack of progress in Europe is more to do with the quality of players they have than Rodgers or more recently Lennon.  

[winteriscoming]

What worries me is that form normally carries on to the following season. Good or bad. Reminds me of when we stopped up and carried on with that form with the title winning season. Looking at our fixtures we really need to get off to a decent start. I just don’t see Rodgers lasting the season. Hope I’m wrong. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

1 hour ago, l444ry said:

Think Celtic's problem with lack of progress in Europe is more to do with the quality of players they have than Rodgers or more recently Lennon.  

Oh that definitely plays a part don't get me wrong, but a couple of Celtic lads told me he used to stick square pegs in round holes and then would never admit he got the personnel or formation wrong.

Edited 3 September 2020 by Leicester_Loyal

[Muzzy_Larsson]

1 hour ago, l444ry said:

Think Celtic's problem with lack of progress in Europe is more to do with the quality of players they have than Rodgers or more recently Lennon.  

It wasn't really, we suffered our record home and away defeats under Rodgers. We've had our poor moments across several managers but each manager has hod notable results to point to in Europe, memorable ones, beating Barcelona under Lennon first time around, beating Man Utd and AC Milan with Strachan and more than I care to mention under O'Neill. Our first game under Rodgers in Europe was great, a 3-3 draw with Man City where we played excellent and then after that as good as it got was meh with a few absolute hammerings in between. He set us up shambolicly in Europe, constantly said our approach was to play "without fear" which meant matching up to the likes of PSG and Barcelona and try and beat them at their own game. I'll never forget us trying to pass through PSG's press of Neymar, Mbappe and Cavani in our own box over in Paris and getting utterly humped 7-1. His approach and record in Europe was the polar opposite to how successful he was with us domestically. He was a shambles in Europe with Liverpool also. He's too arrogant and/or naive and won't cater whatsoever for the opposition, thinks he can play his way or it's the highway and it doesn't work in Europe as you have to adapt and vary your approach based on opposition, home/away, etc.

[sdb]

I think he cares more about himself than the club, which I guess is common in all walks of life. It just usually isn't as obvious. 

 

I don't know why, but my gut feeling is we've massively peaked with him and he won't be around for that long.

Edited 3 September 2020 by sdb

[Koke]

Rodgers produced some truly embarrassing results in Eurooe. His European record is awful. I genuinely believe if we made it to CL we would get humiliated 6-0 and 7-0 by PSG/Bayern/Liverpool like Celtic did (notwithstanding the quality of players we have compared to Celtic). If we get a semi difficult Europa League group I wouldn't be surprised if we took a massive L and finished 3rd. 

 

Rodgers is a decent manager but he is overrated and definitely overpaid.

[sacreblueits442]

4 hours ago, l444ry said:

Think Celtic's problem with lack of progress in Europe is more to do with the quality of players they have than Rodgers or more recently Lennon.  

...just by looking at the Celtic Roster, even prior to Tierney going to Arsenal they have good players!!!

It is hard to get to the level you need, to compete in Europe, when week in and week out you are not meeting that quality of teams, and tactically is where both managers fall short. 

[l444ry]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...just by looking at the Celtic Roster, even prior to Tierney going to Arsenal they have good players!!!

It is hard to get to the level you need, to compete in Europe, when week in and week out you are not meeting that quality of teams, and tactically is where both managers fall short. 

Agree with that. Think Celtic are kidding themselves and hold a grudge against Rodgers these days. Aside from King Martin O'Neill years they've been consistently poor/average in Europe every year.   

Edited 3 September 2020 by l444ry

[jerry]

5 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

What worries me is that form normally carries on to the following season. Good or bad. Reminds me of when we stopped up and carried on with that form with the title winning season. Looking at our fixtures we really need to get off to a decent start. I just don’t see Rodgers lasting the season. Hope I’m wrong. 

Not lasting the season ? A manager of his pedigree at a middling club , who would you expect to take over - an other Dave Basset ?

[fuchsntf]

On 27/07/2020 at 23:22, Bourbon Fox said:

What?! Can't you see that's reasonable? 

That kind of talk won't wash here

 

CL qualification and a domestic cup or I'll be raging

How can you get so drunk in Bourbon..??

Edited 3 September 2020 by fuchsntf

[Foxxed]

I understand the worry and I can’t say I don’t share one or two. But to put things in to perspective, we’ve achieved our second greatest finish of the modern era, achieved European football and only six months ago posters were honestly claiming to enjoy both the team and the results more than in our premier league win. Things can change quickly. Turning against him before a ball has been kicked this season doesn’t seem productive for the team, the players or the club.

[jeffschlupp]

I think the Castagne signing should relax a lot of people with regard to the rumours of disagreements between manager and board. We know Castagne is a long-time Congerton and Rodgers target and to back them by delivering him is a huge vote of confidence. That doesn't necessarily mean BR is the right man in the long-term because I don't think we work in that sense at the moment.

 

The people bashing Rodgers are the same ones that bashed Puel, they don't understand that each manager is/was perfect for where we were and where we want to go. There was a time we outgrew Pearson, a time we outgrew Ranieri. Puel made the transition from hoofball team to modern day top half possession side; but did so at the cost of losing dressing room support by binning off past-it favourites, and getting average short term results. Rodgers has added the latest footballing trends - a high pressing front three and playing out from the back - while bringing senior players back on side and bringing on the group of excellent young players we have into a more coherent setup.

 

His results were initially good but time will tell if they return to similarly satisfactory levels. I'm now convinced we may need another step up in the next 12-18 months, a manager with a decorated CV, a winner who can bury the weak mentalities of a few of this bunch. Someone like Ancelotti or Benitez will probably need to be our next move.

[Dr The Singh]

He's B-Tech

[winteriscoming]

36 minutes ago, jerry said:

Not lasting the season ? A manager of his pedigree at a middling club , who would you expect to take over - an other Dave Basset ?

You say his pedigree tell me what he’s won other than being at Celtic. Imo he’s overrated. Clueless on a bad run. Lots of better managers out there. Cost us too much to get rid of him. Just think we’re destined for a bottom half finish with him. 

[Gazza M]

Time will tell. He needs to turn a corner and beating the Baggies and Burnley would be the perfect tonic. 

[turtmcfly]

5 hours ago, Koke said:

Rodgers produced some truly embarrassing results in Eurooe. His European record is awful. I genuinely believe if we made it to CL we would get humiliated 6-0 and 7-0 by PSG/Bayern/Liverpool like Celtic did (notwithstanding the quality of players we have compared to Celtic). If we get a semi difficult Europa League group I wouldn't be surprised if we took a massive L and finished 3rd. 

 

Rodgers is a decent manager but he is overrated and definitely overpaid.

 

A trifling irrelevance.